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This is a link post It's a guardian link however it is warranted to highlight just how low Farage can sink
There is no justification for this, just none at all. Anyone who attempts to justify it is a cunt by association.
(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 9:15, , Reply)
This is a normal post His issue is only with the particular man he's pointing at
and obviously has no problem with rest of the crowd swarm
(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 9:38, , Reply)
This is a normal post How do you know he's not pointing to his favourite?

(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 10:17, , Reply)
This is a normal post Notice the body language:
Farage is not looking at him longingly.
(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 10:27, , Reply)
This is a normal post Sadness in his eyes
"This one. He broke my heart"
(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 10:34, , Reply)
This is a normal post I see you've read Kay Burley's
Non Verbal Communication - Breaking News In Your Face
(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 11:03, , Reply)
This is a normal post The mans a toad.
Glad he's not part of the official leave campaign.
(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 10:09, , Reply)
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When I see any of the leave campaign on the TV I just think you lying racist cunt.
(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 12:09, , Reply)
This is a normal post What sweeping generalization do you make about anyone from "remain" on TV

(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 12:40, , Reply)
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Not going to bother to answer because you try to put up a straw man every time then back out of the convo if it is not going the way you want.
(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 12:52, , Reply)
This is a normal post Sorry old chap, real life got in the way and I had to go do parenting.
where's this straw man then?
(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 15:41, , Reply)
This is a normal post Be nice if the Leave campaign disowned
him and his tactics, though.

Rather than things like this...
www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/boris-johnson-offers-nigel-farage-8199899
(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 14:47, , Reply)
This is a normal post Yes it would.
Don't know how true that story is if the source is one of farages mates but if he does get made a lord I doubt 1 more loony there would make a difference.
(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 15:39, , Reply)
This is a normal post I disagree, he has spent his recent political life consumed with concern about immigration
It doesn't make him a racist, merely a bit obsessed. Unfortunately the waves of migrants featured in this poster don't feature white Europeans, because they are coming from countries where people have darker skins. The sort of wanker who immediately accuses him of being a cunt because he is concerned about uncontrolled migration are themselves a spastic, and a pretty tragic one at that
(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 10:11, , Reply)
This is a normal post There is a whitey in the bottom right hand corner
They've put the strapline over him, though


(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 10:35, , Reply)
This is a normal post Looks like a Slovenian policeman to me
Unless migrants have taken to wearing body armour.
(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 11:31, , Reply)
This is a normal post Maybe it's a latter-day Conrad Schumann
looking for a better life in the West?
(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 11:44, , Reply)
This is a normal post Refugees are not economic migrants.

(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 10:47, , Reply)
This is a normal post not sure what point you're trying to make here

(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 10:57, , Reply)
This is a normal post seems self explanatory to me

(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 10:59, , Reply)
This is a normal post well yes, your point would be self explanatory to yourself
maybe you could elaborate for the rest of us?
(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 12:44, , Reply)
This is a normal post Absolutely.
So you see those refugees in the photo. Those ones Farage is pointing at. They are no migrants.

Hope that clears it up for you. If not you could try reading something other than the Daily Mail/Sun/Mein Kampf
(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 16:39, , Reply)
This is a normal post Migrant
"one who moves, either temporarily or permanently, from one place, area, or country of residence to another".

Oxford English Dictionary.
(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 18:23, , Reply)
This is a normal post How can you tell by looking at them that the're refugees?

(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 11:15, , Reply)
This is a normal post it's what the original photos were labelled as
Syrian refugees escorted to Slovenia
www.google.co.uk/search?q=Syrian+refugees+escorted+to+Slovenia&espv=2&biw=1062&bih=697&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiFtKnm7q7NAhVRF8AKHf1KBQ0Q_AUIBygC
(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 11:37, , Reply)
This is a normal post Getty images who source the photo label them as migrants
www.gettyimages.co.uk/pictorial/a-million-migrants-crossed-into-europe--ttZH-AuqoEiCjioKJVJdGw#migrants-are-escorted-through-fields-by-police-as-they-are-walked-picture-id493896788

Also the photo features mainly young men, was taken in Slovenia so presumaly they've already passed through Turkey, Greece or Macedonia, Serbia, Hungary or Croatia.

If you make the assumption their refugees then they've already passed though a number of safe havens where they could have claimed asylum. (If the EU hadn't closed the internal borders leaving Greece to deal with it)
(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 12:02, , Reply)
This is a normal post I don't buy that 'not refugees once they've crossed a line in the sand' thing
They're refugees until they've found somewhere that will accept them. And it's ridiculous to think the outer countries of Europe should take absolutely everyone. Especially when the central EU countries have had a part in bombing the fuck out of their country.
(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 12:11, , Reply)
This is a normal post Is the correct answer :)
No matter how unpalatable it will be for our political overlords, and for the gung-ho elements of our populations who whooped along to the whole thing, we HAVE to accept some responsibility for the absolutely dire situation in the Middle East.
The entire region has been a strategic playground for global powers for nearly a fucking century. They have played countries, tribes, religions and societies agaianst each other for their own strategic ends. Who'd have thunk that the outcome would be a region-wide bloodbath eh?
(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 12:23, , Reply)
This is a normal post That used to be the EU rule but I agree.
However you just cannot tell from a photo if someone is an economic migrant or a refugee.

