Indie Game Review: Enter The Gungeon
I made this!
An older, but much loved Indie Dungeon Crawler. I've been playing it a little this week, so I thought I'd finally get around to "reviewing" it.
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dogbomb, Fri 3 Jul 2020, 22:31,
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Ah yes, this means I can have more drink now
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Fadgebadger (1 like), Fri 3 Jul 2020, 22:52,
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If I reply here, does it push SC's paedo posting further down the page?
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Invisible Wizard - 9th Level Pissant, Sat 4 Jul 2020, 11:36,
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Yes
... turns out it does
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Invisible Wizard - 9th Level Pissant, Sat 4 Jul 2020, 11:36,
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Nice
- now maybe I can look at Dogbomb's fun contribution to the site without having to be reminded about kiddie fiddlers.
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Invisible Wizard - 9th Level Pissant, Sat 4 Jul 2020, 11:37,
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Just ignore Sockcooker
Nothing of value is lost.
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Thrill_My_Chinchilla is old and unimproved, Sat 4 Jul 2020, 12:36,
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I've quite enjoyed a few of their posts
- I just wish they'd drop this silly crusade against Dogbomb over a single comment made in what is FUCKING CLEARLY a parody game, that doesn't even feature in DB's video.
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Invisible Wizard - 9th Level Pissant, Sat 4 Jul 2020, 16:09,
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What "single comment"?
I genuinely don't know what you mean.
Dogbomb has a channel called "YouBigNonce", and in September 2019, posted a video about a game which talks about "banging" a 12 year old before she is 13.
I asked him to remove it back then, and he hasn't, so I am asking him again now.
Is that a "crusade"?
I've asked for the game to be removed from Steam, and other videos about it to be removed from YouTube, but their implementation of their own rules is crap unless it's a highly-visible thing like David Icke.
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The single comment in the misleading and very large screenshot from someone else's video that you keep spamming.
It's good to see your claims getting smaller and less unrealistic. You're nearly there.
The game does indeed feature a character who is a paedophile, but he is not the game's protagonist, he is not a sympathetic character, and he is LITERALLY dehumanised in the game.
Steam's implementation of their own rules seems consistent from my perspective, since I know the game does not break said rules.
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brb shitting dahlias, Sat 4 Jul 2020, 19:41,
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Oh, wait, what...
I ignored them. Does it rage again?
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dogbomb, Sat 4 Jul 2020, 11:39,
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Ha! Nice try SockCooker, I've got you sussed! ;-)
b3ta.com/links/1543151
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da5id <YOUR SIG HERE>, Sat 4 Jul 2020, 11:41,
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No idea
Keeping links clean.
Tried having a peek, decided to not bother doing so again.
And nothing of value was lost.
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My Name was saying these words inside your head on, Sat 4 Jul 2020, 13:11,
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To be honest
it was last week sometime I peeked, I have not peeked since, but then again I don't need to from the sounds of things.
It's all much nicer.
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My Name was saying these words inside your head on, Sat 4 Jul 2020, 15:47,
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Oh FFS. Is that terminal bore back again?
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evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Sat 4 Jul 2020, 11:55,
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Disappointing lack of gunge.
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FeralCatMan Unusual disease collector., Fri 3 Jul 2020, 22:55,
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You are Dave Benson Phillips, AICMFP.
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evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Fri 3 Jul 2020, 23:28,
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No way, I'm old school, TISWAS!
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FeralCatMan Unusual disease collector., Fri 3 Jul 2020, 23:32,
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Paedophiles in plain sight
dogbomb's YouTube channel is "YouBigNonce".
It has a video about a paedophile game. He refuses to remove it.
Saying "I didn't know it was a paedo game" makes some sense... except... he does know now.
And has for almost a year.
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What do you expect me to do in response to this?
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FeralCatMan Unusual disease collector., Sat 4 Jul 2020, 1:07,
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It's really not complicated
dogbomb often posts reviews of games.
In Sept 2019, the game he reviewed had paedo stuff.
I've asked him to remove it. He hasn't.
I don't like channels that promote games about raping 12 year olds.
