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# Setlle an argument.
Ok, backstory:

I bought this bus pass last tuesday morning, and it claims to be valid for 7 days travel.

Why then, does this and all other tickets i've had, instead show this:



Here's the argument / debate i've been having:
(My argument) It's bad grammar - midnight on monday would be 00:00 Monday morning, therefore meaning the ticket was only valid for 6 days(ish).

(My mothers argument) Monday doesn't start at midnight - it starts at one nanosecond past midnight and ends at exactly midnight - so therefore the ticket is right.

Anyone?
(, Mon 3 Sep 2007, 22:14, archived)
# it should last til the VERY SECOND, 7 days later imo.
(, Mon 3 Sep 2007, 22:16, archived)
# Yeah
In an ideal world, heh.
(, Mon 3 Sep 2007, 22:17, archived)
# OH GOD, THE MINUTIAE.
sorry, i'm too tired to work my brain up to answer this one.
(, Mon 3 Sep 2007, 22:17, archived)
# ^this
and how much beer has he had to not understand a simple ticket
(, Mon 3 Sep 2007, 22:18, archived)
# "midnight" is generally considered to be at the end of the day, 00:00 is generally considered to be at the beginning
EVEN THOUGH they are in fact the same instant, they fall in different days
(, Mon 3 Sep 2007, 22:17, archived)
# Wales?
Yeah, I figured.
(, Mon 3 Sep 2007, 22:17, archived)
# Nope
Worse still. Lancashire :/
(, Mon 3 Sep 2007, 22:18, archived)
# Heh
In that case I'd settle for whichever interpretation made the week shorter.
(, Mon 3 Sep 2007, 22:20, archived)
# Oi! I'm in Lancashire
I grace the county with my beauty and poise :P
(, Mon 3 Sep 2007, 22:31, archived)
# i had the same dilemma
as the megarider ticket thing i bought said valid until the 3rd. i took a risk and it was valid today.

/dull story
(, Mon 3 Sep 2007, 22:18, archived)
# Dull argument tbh
But when you work as a web programmer they tend to grab hold of your mind after a days work *sigh* heh.
(, Mon 3 Sep 2007, 22:20, archived)
# Scan, change date, print
4. profit
(, Mon 3 Sep 2007, 22:18, archived)
# 5.
go to jail
(, Mon 3 Sep 2007, 22:21, archived)
# 6. Get out of jail free card
(, Mon 3 Sep 2007, 22:27, archived)
# 7. Buy
Fleet Street
(, Mon 3 Sep 2007, 22:31, archived)
# Your Mother!
is right...

Midnight on Monday is the end of Monday.

ALSO: Why am I looking at your ticket?
(, Mon 3 Sep 2007, 22:21, archived)
# What happens if you get on the bus at 11.50pm
But you journey will take 30 minites...do they kick you off 1 third of the way there..???
(, Mon 3 Sep 2007, 22:22, archived)
# Around here
The town goes to bed about 10pm, and the busses are tucked up for the night by 11:40pm (no lie).
(, Mon 3 Sep 2007, 22:26, archived)
# the ONLY thing I like about trains
a day return is pretty much valid until 6am the next morning.
or it is at least on the transpennine line.

EDIT: ooh heck, more motels to add
*ponders bed or ftp*
(, Mon 3 Sep 2007, 22:26, archived)
# i wouldnt put it past first(last) buses
(, Mon 3 Sep 2007, 22:26, archived)
# Your example supposes that the rate of travel is constant
whereas it may be that, for instance, you travel 3/4 of the distance in the first 10 minutes. HA.

Edit: HA. HA HA HA. HAHAHAH HA.
(, Mon 3 Sep 2007, 22:26, archived)
# ha
i tried to type exactly that but got confused.
(, Mon 3 Sep 2007, 22:27, archived)
# I thought of a valid argument against that.....
Then forgot what it was .....then realised that that you are perfectly right ...!!!... call you mr. Spock from now on we will..!!
(, Mon 3 Sep 2007, 22:34, archived)
# Quick!
That ticket is still valid for another hour and a half - go somewhere!
(, Mon 3 Sep 2007, 22:27, archived)
# your argument doesnt exsist!
grammar is merely syntax and pragmatics! (amongst others)
(, Mon 3 Sep 2007, 22:27, archived)
# Your vagina is wobbling.
(, Mon 3 Sep 2007, 22:28, archived)
# why not try the new JML vagina suspension? ONLY £9.99!!!
(, Mon 3 Sep 2007, 22:31, archived)
# Free at any Robert Dyer,
(, Mon 3 Sep 2007, 22:41, archived)