Until that distinction is made "migrant" should be an acceptable term.
(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 12:44, , Reply)
This is a normal post Good grief...
Why stop there? You can't tell from that photo that they're not cardboard cutouts, either, in which case no-one has a problem at all.
(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 13:05, , Reply)
This is a normal post Well...
I can tell from that photo that Farage is a cunt.
(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 14:28, , Reply)
This is a normal post That's a tad different, no?

(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 15:43, , Reply)
This is a normal post They are Syrian refugees
and were identified as such in the original photos.
(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 11:47, , Reply)
This is a normal post Technically if they have passed through the first safe country they reach they are no longer refugees.

(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 11:33, , Reply)
This is a normal post Turkey
The first country they landed at was Turkey. If Turkey's such a great "safe" country then why are people up in arms about the prospect of them joining the EU? Confusing eh?

The refugees (yes, refugees not "migrants", even if the correct terminology does make you feel uncomfortable) in the photo were trying to get to Germany, who at the time had said they were welcome.

It's really not a hard concept to grasp.
(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 11:46, , Reply)
This is a normal post Because that goat-rimming twat Erdogan imprisons journalists
Among many, many other factors.
(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 11:49, , Reply)
This is a normal post Exactly
Which is exactly the point I was making. Someone suggested that the poor fuckers in the photo weren't refugees because they'd passed through the first "officially" safe country they'd landed in.
(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 11:52, , Reply)
This is a normal post Was that me? I used the term "migrant" because it's neutral.
The BBC uses it also for that reason.

Also where that photo was taken they would have passed through at least 4 safe countries and could have claimed their rights of asylum under international law.
(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 17:32, , Reply)
This is a normal post I've no problem with Turkey joining the EU. If it wasn't safe how come so many people go their on holiday?

(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 11:51, , Reply)
This is a normal post We have a solution then
You can fuck off and live in Turkey which you clearly consider a veritable paradise, whilst the refugees escaping 6 years of bombardment, starvation, murder, rape, brutalisation and excruciating deprivation can pass through Turkey to more civilised societies in Europe. You won't have to live near refugees and I won't have to share the same air as you. Win win eh?
(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 11:56, , Reply)
This is a normal post I know this sounds a little bit Dritten Reich...
...but can't we put them in camps in Lincolnshire and get them pedalling exercise bikes that are plugged into the national grid. That way they'd be singing for their supper, and we could make sure that the minority of rapists among them would be firmly under control.

[edit: Drittes Reich]
(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 12:00, , Reply)
This is a normal post Or, we could put ground troops into Syria and try and stabilise the region and bring an end to the sectarian violence?
You know, treat the cause, not the symptoms?
(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 12:01, , Reply)
This is a normal post Fantastic idea!
Just like "troops on the ground" solved all the problems in Afghanistan and Iraq!

Christ, I wish I'd had such clarity of thought!

Oh, hang on a minute... Sorry... I've just realised a flaw in your masterplan... 13 years of military interventions might actually the root cause of the rise and consolidation of sectarian and extremist groups and ideologies. If only some people had raised this spectre 13 years ago eh?

Shit, I really thought you had the answer to all the world's problems there as well. HashtagSadFace
(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 12:05, , Reply)
This is a normal post Ok, so what is the solution?
We just empty Syria, Iraq, Somalia, Eritrea, Sudan, Libya, Nigeria into Europe? We don't try and help fix things? We just turn a blind eye to the ill and infirm that aren't able to make the journey to escape?
(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 12:10, , Reply)
This is a normal post The point is..
That its not a simple situation with a simple answer. In fact, the whole scenario is an absolute clusterfuck and will require a more nuanced response than either closing borders or sending in troops. However, we have a media and a majority of the population who want to portray the situation in the childish paradigm of goodies vs baddies.
The problem is, the people who we call baddies were goodies not too long ago and the goodies were baddies before that, and at some point soon we'll be calling THEM baddies again. Meanwhile, outside the Western geopolitical sphere, there are other players who are calling OUR goodies baddies!!!

What is very patently fucking obvious though to anyone with a modicum of intelligence, is that 13 years of military invention has made things a HELL of a lot worse.
(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 12:18, , Reply)
This is a normal post Whilst the EU sat with its thumb up its arse Putin increased the numbers of refugees fleeing.
No side of the political debate has proposed anything that remotely sounds like trying to find a solution.
(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 12:31, , Reply)
This is a normal post Another minor flaw in your plan...
Soooo, we have a refugee crisis because of an ongoing armed conflict in Syria, yes?