I think he should just remove it, and maybe say "sorry". I don't necessarily think he's a paedo; maybe he really didn't know it was a game about that - but it is a bit worrying that a channel called "You Big Nonce" features a game that talks about raping a kid.
YouTube and Steam - and b3ta - need to get their shit together about this type of thing. It really shouldn't be so hard to get rid of this crap.
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Could the game be making revolting jokes?
Little girl and a pedophile are walking into the woods.
"These woods look dark and scary" she says.
"Shut up, I've got to get back on my own.
It's funny because of the sudden, dark realisation of what he is saying.
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FeralCatMan Unusual disease collector., Sat 4 Jul 2020, 1:38,
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Sure, I can accept it was an attempted bad-taste joke.
That doesn't make it OK, and doesn't mean it should remain on b3ta or YouTube or Steam.
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This is a website which where censorship is minimal and the owner published a book of sick jokes.
"You big nonce" is probably a geordie phrase like "you silly bugger" might be used.
Real paedophiles don't waste time posting game reviews on adult(ish) websites; Tiktok, Instagram and Minecraft would yield better results.
You didn't answer my question on the post above.
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FeralCatMan Unusual disease collector., Sat 4 Jul 2020, 2:05,
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"You big nonce" is probably a geordie phrase like "you silly bugger"
Like "you nigger" is slang for you cunt,
or "you retard" is slang for you're stupid,
or "that's gay" is slang for something bad,
or "you faggot" is slang for a dickhead?
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You're angry all the time, it must be exhausting
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mofaha ┐( ˘_˘)┌ ʅ(́◡◝)ʃ, Sat 4 Jul 2020, 5:41,
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I genuinely think you have actual mental problems
You also LOVE typing those words. I assume you have your lad out again?
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Fadgebadger (1 like), Sat 4 Jul 2020, 9:21,
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Isn't Sockcooker the one who got his foot chopped off then went a bit fucking loopy on the painkillers?
Either way, his behaviour reminds me a fuckload of how I used to act when I'd knock back 3 litres of Frosty Jack's and half a bottle of Vodka each night before cracking my knuckles and jumping on the internet.
It also explains the mass post deletions the following day as he awakes from his drug/alcohol induced stupor and realises what a fucking bellend he's been.
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Think that was fluffybunnykiller
But yeah you're right, does sound like a pissed up mental
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Fadgebadger (1 like), Sat 4 Jul 2020, 10:49,
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At least I don't start on futile personal crusades.
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FeralCatMan Unusual disease collector., Sat 4 Jul 2020, 16:27,
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It was a failed joke.
Based on the (very feasible) assumption that the any use of the words 'mental and pissed' must apply to me.
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FeralCatMan Unusual disease collector., Sat 4 Jul 2020, 22:47,
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Thank you.
It's about time that people recognise 'nonce' as hatespeech against the LGBTP community.
They can't even get a job in a nursery thanks to society's bigotry.
#PLM!
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VicJameson : fucking internet virgins since, Sat 4 Jul 2020, 13:01,
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I don't think those words mean what you think they mean
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gaijintendo Regular Member, Sat 4 Jul 2020, 18:52,
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PPOR
You need to provide proof that the game is what you say it is, otherwise reasonable doubt favours dogbomb, youtube and Steam, not to mention all the other seemingly reasonable people who disagree with your assessment of the game, and you are super guilty of bad defamation.
Merely containing 'paedo stuff' in the context of your deliberately misleading screenshot isn't evidence in support of your argument. Family Guy, South Park, Rick & Morty, Derek & Clive, Brass Eye, these all contain 'paedo stuff' in one form or another that's more overt than the crap joke in your screenshot. None of them glorifies or normalises paedophilia.
Can you imagine the possibility that this game involves a paedophile character but does not glorify or normalise the behaviour of that character?
Under what circumstances can you imagine admitting that you are wrong?
Legitimate questions asked sincerely. Apologies for my sig.
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brb shitting dahlias, Sat 4 Jul 2020, 2:45,
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I'm sorry, I should have made myself more clear.
You need to provide actual evidence that the game is what you claimed it was last week and the week before.
