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This is a link post B3TA and Daily Mail Joint Venture - YOU MADE THIS!
Congrats to all the B3TANS who made it into The Daily Mail's Credit Crunch pictorial feature.

I assume with all the 'copyright B3TA.com' sigs then the Daily Mail has forked out some cash to B3TA or the creators.
Turns out the Daily Mail has not struck a deal with B3TA or (some of) the creators.

(, Thu 16 Oct 2008, 14:39, Reply)
This is a normal post that's the second time they've done this in a few weeks....

which reminds me that I still haven't chased them up for that. The irony is also not lost on me that in an article referencing the finanacial crisis, they are quite keen on using 'free' content
(, Thu 16 Oct 2008, 14:44, Reply)
This is a normal post hmmmm
no copyright b3ta.com on the pics in the first feature.

Has a deal been done with B3TA ?
(, Thu 16 Oct 2008, 14:49, Reply)
This is a normal post hmm, first I've heard of it.
/and not all the b3ta pics in the second article have been tagged with the copyright thing either.

Still, we always have this...
(, Thu 16 Oct 2008, 14:53, Reply)
This is a normal post clicked!
(, Thu 16 Oct 2008, 14:54, Reply)
This is a normal post slightly edited now to give better parameters
/and an example...
(, Thu 16 Oct 2008, 14:58, Reply)
This is a normal post there's no deal
first I've heard of it is this thread

I'm not even sure B3ta is something that can legally hold copyright anyway, it's not a person or a company.

EDIT: Bollocks. This is Rob posting from a friends laptop not realising it's the wrong account.
(, Thu 16 Oct 2008, 16:52, Reply)
This is a normal post just to confirm this is me
woo hoo. Hello me.
(, Thu 16 Oct 2008, 16:54, Reply)
This is a normal post ^Post of the Day^
(, Thu 16 Oct 2008, 17:01, Reply)
This is a normal post Pffft :)

(, Thu 16 Oct 2008, 17:17, Reply)
This is a normal post welcome, noob ;)
and ta for the clarification :)
(, Thu 16 Oct 2008, 18:23, Reply)
This is a normal post thieving twats
The new Daily Mail Watch site should be ready shortly. Happy to promote any repeat of this ebaumesque nonsense.
(, Thu 16 Oct 2008, 18:49, Reply)
This is a normal post b3ta does not own copyright
copyright subsists in the original item produced by the contributor (subject to their having used sufficient skill and effort in producing it- a magenta cock on an image probably won't cut it with a Judge I suspect), IRRESPECTIVE of wether the producer has the permission of the copyright holder whose work (if any) they have plagiarised.

And as such the b3tan themself should be credited with copyright as B3ta does not take an assignment of copyright (legal or equitable) when pictures are posted (food for thoiught there Robbo) as b3ta simply provides a method of artists showcasing their work.

Just because you have no ownership of the copyright it wouldn't stop b3ta being cited as a co-defendant IN a copyright infringement action against a b3tan given you allow the method for potentially copyright-infringing material to be shown to the public.

One of these days I will write a guide about the facts for b3tans, (as far as they can be determined, nothing's ever clear in law, which is a good thing or I wouldn't have a job).

Suffice to say, the Daily Mail has no right to take the images without the PERMISSION of the artist, and should not be crediting B3ta for others work. They do that because big fat corporations are cunts (yes you knew that) who like to think they can stamp on the little people because they most likely have an in-house IP lawyer or it's taken them 30 seconds of their advisors time to tell them that on the balance or risk if an internet-nerd complains they'll just tell you they're much bigger than you, so you'll believe what they say, and won't take it any further.
(, Thu 16 Oct 2008, 18:55, Reply)
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(, Thu 16 Oct 2008, 14:45, Reply)
This is a normal post hahahahaha if only they knew that b3tans think of them as the biggest joke in the world...
oh the irony...
(, Thu 16 Oct 2008, 14:47, Reply)
This is a normal post I've tried to leave a comment.
It's rude.

It may be moderated out. We will see...
(, Thu 16 Oct 2008, 14:51, Reply)
This is a normal post be interesting to see if they print mine...
The irony isn't lost on me that for an article about the financial crisis, and how we're all having to cut back, the Daily Mail seems happy to use images taken without prior permission from a non-profit making website (B3ta.com) and going against PPA guidelines to make every effort to contact a creator of an image before to using it, pretty much as they did in this article here, which also got into print a few weeks ago.
Perhaps someone from the Mail could let the users of B3ta.com know where to send their invoices for the use of the images without prior permission or seeking confirmation of copyright?

(, Thu 16 Oct 2008, 15:14, Reply)
This is a normal post The url suggests the scanner
will make people naked through pure mechanical desire.
(, Thu 16 Oct 2008, 14:52, Reply)
This is a normal post on second thoughts. since it seems i wont be flying any time soon.
it will be good to see what the burqa wearing types make of it now some security guy will see your chuff.
(, Thu 16 Oct 2008, 15:02, Reply)
This is a normal post they don't appear to have made it into print
just leafed through today's offering, no sign.

if anyone wants me i'm in the shower.
(, Thu 16 Oct 2008, 14:59, Reply)
This is a normal post the original ones did form the first article...
linked scan here:

(, Thu 16 Oct 2008, 15:01, Reply)
This is a normal post i know they did
that's my scan.

you've shopped my tag off it
*phones lawyer :)
(, Thu 16 Oct 2008, 15:04, Reply)
This is a normal post haha, I forget who sent it to me?
was it you?
(, Thu 16 Oct 2008, 15:04, Reply)
This is a normal post no, i just posted it on the board
to stir up some outraged of b3ta comments.
(, Thu 16 Oct 2008, 15:05, Reply)
This is a normal post hmm, someone sent it to me
could have been Ghostie, not sure now
(, Thu 16 Oct 2008, 15:06, Reply)
This is a normal post FUCK A DUCK
I did TWO of those pictures!!!
(, Thu 16 Oct 2008, 17:05, Reply)