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All that coal being burned and for what? Use of these planet killing machines should have been banned for decades.
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( , Tue 16 May 2023, 15:31, Share, Reply)
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The sun's shining. Why not go outside and enjoy it instead of hanging around here being miserable all the time?
( , Tue 16 May 2023, 15:25, Share, Reply)
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More of an observation that your posts around here of late don't indicate a happy person. I mean you literally said you're getting feelings of despair.
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That said, those steam trains pale into insignificance compared to Australia's dependence on coal for generating electricity. Not that that is right either:
( , Tue 16 May 2023, 16:43, Share, Reply)
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Bring back galley slaves! Or at least market it as a free alternative to gym membership, combined with a round the world cruise.
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Only 40 years to wait until your container arrives at Felixstowe!
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according to the IEA, "In 2021 international shipping accounted for ~2% of global energy-related CO2 emissions." It's also widely reported that container ships and tankers have been going slower to increase fuel efficiency in recent years.
If you're suggesting that drilling and burning dinosaur juice is just as bad as mining and burning coal, I don't think that's right. Dino juice is less radioactive, less sooty, and you don't need to engineer a new wasteland to extract it.
Don't get me wrong, it needs to be banned too, obvs.
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www.scientificamerican.com/article/coal-ash-is-more-radioactive-than-nuclear-waste/
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Or in this particular case, the footnotes:
“As a general clarification, ounce for ounce, coal ash released from a power plant delivers more radiation than nuclear waste shielded via water or dry cask storage.”
So we’re comparing apples and oranges, then implying that one of those is a banana.
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A coal power plant releases more radiation than a nuclear plant, as your numbers clarify.
Mining practically anything releases Naturally Occurring Radioactive Materials (mostly radon gas but also some much nastier stuff).
Refining practically anything that's mined also produces NORMs. But unlike oil and gas, the burning of coal also produces NORMs.
Unlike with nuclear power stations, coal waste is just chucked into the environment. It's packed full of other nasty poisons and pollutants. It has (at least indirectly) contributed to the deaths of *millions* of people, and has a terrible effect on biodiversity and habitat loss. Coal is the worst of the worst. Best left buried.
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I’m disputing whether the effect is significant enough to warrant mentioning it whether it’s just another radiation scare story.
“At one extreme, the scientists estimated fly ash radiation in individuals' bones at around 18 millirems ”
For comparison:
“Each banana can emit .01 millirem” - source: www.epa.gov/radtown/natural-radioactivity-food
So a worst case estimate makes it equivalent to 1800 bananas. Or three per day.
I think you may need some perspective.
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A banana a day will actually reduce your risk of cancer. Suffering a steam train to exist will increase your risk of cancer.
This is not complicated.
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this is, after all, the same shipping industry that repeatedly kept extending the deadline for doing anything about carbon emissions
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The only way to feel despair looking at a steam train is if you're tied to the tracks
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www.trains.com/trn/news-reviews/news-wire/ukraine-rail-update-trains-return-to-liberated-cities-company-ceo-suggests-steam-as-backup-plan/
Not a one off jolly, but a day to day event.
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Would you just look at all that lovely steam and carbon being deposited into the atmosphere... the trees and plants are sure going to love soaking it all up to keep us stupid twats alive for a tiny bit longer :)
(not sarcasm)
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snowballs disprove global warming too, eh.
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I bet my arse to a pound of sausages you read the guardian...
( , Wed 17 May 2023, 9:00, Share, Reply)