To recap, you claimed that the game normalised and glorified raping children, that it was a game about raping children, that it is fundamentally a paedophile simulator. You claim that it breaks the ethical rules set by Steam (who host the game) and you claim that dogbomb's video promotes raping children, contrary to YT's standards.
Your picture, which is not a screenshot from dogbomb's video, shows one line of dialogue presented with no supporting context. It describes a paedophile who has failed to rape a child.
One could show a scene from Family Guy where Herbert the pervert tries to groom or ensnare Chris and falsely claim that Family Guy is a show about a paedophile raping a boy.
One could present any scene from Brass Eye's Paedophile Special episode and deliberately mislead someone who doesn't know better that Brass Eye is a show dedicated to promoting paedophilia.
So you must be able to see how spamming your giant screenshot, which is not actually taken from dogbomb's video, is not reasonably convincing evidence in support of your argument.
Can you imagine a hypothetical reality in which the Phucker game merely involves a paedophile character in a similar way to Family Guy or Brass Eye? Do you actually accept that it is possible to address the issue of paedophilia in a way that does not normalise or glorify paedophilia? I ask these questions sincerely and with no mocking tone.
Under what circumstances can you imagine yourself admitting that you are wrong? What standard of proof would you require? Again, these are genuine questions and I do not intend to mock you.
How would you feel if someone repeatedly and systematically slandered you with 'paedo stuff'? This is an appeal to empathy and is not intended as a threat, nor is it intended to mock you in any way.
The onus is on you to prove that dogbomb, Youtube, Steam, and seemingly everybody else in the world, are all wrong. Your context-free screenshot taken from someone else's video calls your argument and character into question. I state this as a point of fact/procedure and not as an insult.
I would appreciate replies to my questions this time. I say this with a small degree of frustration and impatience, but with no intention to insult or harm you in any way.
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brb shitting dahlias, Sat 4 Jul 2020, 4:38,
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There is a video game.
It contains dialogue describing a desire to rape a 12 year old child.
dogbomb made a video ahout that game.
He may have not known about that part of the game.
Do you dispute any of those statements?
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He probably even reviewed games where the characters want to murder each other. I hear young people even shoot guns in those terrible video games!
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There is a TV show, "Comic Strip Presents: Five Go Mad in Dorset".
It contains dialog about the desire to rape underage boys, and scenes of bestiality, incest, racism, xenophobia, and homophobia.
This video is available on the Comic Strip Youtube channel.
Isn't it possible that Phucker in the Woods is a parody, and not actually advocating paedophilia?
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Invisible Wizard - 9th Level Pissant, Sat 4 Jul 2020, 7:51,
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Actually, isn't it possible that SockCooker is a parody, and not actually being so tedious about what is clearly a joke game?
Admit it - you're actually a Mr Penis sock puppet, aren't you?
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Invisible Wizard - 9th Level Pissant, Sat 4 Jul 2020, 7:52,
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Sat 4 Jul 2020, 8:05,
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You didn't answer any of my questions.
I agree with you that there is indeed a video game.
It does indeed contain the dialogue that you spam here every week.
Dogbomb did indeed make a video of himself playing that game.
Dogbomb almost certainly did not know about the part of the game containing the one line of dialogue you keep spamming.
Do you accept that there is a mountain of evidence that you are fundamentally wrong about
- the nature of the game?
- the content of the game?
- how the game presents paedophilia?
Do you actually accept that it is possible to address the issue of paedophilia in a way that does not normalise or glorify paedophilia?
Under what circumstances can you imagine yourself admitting that you are wrong? What standard of proof would you require?
How would you feel if someone repeatedly and systematically slandered you with 'paedo stuff'?
The onus is on you to prove that dogbomb, Youtube, Steam, and seemingly everybody else in the world, are all wrong.
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brb shitting dahlias, Sat 4 Jul 2020, 15:44,
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You're the one who keeps posting shit about banging 12 year olds, SockCooker.
Dogbomb posted a video in which he plays a weird game that makes bizarro jokes in a parody of animé Visual Novels - and he appropriately took the piss out of it and called it "fucking weird".
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Invisible Wizard - 9th Level Pissant, Sat 4 Jul 2020, 7:36,
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"Hello you big nonces"....
Like, as a casual greeting.
