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This is a link post UK has cheapest rail fares in Europe
According to the usually excellent Seat61.
(, Thu 4 Jan 2018, 14:34, , Reply)
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So unless you need to travel in rush hour the UK is okay and can be cheaper if you book in advance.

If you have to commute, you're fucked utterly.

They are indeed usually better than this.
(, Thu 4 Jan 2018, 14:59, , Reply)
This is a normal post "This post was sponsored by our good friends at nationalrail.co.uk"
Limiting myself to speaking about what I know: Rail travel, short or long across the Netherlands and Germany is always a fraction of the price of the UK.
...plus in germany you can buy day tickets for unlimited travel within huge regions that are as cheap as piss.
(, Thu 4 Jan 2018, 15:03, , Reply)
This is a normal post Price per mile in this country must be the worst in the world

(, Thu 4 Jan 2018, 15:19, , Reply)
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It's 4 quid for a paper ticket from Covent Garden to Leicester Square. That's for 45 seconds of tube ride. Bargain.
(, Thu 4 Jan 2018, 15:53, , Reply)
This is a normal post The .......
Front end arrives at Covent Garden as the back end departs Leicester Square.
(, Thu 4 Jan 2018, 16:08, , Reply)
This is a normal post I think if anyone gets the tube between Covent Garden & Leicester square
then they deserve to be pushed under the train, never mind charged £4 to travel in it.
(, Thu 4 Jan 2018, 16:10, , Reply)
This is a normal post Yes but think of all the exciting communicable disease you might pick up in that time!

(, Thu 4 Jan 2018, 16:20, , Reply)
This is a normal post Accept a bit fucking myopic if 80% of your "investigation" focuses on off-peak.
Plymouth to London (not far off Sheffield example) is £12 advance (that is in a sale that you might only realise is on if you have fare finding alert apps up the arse), fine if booking 1 month in advance to get you into London halfway through the fucking lunch hour. Otherwise, and here is his other 85 fucking %...over £100. I would also add that the focus on London makes this a bit bias, any South-West location to midlands (e.g. Birmingham, again rough distance) is going to be more expensive. He can fuck right off back to seat 61!
(, Thu 4 Jan 2018, 15:05, , Reply)
This is a normal post I don't want to accept it

(, Thu 4 Jan 2018, 15:07, , Reply)
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Bugger...I had train rage!
(, Thu 4 Jan 2018, 15:08, , Reply)
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I fucking hate them...but I have to accept them as I have no other choice.
(, Thu 4 Jan 2018, 15:09, , Reply)
This is a normal post ^trainsphobic

(, Thu 4 Jan 2018, 15:10, , Reply)
This is a normal post what a fucking wanker

(, Thu 4 Jan 2018, 15:11, , Reply)
This is a normal post ^

(, Thu 4 Jan 2018, 15:18, , Reply)
This is a normal post I'd still rather be in my own car, with my own tunes and not have to mix with the hoi polloi.

(, Thu 4 Jan 2018, 15:13, , Reply)
This is a normal post All that road tax and fuel duty that goes to subsidising public transport is worth paying to be in your own private space.

(, Thu 4 Jan 2018, 15:45, , Reply)
This is a normal post You're not wrong there sonny-jim.

(, Thu 4 Jan 2018, 16:09, , Reply)
This is a normal post alright Elon

(, Thu 4 Jan 2018, 16:28, , Reply)
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driving there and back in my car works out cheaper and quicker than taking the train one way.

If I need to carry more than my phone it is always more convenient.

Public transport needs to have just one thing that makes it better than taking your car, especially if there is only one person travelling. It either needs to be more convenient, cheaper, or quicker.

It is none of the above.

If I wanted to go from Bristol to London right now on the train, it would cost me £34.80 one way (Super off peak single, Selected off-peak trains) and it would take two hours and involve a change. If I drove there and back it would cost £20 and take an hour and a half each way. If I filled my car with other people we could get there and back for just over a fiver each.

