And the Ignorant Cunts of the Week award goes to...
Relative horrified to find plaque attached to memorial bench | Press and Journal
A visitor from England was shocked to find a new plaque has been attached to a bench at Oldshoremore beach in memory of her grandfather.
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of all the horrifying things in the world at the moment, finding a bench now has two plaques instead of one is the most shockingly horrifying of the all
I hope they were offered counselling, but thanks for bringing this important story to our attention. Whoever added the unrelated second plaque, even though they had just as much right to add it as the relatives of whom the first plaque was dedicated to, should be hunted down and special provisions made for bringing back the death penalty. The idea of commemorating a piece of council furniture to more than one individual is anathema to everything England holds sacred.
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Fri 24 Jul 2020, 0:38,
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I agree that this is not horrifying
But am interested in your notion that a person has the right to screw a plaque over the original plaque on someone else’s memorial bench. Can you explain that?
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The_cold_stare Coming here only when very, very bored, Fri 24 Jul 2020, 0:50,
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yeah, except they didn't if you read the article, though I can understand the assumption given the histrionics of everybody involved
they just put another small plaque down somewhere else on the bench. it says "close to" not over, and obviously not so close that it's in the same frame
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Fri 24 Jul 2020, 1:03,
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Imagining you are being totally serious for a moment:
Kate Hamilton, 40, a groom from Newmarket, was horrified to see the metal plaque, bearing the words ‘Scott, AMJ & Lolly We love this beach’ screwed onto the bench close to the memorial plaque for her grandfather, Ron Hamilton.
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brb welcome to my reed organ repair blog, Fri 24 Jul 2020, 1:04,
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Over or near, they don’t have the right to do it
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The_cold_stare Coming here only when very, very bored, Fri 24 Jul 2020, 1:34,
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why not? how are their rights different to the first family. it's not like it's either of their property, it's the councils
I bet they never even sought or filed the requisite permissions or risk assessments to put the bench there in the first place, and now the council is liable for any damages that arise from its use, the selfish bastards. They confess to placing it there themselves instead of a qualified engineer approved by the council which would have been the safe and appropriate approach. Did they check to see if their ad-hoc installation blocks access routes to fire service? Of course they fucking didn't. And now they have the unmitigated audacity, the brazen effrontery to complain to the papers about somebody else placing a small tasteful plaque when all along they've been littering the landscape with oversize items of unauthorised amenities, it's enough to make you vomit at the blatant hypocrisy and sickening double standards. These people are lower than dogs
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Fri 24 Jul 2020, 1:47,
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One must assume out of politeness that you're only playing stupid.
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brb welcome to my reed organ repair blog, Fri 24 Jul 2020, 14:42,
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One must assume out of politeness that you didn’t have time to actually argue the point I made
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The_cold_stare Coming here only when very, very bored, Fri 24 Jul 2020, 18:12,
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Thanks.
But I think I did.
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brb welcome to my reed organ repair blog, Fri 24 Jul 2020, 18:42,
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You quoted the article. Does that count as an argument in your world?
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The_cold_stare Coming here only when very, very bored, Fri 24 Jul 2020, 21:14,
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It refuted the argument that you made, so yes.
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brb welcome to my reed organ repair blog, Fri 24 Jul 2020, 21:55,
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My argument was not about where the second plaque was screwed
but about whether it should have been screwed there in the first place. So no
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The_cold_stare Coming here only when very, very bored, Fri 24 Jul 2020, 23:43,
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But am interested in your notion that a person has the right to screw a plaque over the original plaque on someone else’s memorial bench. Can you explain that?
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brb welcome to my reed organ repair blog, Fri 24 Jul 2020, 23:59,
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The crux of the argument was whether someone had the right to...
The rest is semantics
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The_cold_stare Coming here only when very, very bored, Sat 25 Jul 2020, 13:48,
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The rest was the specific question, which was bollocks.
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brb welcome to my reed organ repair blog, Sat 25 Jul 2020, 23:52,
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Great argument
Quotes and swearing. You are a genius
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The_cold_stare Coming here only when very, very bored, Sun 26 Jul 2020, 0:08,
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...and was consumed by righteous anger*.
*the most enjoyable sort.
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FeralCatMan Unusual disease collector., Fri 24 Jul 2020, 3:04,
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They fail to see an upside
Maybe having two plaques is better! It shows that TWO people loved that bench, it's a beautiful connection.
May the bench be covered with memories of happiness in future
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simbosan is too tired, Fri 24 Jul 2020, 1:15,
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Except it isn't 'a piece of Council furniture'.
'Oldshoremore beach was her grandfather’s favourite spot, so Ms Hamilton’s dad placed the bench there in his memory after he died.'.
It seems that Ms Hamilton's Father purchased the bench specifically as a memorial.