Is it OK to be a nonce [1] now? Is it accepted on b3ta? Is it fine to say "hey, paedophiles, here is a cool game about sex with 12 year olds"?
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Apparently, because you do it every week.
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brb shitting dahlias, Sat 4 Jul 2020, 2:58,
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Not every word means what you think it does, you absolute bellcrease
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptographic_nonce
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Fadgebadger (1 like), Sat 4 Jul 2020, 9:24,
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stop harassing people on this site
and go and get the game banned if you care that much
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Did you take that screenshot from another youtuber? It seems that Mr Nonce's video (which is 15:27 not 8:10 long) doesn't even contain that specific scene.
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His screenshot is not from any video produced by dogbomb.
It's from a different youtuber, who I assume SockCooker is slandering and abusing once a week on another website.
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brb shitting dahlias, Sat 4 Jul 2020, 14:49,
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I wouldn't have heard of this game
if you didn't post a massive screen grab every week.
Perhaps asking people to report it to Steam might be a better approach than the sealioning.
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monkeon schmonkeon, Sat 4 Jul 2020, 10:22,
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Looks good.
(Love the ignore button)
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Thrill_My_Chinchilla is old and unimproved, Sat 4 Jul 2020, 3:14,
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Curiosity got the better of me
So I logged out.
Glad I'm not banging my head against that particular brick wall this week.
(though I did go back and watch playthroughs of the game in question. I'm willing to listen, learn and climb off my horse if needed.
Interestingly, the developer had posted on the comments of the playthrough and was asking if they'd managed to make Hiroshi - the guy pictured - was made reprehensible enough. You're SUPPOSED to hate him. Also he kills himself later in the game.
If anyone wants the video, and the discussion - it's here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSICdkvjkmI
Fair warning, it does contain that particular bit posted above. Thought with a little more context. You can watch the entire playthrough if you need the whole thing though. The nature of Hiroshi is alluded to much earlier, but this is the most blatant part.)
Still. Let's just take everything out of context, eh?
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dogbomb, Sat 4 Jul 2020, 11:46,
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I liked the description of “a seal barking”
I’m still baffled as to what was trying to be achieved.
If the YBN video is deleted, nobody goes back through the b3ta archive anyway, there are still loads and loads of other playthroughs of that game on YouTube, including the one that keeps getting screenshots posted alongside all your other videos so free publicity. And of course the game still exists, in a form that won’t deprave anyone anyway. Absolutely bonkers.
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Thrill_My_Chinchilla is old and unimproved, Sat 4 Jul 2020, 12:47,
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Arf arf arf!!!
I wouldn't ignore a seal. They're cute. And don't post strawman arguments on the internet.
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dogbomb, Sat 4 Jul 2020, 13:01,
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I wonder if he belongs to others forums and behaves in the same way
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They'd have probably all kicked him out by now
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Fadgebadger (1 like), Sat 4 Jul 2020, 13:09,
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He claims to have been a moderator, I assume on forums.
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brb shitting dahlias, Sat 4 Jul 2020, 14:56,
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He finally reached ignore leve for me
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simbosan liked your link on, Sat 4 Jul 2020, 13:33,
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Apart from this seemingly delusional slanderous behaviour he seems a decent fellow.
Of course I would say that because I'm trying to confuse people who think he and I are the same person.
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brb shitting dahlias, Sat 4 Jul 2020, 15:05,
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That “apart from” is enough for me to forego all the other links, and push him out of my “decent fellow” category
.... Schizophrenia would explain a lot though, hmmmm.
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Thrill_My_Chinchilla is old and unimproved, Sat 4 Jul 2020, 20:06,
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His outrage seems to peak at weekends.
Substance abuse is my guess.
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That timing is only because Dogbomb posts Friday night though
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Thrill_My_Chinchilla is old and unimproved, Sat 4 Jul 2020, 20:27,
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No need to apologise.
It was just a really, really weird episode.
(I logged out again, it’s still going on, but it’s obvious no evidence is EVER going to change SockCooker’s mind, so I’m not unignoring them)
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Thrill_My_Chinchilla is old and unimproved, Sat 4 Jul 2020, 22:47,
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