You suggest we ESCALATE the conflict by sending in foreign ground forces, yes?

I'm just wondering, do you think an escalation of the conflict will:

A) decrease the number of refugees

OR

B) increase the number of refugees

I know its a toughie, but if you rub your two brain cells together for a few minutes, I'm sure you'll be able to figure it out.

(I'm a nice guy so I'll give you a clue, the answer is "B")
(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 12:11, , Reply)
This is a normal post Yes, there are only ever two possible outcomes in this digital world.
Clearing an area of hostile forces and having it under UN protection would in no way create a safe area for people to exist and build a life.

The problem we have is the world has lost its appetite to commit long term to anything and the complete mess of alliances and proxy wars means we are just turning a blind eye to the suffering unless it can make its own way to Calais.
(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 12:19, , Reply)
This is a normal post So much angry!

(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 13:23, , Reply)
This is a normal post That's the same Turkey that merkal made a deal with to send migrants back to after they've risked their lives crossing into Greece?
[edit]
Merkel,
(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 12:05, , Reply)
This is a normal post Yep
One of the most shameful episodes of European diplomacy
(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 12:07, , Reply)
This is a normal post and yet nobody is kicking up much of a fuss.
[edit]
Except for MSF
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36558694

Good for them taking a stand on this shameful fucking policy.
(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 15:13, , Reply)
This is a normal post "If you dont agree, YOU are a spastic"
That's how every UKIP leaflet should end.

Do they have a eugenics program yet? Surely only a matter of time
(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 12:14, , Reply)
This is a normal post Sorry but if you took time to actualy look at the economic migrants trying to get in the UK
then you will see that the vast majority is brown black and every shade in between.
That poster is showing a factual representation of the people trying to get here, and as such it isnt racist.
(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 11:05, , Reply)
This is a normal post
30 TRILLION MUSSIES WITH BROWN FACES COMING TO STEAL MY BENEFITS!!!!
(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 12:18, , Reply)
This is a normal post They've got ray-guns and evryfink!

(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 13:00, , Reply)
This is a normal post Ray guns they can keep
its the dictionary attack that worries me
(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 13:36, , Reply)
This is a normal post Nice piece on this in the spectator
here :- blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/06/a-day-of-infamy/
(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 11:09, , Reply)
This is a normal post Totalitarian idealogy best defeated by totalitarian idealogy.
>yawn<
(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 11:16, , Reply)
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Put the Daily Mail and it's readers down as utter cunts then. They are actually trying to spin this and blame a Labour MP.
(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 12:08, , Reply)
This is a normal post I thought that was a given.

(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 12:11, , Reply)
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Blood on Farage's grubby racist hands..
(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 12:16, , Reply)
This is a normal post Who's blood?

(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 12:18, , Reply)
This is a normal post
Jo Cox for one.
(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 12:22, , Reply)
This is a normal post whys that then?

(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 12:36, , Reply)
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How about months of abuse online etc from racists from UKIP/EDL/Britain First for campaigning for refugee rights. The day before she was there in London in a boat trying to stop Farage's publicity lie. That evening more abuse online then the next day she is murdered.
(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 12:50, , Reply)
This is a normal post "If people feel voting doesn’t change anything then violence is the next step." - N Farage
Not quite up there with "Whenever I hear the word culture, I reach for my Browning", but he's trying
(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 13:25, , Reply)
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Typical far right tactics.
(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 14:27, , Reply)
This is a normal post He pretty much is falling into the blackshirt category of cunts.

(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 14:29, , Reply)
This is a normal post Yes I thought that was going to be your angle
Ok so right now nobody knows why he murdered her and generally people on both sides of this bloody debate are respectfully not using her death for political gain.

However if you want to go on assumptions let's see what we currently assume.

1) He shouted something like "Britain first"
2) Reports are he bought a book from a white supremisist group in 1999 that had instructions for making a pipe gun.
3) He was a member of the far right Springbok Club.
4) He's suffered with an unknown mental illness that he has recieved treatment for.

I'm failing to see how you can blame farage for her death.
Whilst it's certainly looking like he was very right wing in his views farage isn't the king of right wing people. You might as well say cameron has blood on his hands for starting this whole process. Or how about the Paul Golding the leader of "britain first". How wide are you going to spread the blame?
Everyone who's been calling to leave the EU? Because that's a lot of fucking people on all sides of the political spectrum.

Yes the boat thing might have been a trigger.

What are you suggesting, we ban all protests and counter protests because someone with a mental illness might finally snap seeing it on the telly?
(, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 16:19, , Reply)
This is a normal post Why is that then?

(, Sun 19 Jun 2016, 11:16, , Reply)