(, Fri 24 Jul 2020, 1:21, Reply)
if it's on public land then it's a donated bench now owned by the council, that anybody is free to use. there's no suggestion that it was on their property, which would be a different matter entirely
This is really scraping the bottom of the Barrel of Outrage™,even for you
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Fri 24 Jul 2020, 1:52,
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No, not true
Remembrance bench upkeep is down to the council who do it on behalf of the people who requested and paid for the bench. They should be removing the plaque themselves. You are just making it up, Cumquat. But I am sure you know this
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The_cold_stare Coming here only when very, very bored, Fri 24 Jul 2020, 3:31,
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here's the very first reference I googled:
"All memorials placed on Council owned or managed land are deemed to be assets of the Mornington Peninsula Shire Council and managed in accordance with Council’s policies and procedures"
www.mornpen.vic.gov.au/files/assets/public/new-website-documents/about-us/meetings-amp-minutes/2017/attachments-2017/171010ca_att_314_1.pdf
so, it's clear these people complaining have no property rights to whatever they've dumped on the council ledger to make every other citizen part of what should have been private family grieving. It's not managed "on behalf of the people that requested it", they have no ownership of it whatsoever. And they have no more right than any other passer-by to use it, and the text indicates they put the bench there themselves rather than paying the council to do it. And the next lot of people who put their plaque had just as much right to put there asset on Council owned land or property as the first mob, but at least theirs was discreet and not bringing everybody down . I mean, let's all just plaster the landscape every time somebody carks it, reminding total strangers that somebody who they've never heard of died. It's not like we haven't got a specific place already for that in cemeteries. Oh no, that's not enough! everyone needs to know about my uncle bob and how he loved this place and probably preyed on unaccompanied minors while he was there. And it's not just some massively selfish bit of family egotism, it's now a sacred site, and anyone infringing from making it about all me, me, me, by putting their own sentiments near mine is awful and needs libellous news articles to blacken their names!
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Fri 24 Jul 2020, 4:42,
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the same principle applies for all councils. people don't go around owning permanent fixtures on public land merely because they've dumped it there. the idea is absurd
as usual, these threads are generally a litany of the other person being wrong. Wrong about the plaque being replaced or covered. Wrong about it not being council furniture. wrong about property rights and who pays for the ongoing management. Yet do I ever get thanks for taking the time to refute all these baseless claims and scurrilous imputations? Ah well. Adversus solem ne loquitor
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Fri 24 Jul 2020, 5:57,
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Let’s hope someone doesnt screw a plaque near your own name on your gravestone. Apparently that would also be fine
My issue is with the ethics and morals of someone who believes doing it is okay
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The_cold_stare Coming here only when very, very bored, Fri 24 Jul 2020, 18:15,
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You think there might be a body buried under the bench?
The plot thickens.
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brb welcome to my reed organ repair blog, Fri 24 Jul 2020, 19:49,
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let's break down the baseless assumptions the colds stares latest sally (though I'm beginning to suspect he may simply be playing the role of the straight man to give me material)
false assumption one: A park bench is not a grave, as brb made the obvious point. I'd assume if he has family motivated enough to be dumping furniture around the traps, then they've probably ponied up for an actual grave in a cemetery, and in my view should have left it at that.
false assumption two: you know when you go out to some little village in England and see some church that's been there since the domesday book and it has a nice little graveyard next to it? Do you assume current graves reflect all the people who've died in this village? Bzzzzz! Sorry, you lose 10 points. Archaeologists estimate many small church graveyards in england have up to half a million people buried in them (people tended to die often and early in time of yore). So strangers were constantly getting buried in the same plots, and the headstones, crosses and markers constantly replaced with each new stiff. They're not nearly held as sacred and permanent as you think they were. And again, we're talking about a park bench, not a gravestone
False assumption three: I could not give a shit about what happens after I die to my corpse. they could put in on a pedestal in leicester square getting bummed by an animatronic dog with a giant neon sign above saying "Cumquat may was a paedo" and I'd still be incapable of caring, being dead.
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Sat 25 Jul 2020, 1:40,
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False assumption 4
That I assume any of the three false assumptions above
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The_cold_stare Coming here only when very, very bored, Sun 26 Jul 2020, 0:09,
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It might have less to do with the local council and more to do with the John Muir Trust.
I think we are missing a lot of vital information here. Did the Hamiltons have permission from the relevant local authorities to dump a bench on the Sandwood Estate in the first place?
Who, if anyone, is expected to maintain it? If a fat old man sits on it and it breaks, injuring him and requiring an air ambulance, who is liable?
How does Francis Egerton, 7th Duke of Sutherland feel about it? Is he a possible suspect? Where was he on the night that the plaque was installed?
Who is the mysterious person, or entity, known as AMJ? Could it be the American Muslims for Jerusalem? Is Mossad involved?
Wake up heeples.
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brb welcome to my reed organ repair blog, Fri 24 Jul 2020, 19:33,
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Some would find this highly horrifying.
Different people have different benchmarks
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Mudface The web isn't callipygian, Fri 24 Jul 2020, 5:57,
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Oh I say
goot. vey goot.
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unclepills Enjoy yourself, it's later than you think., Fri 24 Jul 2020, 9:37,
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I've never understood this memorial bench nonsense
Ebeneezer McDorkmeister loved the view from this spot
Ebeneezer McDorkmeister can fuck off.
It's comparable to sellotaping a bunch of flowers to a lamppost.
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I see it as a formalized version of graffiti,
where the paint is replaced by brushed metal, and the font is replaced by Times New Roman.
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It’s a memorial bench, not fucking Instagram.
Why do Scott AMJ & Lolly think I give a flying fuck about their opinion, and why do they feel entitled to hijack someone else’s memorial in order to tell me?
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wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Fri 24 Jul 2020, 11:48,
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You should write an outraged post on b3ta.com/links.
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brb welcome to my reed organ repair blog, Fri 24 Jul 2020, 14:45,
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I might just do that.
Let me see if I can generate a suitable level of vitriol.
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wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Fri 24 Jul 2020, 16:56,
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Jesus H Fucking Christ. I disappear for a morning and when I come back you're all arguing about a bench.
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evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Fri 24 Jul 2020, 14:58,
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well, I had fun
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Sat 25 Jul 2020, 0:35,
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(, Sat 25 Jul 2020, 0:51, Reply)
Edinburgh
Edinburgh is bit over run with them !
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