The most expensive ticket (first class, any train, any time) would cost £154.50.

I could get a return flight to Spain, with luggage, for less than that...
(, Thu 4 Jan 2018, 17:29, , Reply)
This is a normal post There are so many other reasons why train travel is shite too.
If you want the cheapest train tickets you have to go on a specific train which gives you little flexibility if plans change/meetings run over.

I don't have to stand for the entire journey in my car whilst busting for a piss.

I've never had to sit in my car with the stench of sewage seeping from an overflowing toilet.

I don't have to get out of my car to change into another car, or take a fucking bus for part of the journey.

My car doesn't go on strike, and there is no argument over who is allowed to close the doors.

I don't have to hold my farts in.

I don't have to try and avoid making eye contact with a pissed up, cross-eyed Glaswegian opposite me on the phone to his missus telling her not to let the social take their kids away...
(, Thu 4 Jan 2018, 20:10, , Reply)
This is a normal post My car doesn't leave me and my better half stranded at Haywards Heath at midnight
because it has decided to go to Eastbourne instead.
(, Thu 4 Jan 2018, 20:56, , Reply)
This is a normal post My car has never been steamed by a group of feral yout'

(, Thu 4 Jan 2018, 21:02, , Reply)
This is a normal post Steamed?
It appears I am unfamiliar with this practice and the googles come up with too many results when the words steam and train are mixed in a search.

What happens when `de yout` steam a train?
(, Fri 5 Jan 2018, 13:22, , Reply)
This is a normal post I think the local children are taking steaming shits on cold stares car

(, Fri 5 Jan 2018, 14:52, , Reply)
This is a normal post When `de yout` steam a train
`de yout` get on at one station, rob the whole carriage while the train is moving, then get off at the next station.
(, Fri 5 Jan 2018, 16:49, , Reply)
This is a normal post My car has never txt me to say I have no reliable way of getting home.

(, Fri 5 Jan 2018, 9:23, , Reply)
This is a normal post My car has never hit a fox so hard and got so fucked that it was unable to move for 3 hours.
My car can drive over leaves.
My car can drive through a moderate amount of water.
My car is capable of navigating faulty signals.
My car doesn't have a shit sitting in the back seat constantly trying to flog me mars bars.
My car's wifi doesn't need all my passengers to provide their email only to grind to halt at select times and then have me email them stuff about how great I am.
Fuck trains, fuck trains..fucking, fuck trains!
(, Fri 5 Jan 2018, 9:32, , Reply)
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Trains can drive over leaves.
Trains can drive through a moderate amount of water.
Trains can be navigated through faulty signals.

Just saying.
(, Fri 5 Jan 2018, 12:13, , Reply)
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Fucking pedant. With all three it takes some early or late afternoon safety committee comprised of fluorescent orange rail goblins to decide on it though...in the car you just close your eyes hit the accelerator and 9 times out of 10 it works out ok.
(, Fri 5 Jan 2018, 13:55, , Reply)
This is a normal post What a bellend
Comparing the pricing for rail commuters to business flights is bollocks

1. If you fly business chances are your company will be paying for it. You don't fly business to commute
2. When flying business you will be guaranteed a seat something which many commuters dream about
3. Also flying business will probably entitle you to air miles/club points and maybe lounges, free food coffee etc. As a regular commuter you get fleeced and get fuck all in return. You see adverts for all the great savings and deals you can get but they never apply to you because you are taken for granted and shat on because you need the train to get to work to do your job. I have noticed recently that companies have been extending their peak times to stop those who might be able to work flexible hours avoiding peak travel.

Wankers.
(, Thu 4 Jan 2018, 15:16, , Reply)
This is a normal post “with the highest fares designed to get maximum revenue from business travel”
“Business travel”? ITYM “People going to work”.
(, Thu 4 Jan 2018, 15:20, , Reply)
This is a normal post My season ticket went down by about £20 this year
I’m trying not to be smug about that
(, Thu 4 Jan 2018, 21:27, , Reply)