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Music on vinyl records, mobile phones the size of house bricks and pornography printed on paper. What hideously out of date stuff do you still use?

Thanks to boozehound for the suggestion

(, Thu 4 Nov 2010, 12:44)
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Regular light bulbs
I use old fashioned (incandescent/tungsten) light bulbs. You know, i am all for all that bleeding heart liberal environmentally climate change stuff. I recycle, i keep a compost heap in my garden, i am not using weed killer or any chemical furtilizer, i buy organic food preferably from local farmers, and i keep a large vegetable garden. I am using my bike instead of my car whenever i can.

I even worked for Greenpeace once.

But i refuse, yes, refuse, to use current light saving bulbs. They are ugly. they are emitting bad light. And they are hazardous for your health if they break inside your home due to the mercury in them. As regular light bulbs are being phased out now, i have stocked up on them, to have a supply for the future.

Also the imminent zombie outbreak will start from light saving bulbs, but luckily i won't be infected.
(, Wed 10 Nov 2010, 10:22, 24 replies)
Hang on
You refuse to use them, yet you have stocked up on them to have a supply for the future?
(, Wed 10 Nov 2010, 10:29, closed)

Arggg. Edit. Thanks. :-)
(, Wed 10 Nov 2010, 10:43, closed)
I say
What about halogen bulbs?
They say they're between 30% (regular ones) and 50% (electronic ballast thingamajig) more efficient than regular bulbs. They also work with dimmers.
(, Wed 10 Nov 2010, 11:09, closed)
If efficiency is based on equivalent light output
Then why do people replace their regular light fitting with 8 50W halogens set in the ceiling?
(, Wed 10 Nov 2010, 12:00, closed)
May stilll
cause zombie outbreak though.
(, Wed 10 Nov 2010, 23:08, closed)
That does sound a bit 'Daily Mail Reader'
They're not ugly, you can have them in any shape you like including those candle shaped ones and ye olde bulb shape.
I don't know what bad light is, something to do with cricket. If you mean colour, then CFLs are available in various hues, usually depiceted with a colour temperature ranging from 2700K (yellowish light) to 6000K (quite blue).
THere is about 5mg of mercury in a CFL, which although is toxic, is such a tiny amount as to be harmless. If you drop it, by the time you've got your dustpan and brush, the mercury will have dissipated anyway. Also, the burning of enough coal to keep your incandescent bulb lit for the same lifetime will release about 10 times as much mercury into the atmosphere.

Finally, how long have you worked with or shopped under the glow of fluorescent tubes/strip lighting? It's the same thing just a different shape.

/rant
(, Wed 10 Nov 2010, 12:20, closed)

Actually no, you have to ventilate the room for half an hour before entering and cleaning, you are not allowed to use a brush or dustpan, but a piece of cardboard that you have to get rid of the same way as the pieces, in a special container. And you can't throw the bulbs in with your regular garbage. Again you have to get rid of them in a special container at the recycling place. I am sorry, but something like that doesn't get in my bedroom.

And they are ugly, yes they are. :-)
(, Wed 10 Nov 2010, 13:10, closed)
I have a special container for broken ones!
It's the same place I put my cardboard. It's the fecking bin.
(, Wed 10 Nov 2010, 13:43, closed)

Well, then you are doing it wrong. :-)
(, Wed 10 Nov 2010, 14:39, closed)
^This^

(, Wed 10 Nov 2010, 14:02, closed)
Zombies are shit and can fuck right off

(, Wed 10 Nov 2010, 12:53, closed)
this

(, Wed 10 Nov 2010, 12:59, closed)
Yeah, but
try telling them that.
(, Wed 10 Nov 2010, 14:43, closed)
"bad light", eh?
I hear the photons have little skull-and-crossbow badges both for (a) identification purposes, and (b) being extra scary.
(, Wed 10 Nov 2010, 13:45, closed)

isn't that a really crap American beer?
(, Wed 10 Nov 2010, 14:20, closed)
Some people are having reactions to the light emitted by these new fangled bulbs.
I too prefer the original ones. The energy savings ones are indeed ugly and glow funny.
(, Wed 10 Nov 2010, 15:01, closed)
Yeah i prefer the more cosy
light emitted by the old bulbs but on the other side of the coin, been in my house for 3 years and didn't change the energy savers that were there for god knows how long and they are still going strong. Shame about the light and the amount of time it takes to reach full glow...
(, Wed 10 Nov 2010, 16:48, closed)
yeah
but arc lamps/ gaslight/ oil lamps/ candles/ firelight/ sun+moonlight/ pre-nuclear glow of a coalescing solar-sytem all looked better too.
(, Thu 11 Nov 2010, 10:07, closed)
LED's are the future
It's what they're installing in all the modern buildings. Flat as you like, nothing toxic, use a fraction of the power and can be ultra bright or any colour you want. Also practically impossible to break.
(, Wed 10 Nov 2010, 14:30, closed)

excactly :-)
(, Wed 10 Nov 2010, 14:41, closed)
^ this
CFLs are just a stopgap. A few years ago I refused to use them as they emitted 'brown' light, they took so long to warm up, and they got very dull after a while.

To be fair, recently they've become much better, especially if you avoid the 10p Tesco ones. Start up is instant and they warm up to full brightness in a few seconds.

In a few years I expect I'll be putting LEDs into all of my fittings though.
(, Wed 10 Nov 2010, 21:35, closed)
Light saving bulbs?
So, dark bulbs?
(, Wed 10 Nov 2010, 22:24, closed)
Incandescent bulbs are better for the environment than compact fluorescent bulbs
In my limited experience, at least.

I have a dimmer switch on my lounge lights. I shopped around for CF bulbs supposedly compatible with dimmer switches. Compared to incandescents, they cost a bleedin' fortune. All three blew inside six months. The three replacement bulbs also blew inside six months. The incandescents I replaced those with haven't blown in two years. Which is better? Not chucking mercury-stuffed CF bulbs into the "recycling" (if you believe my local council actually recycles instead of mixing all the rubbish together once the dustcarts are out of sight of the taxpayers then I've got a bridge I'd like to sell you) and basking in the smug glow of doing the "right" thing, or using supposedly planet-raping incandescents which haven't produced any additional rubbish in two years and have burned one - count it - one more lump of coal than the CF bulbs would have done?

CF bulbs are a scam, pure and simple. They're rammed with toxic materials, and cost far, far more than they would ever save on one's electricity bill. Perhaps incandescents aren't the most efficient method of lighting, but they're nowhere near as harmful as the pieces of crap trotted out to replace them.
(, Thu 11 Nov 2010, 3:08, closed)
Dynamo
Didn't use energy saving lightbulbs




And he lived in the future.
(, Thu 11 Nov 2010, 10:33, closed)

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