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"Err... well... Palin... she's a bit crazy..."
Am I getting old and jaded when I can't just say "You know that Obama, I quite like him I do"
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Tue 4 Nov 2008, 22:41,
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Am I getting old and jaded when I can't just say "You know that Obama, I quite like him I do"

In my youth, only honest, local foods like pies and biscuits stood for election - now there's all sorts! Paella, curries, even noodles! Noodles in our halls of government?! What is the world coming to!?
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Tue 4 Nov 2008, 22:47,
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I also think he will herald in a new era of slightly reduced US political arrogance, and increased willingness to discuss, and increased willingness to try to genuinely understand and incorporate conflicting viewpoints on the international stage. I also think knee-jerk anti-abortionists are mental cunts.
I very much hope Obama will win.
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Tue 4 Nov 2008, 22:45,
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I very much hope Obama will win.

and outlining the reasons why I like him.
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Tue 4 Nov 2008, 22:47,
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The beers are saved for our 3am election party. Complete with Sarah Palin pinata.
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Tue 4 Nov 2008, 22:51,
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I'm just mad fucking excited. And I have a lot of American friends an extended family.
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Tue 4 Nov 2008, 22:54,
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balanced on elephants, celebrating furiously :)
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Tue 4 Nov 2008, 22:48,
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But seriously, McCain was fairly reasonable as the Republican mind set goes, despite his Beach Boy "Bomb bomb Iran" antics; more or less telling the hard right to fuck off when his "conservative credentials" were called into question
but then he selects a right-wing religious red neck as Pallin as his running mate, extreme failure
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Tue 4 Nov 2008, 22:59,
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but then he selects a right-wing religious red neck as Pallin as his running mate, extreme failure

also i very much share your view of the barking mad palin woman, she may be good at running her local council, but the free world, no thank you very much.
and with that me and my ignorance of the classics
are off to bed.
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Tue 4 Nov 2008, 23:04,
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and with that me and my ignorance of the classics
are off to bed.

Obama is extremely dangerous for numerous reasons.
He wants 'national service'.
He wants MORE troops in Aghanistan.
His chief political advisor is Zbigniew Brzezinski. Who's son advises McCain.
He still won't supply his original birth certificate.
He's received FOUR times the amount of corporate contribution than any other candidate. A large portion from Goldman Sachs.
His record while in the senate proves he did NOTHING.
His ties with Bill Ayers, Saul Alinsky and Raila Odinga.
Plus his proposal for the new 'carbon tax' which will cripple the US economy..more so.
Also, it's more than likely that he was born in Kenya, which represents a 'constitutional crisis'.
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Tue 4 Nov 2008, 23:01,
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He wants 'national service'.
He wants MORE troops in Aghanistan.
His chief political advisor is Zbigniew Brzezinski. Who's son advises McCain.
He still won't supply his original birth certificate.
He's received FOUR times the amount of corporate contribution than any other candidate. A large portion from Goldman Sachs.
His record while in the senate proves he did NOTHING.
His ties with Bill Ayers, Saul Alinsky and Raila Odinga.
Plus his proposal for the new 'carbon tax' which will cripple the US economy..more so.
Also, it's more than likely that he was born in Kenya, which represents a 'constitutional crisis'.

and are aged about fifteen at a guess
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Tue 4 Nov 2008, 23:03,
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For what? Do you sincerely think you are some herald or spokesman of the truth?
You are pathetic beyond belief
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Tue 4 Nov 2008, 23:11,
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You are pathetic beyond belief

you are all that is pathetic and fucking wrong about this place encapsulated in the sorry shell of a prat
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Tue 4 Nov 2008, 23:33,
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Which proves my point that he is EXACTLY the same as what has gone before.
I predict that he will be THE most hated president in history.
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Tue 4 Nov 2008, 23:09,
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I predict that he will be THE most hated president in history.

but where does this, "Also, it's more than likely that he was born in Kenya, which represents a 'constitutional crisis'." come from? Why is he more than likely born in Kenya?
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Tue 4 Nov 2008, 23:13,
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So he has ancestry in another country and that makes him of that country?
In that case, I am a Huguenot French man, because I have ancestry there? Despite the fact that I am an Irish Catholic?
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Wed 5 Nov 2008, 0:11,
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In that case, I am a Huguenot French man, because I have ancestry there? Despite the fact that I am an Irish Catholic?

