Lack of creepiness
I had a very good friend who died rather horribly in a freak accident. She was on her own at the time so we never found out exactly how it happened - all a bit of a mystery; a very distressing mystery.

I couldn't go to her funeral, but at the memorial service some months later I met her father for the first time. He's apparently a well-known medium or spiritualist, active in England. I won't give his name. He was a very nice bloke, and seemed surprisingly unaffected by his daugher's recent death. He happily told me about her life, including some things I didn't know about her, and then moved on to his job, some of the people he'd helped and his regular contacts with the spirit world.

I don't believe in spiritualism, although it may act as some kind of therapy for some people. I couldn't resist asking the question: had he tried to contact his daugher? Had he managed to talk to her? He looked at me for a long time without talking: not angry, just staring unblinking at me. "I can't do it", he said, and turned away.

It was one of the saddest things I've ever experienced. To this day I don't know if he meant he'd tried contact her but couldn't, or that he couldn't even try. I got the feeling that deep down he knew it wouldn't work and so hadn't tried to do it, but that he couldn't admit that to me or even to himself. Worse, I think, would have been if he'd relayed some message from her to me. I'm glad it wasn't that creepy.
(Smale is stuffed, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 12:48, 16 replies)

Dissapointing really
Sad story. But if I had the ability to contact the dead and lost a loved one. I'd like to be able to say hello to them still by using my medium powers.

So yeah, either he tried and couldnt do it. Which left him sad. Or he's a fraud. If she had died in a freak accident. Then she probably wouldnt have had such closure as an old person dieing of old age. Therefore, according to the spirituality stuff. She should have been in a lower astral plane more suseptable (cant spell that one) to communication through mediums etc.
(Boom- Clicks on NSFW links at work., Wed 13 Apr 2011, 12:56, closed)

He's either a fraud or needs medication.
People only talk to "the dead" in fiction. I hope the fraudulent manipulative cunt felt some of the hurt that the people he conned would if they knew he was a piece of shit conman.
(Me, I'm not... in any way intoxicated, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 18:47, closed)

Well clearly he's a fraud
the question is whether he realises that or not. I got the impression that he believed what he did was real, and he obviously felt like he was helping people. It's not like he's made a load of money out of it. He's just deluded I suppose. And yes he must have realised the truth of this when he couldn't 'talk' to his daughter, or couldn't even bring himself to try.
(Smale is stuffed, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 20:26, closed)

He meant that it's impossible to defraud yourself.

( Enzyme is powered by sunlight, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 12:59, closed)

^

( emvee cruor deo cruoris, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:16, closed)

I agree
and I wonder if his sadness was at this self-knowledge, and what it meant about the rest of his life, or that he wasn't that self-aware and just sad that he couldn't contact her.
(Smale is stuffed, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:20, closed)

I think you're taking him too seriously.
Of course he knows he's a fraud (whoever he is). That's all there is.

If he's trying to make you sympathetic to him because he's unable to defraud himself - and you can no more do that than you can steal from yourself - then he's doubly a fraud. And if you give him even the benefit of the doubt, you're being very foolish.
( Enzyme is powered by sunlight, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:33, closed)

But you can still cheat yourself, right?
I mean, that's what I was always taught at school when doing tests.
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:38, closed)

if it was derek acorah i suspect the spirits he's actually in contact with come in a bottle marked 'smirnoff'

( janet aylia y'all motherfuckers need jesus, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:05, closed)

I liked it when he got possessed by a 16th C Jamaican sailor and attacked Yvette Fielding.
Personally I wouldn't mind having a crack at Yvey, but not enough to warrant dressing up as a camp spastic possessed by some vaguely historical pastiche of a yardie to do so, I'd say.
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:28, closed)

i liked that whoever he was possessed by was always a horny squire/blacksmith/footman with a boob fetish.
which meant he could twitch and leer at yvette's norks while bellowing 'YOUR BREASTS' at her. silly old alky fraud.
( janet aylia y'all motherfuckers need jesus, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:56, closed)

Hahahaha
I wouldn't mind bellowing "YOUR BREASTS" at her, either, now you've suggested it.

I think I've missed my calling, somewhat ironically.
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 13:59, closed)

it's not too late for you to become a fraudulent tv psychic.
silver coiffed hair? check.
drink problem? check.
incredible charisma? oh. sorry.
( janet aylia y'all motherfuckers need jesus, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 14:03, closed)

Possessed by a horny squire/blacksmith/footman with a boob fetish ... with a scouse accent. Spooky.
(DBS, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 14:44, closed)

Charlie Brooker once said
"When it comes to psychics, my stance is hardcore: they must die alone in windowless cells"

article here..http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2006/dec/04/television.comment
(sittingduck Attention seeking, bullshitting fuck-knuckle, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 14:21, closed)

Hahahahaha Charlie Brooker's ace.

( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Wed 13 Apr 2011, 14:42, closed)