i'm even wearing a sticker that says "I Voted!"
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Tue 4 Nov 2008, 23:11,
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also, i'm still a little confused that it seems to matter an awful lot if a US politician fought in a war that the yanks lost or at least didn't win much, all i ever hear is war vet this war vet that, or maybe it's about saving animals and i'm missing the point.
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Tue 4 Nov 2008, 22:46,
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we live in hope that if he does get in american politics really won't have much of an impact on us, at least negatively.i think that's something i picked up from his campaign.
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Tue 4 Nov 2008, 22:53,
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I appreciate people feel better if the person giving the orders has some insight into service life, but why doesn't this reach to other walks of life? Why is a candidate not talked down on education for not having been a teacher, or their healthcare ideas rubbished for not having worked in a hospital? Is the military really the single most important thing?
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Tue 4 Nov 2008, 22:50,
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Having willingly done, or been forced/pressured into doing, a dangerous job for a few years doesn't make you smarter or a stronger leader. In fact, I'd argue potentially quite the opposite.
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Tue 4 Nov 2008, 22:52,
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when the royals do the military thing. I can't really put my finger on why. Maybe it's because they don't have anything to prove or earn by it?
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Tue 4 Nov 2008, 22:59,
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The President of the United States also carries that title and responsibility. As someone who has been fired at (and shackled by UN rule of engagement), led troops in combat and had to endure the crucible of the military, it means quite a bit to me.
However, it goes beyond simply 'character.' It drills down into the true patriotism of the candidate. Having felt called to serve my Nation since I was a little guy, I served this Nation, in, I feel (as do many others) the most intimate way possible: I offered to expose myself to possible death in order to protect and serve this Nation.
I am incredibly proud of my Service to this Nation. And when I see a man who has Served, been under fire AND emerged with the respect and admiration of his fellow soldiers/sailors/airmen and Marines, I know a great deal more about him, strictly by that similar shared experience.
THAT is what is important about McCain having served our Nation. Well, I say "Our" when in actuality I mean "My" because most of you dont live in this country.
Cheers.
Citadel
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Wed 5 Nov 2008, 3:27,
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However, it goes beyond simply 'character.' It drills down into the true patriotism of the candidate. Having felt called to serve my Nation since I was a little guy, I served this Nation, in, I feel (as do many others) the most intimate way possible: I offered to expose myself to possible death in order to protect and serve this Nation.
I am incredibly proud of my Service to this Nation. And when I see a man who has Served, been under fire AND emerged with the respect and admiration of his fellow soldiers/sailors/airmen and Marines, I know a great deal more about him, strictly by that similar shared experience.
THAT is what is important about McCain having served our Nation. Well, I say "Our" when in actuality I mean "My" because most of you dont live in this country.
Cheers.
Citadel

Also the POTUS is the Commander-In-Chief, so psychologically to voters he (or she :) is in charge of the armed forces. Maybe.
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Tue 4 Nov 2008, 22:53,
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and i believe prince charles marched up and down a bit in a uniform.
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Tue 4 Nov 2008, 22:59,
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If you're in the direct line to the throne.
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Tue 4 Nov 2008, 23:08,
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Next time we go to war, I want Harry at the very front, on a horse waving a sword. Maybe he'll die, but that's what Princes are for.
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Tue 4 Nov 2008, 23:15,
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he graduated near the bottom of his class at Annapolis (and if his father and grandfather weren't both admirals he would have been booted out for cause,) he was not a good officer in the Navy - known as a "hot-head troublemaker." He went on an unauthorized mission over Hanoi and was shot down. So he got lucky by being pulled out of the wreck and not drowned and became a POW. He soon was telling important details about his ship, his mission, etc. without even being tortured - his nickname was "Songbird." Because he was the son and grandson of famous admirals he was treated better than other POWs at the time. Other POWs who were there with him have said he is not qualified to be president just because he was a POW.
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Tue 4 Nov 2008, 23:40,
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Still, as long as he wins tonight, I'll be incredibly happy.
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Tue 4 Nov 2008, 22:42,
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But at least tomorrow I'll wake up optimistic, and so will millions (hell, the majority, if the voting system is worth shit) of others.
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Tue 4 Nov 2008, 22:49,
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"Proving" ones credentials by voting for a token black man doesn't wash that away.
Obama has 147 days experience, an empty record and dodgy allegiances. He has made a tonne of gaffes and has elastic, vaguely socialist policies.
If he was white he wouldn't have got near the the Democratic nomination...but rich white liberal racists NEED to assuage their guilt.
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Tue 4 Nov 2008, 22:51,
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"Proving" ones credentials by voting for a token black man doesn't wash that away.
Obama has 147 days experience, an empty record and dodgy allegiances. He has made a tonne of gaffes and has elastic, vaguely socialist policies.
If he was white he wouldn't have got near the the Democratic nomination...but rich white liberal racists NEED to assuage their guilt.
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I'm sorry for being so sceptical.
I remember the 70's.
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Tue 4 Nov 2008, 22:59,
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I'm sorry for being so sceptical.
I remember the 70's.
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at least obama is a senator,she's the mayor of wasilla,alaska ffs!
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Tue 4 Nov 2008, 22:59,
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Obama's shortcomings aren't erased by hers
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Tue 4 Nov 2008, 23:05,
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Genuine question, I'm not just being a bitch. I really, honestly, truly don't care what colour he is. At all. (Although I *do* think it's about time that someone other than the rich, white, racist demographic you mention gets a shot, so in that sense I'm perfectly happy that he's so close.)
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Tue 4 Nov 2008, 22:59,
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It's like Louis Hamilton - about his ability.
I don't think many people vote for Obama for his ability or his policy. They vote because they don't like Palin or Bush.
Either way - my comments were about the people who nominated him over Hillary (and are now voting for him) SIMPLY BECAUSE he is black.
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Tue 4 Nov 2008, 23:10,
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I don't think many people vote for Obama for his ability or his policy. They vote because they don't like Palin or Bush.
Either way - my comments were about the people who nominated him over Hillary (and are now voting for him) SIMPLY BECAUSE he is black.

don't entirely get what else you are on about
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Tue 4 Nov 2008, 23:01,
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What I'm on about is the cold hypocrisy of politics of convenience.
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Further reading on the subject of the symbiosis between white liberals and black politicians:
Shelby Steele's "White Guilt: How Blacks and Whites Together Destroyed the Promise of the Civil Rights Era."
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Tue 4 Nov 2008, 23:12,
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What I'm on about is the cold hypocrisy of politics of convenience.
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Further reading on the subject of the symbiosis between white liberals and black politicians:
Shelby Steele's "White Guilt: How Blacks and Whites Together Destroyed the Promise of the Civil Rights Era."
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I'm not buying it. But I realise you're not exactly selling, so I think we can agree to disagree. :)
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Tue 4 Nov 2008, 23:25,
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democracy seems to be a good angle, despite the rather obscene financial angles with these elections, and the rather boring rants of the 'it doesn't matter either way' brigade who we can see above, being childish fuckwits
These childish paranoid wankers never seen to put forward alternatives to their emo grasp of reality, other than several billion links to youtube they thrust forward as THE TRUTH
FAIL
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Tue 4 Nov 2008, 23:28,
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These childish paranoid wankers never seen to put forward alternatives to their emo grasp of reality, other than several billion links to youtube they thrust forward as THE TRUTH
FAIL

Lots of reasons actually. 90% fiscal. the guy is a Socialist (capitalization intentional) and I refuse to vote for a guy who uses terms like "Spread the wealth" when asked why he would increase taxes on the Middle Class.
Additionally, he says idiotic things about the average 'Merkin like we are 'bitter people, clinging to our guns and religion.'
He's an arse and a Socialist. Sorry.
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Wed 5 Nov 2008, 3:05,
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Additionally, he says idiotic things about the average 'Merkin like we are 'bitter people, clinging to our guns and religion.'
He's an arse and a Socialist. Sorry.