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Moon Monkey says: Turn into Jeremy Clarkson for a moment, and tell us about the things that are so obviously wrong with the world, and how they should be fixed. Extra points for ludicrous over-simplification, blatant mis-representation, and humourous knob-gags.

(, Thu 22 Sep 2011, 12:53)
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Political correct wankers
Who accuse you of being 'racist' when you point out the faults of a religion, such as militant Islam.

Punishment: Sent to deepest, darkest Somalia where they can point out the merits of living under such a lawless, backward, poverty-ridden, religiously dominant area.
(, Wed 28 Sep 2011, 9:39, 33 replies)
But it is racist
when you pick out militant Islam specifically and don't apply the same logic to other militant religions.

I have no problem with tearing religion to shreds in all it's forms, but picking on just the one is racist.

Also: 'sand monkeys'.
(, Wed 28 Sep 2011, 9:42, closed)
No it is not....
For starters he has only given militant Islam as an example, and secondly, how can giving an example of a religious faction be construed as discriminating on the grounds of race? It's twats like you I believe he is referring to here.
(, Wed 28 Sep 2011, 9:50, closed)
and thirdly
he called them 'sand monkeys'


www.b3ta.com/questions/fixtheworld/post1370565


Although I will concede the point that there is a difference between race and religion that I wasn't addressing.
(, Wed 28 Sep 2011, 9:53, closed)
erm...
get your facts right, that was a different member altogether.

'(Que?, Wed 28 Sep 2011, 2:25, Ignore, Reply, I like this!)'

^ Que NOT me....

/sigh
(, Wed 28 Sep 2011, 10:02, closed)
I know who posted what, You posted a reply to Que saying you'd clicked it
and I assumed that this post above was a direct reaction to that statement.

If I was wrong, I apologise.


/fucking sigh
(, Wed 28 Sep 2011, 10:03, closed)
Hmm...
See your point - that post was pretty fucking dire. Apologies..
(, Wed 28 Sep 2011, 10:06, closed)
No harm done.
I mean, you correctly identified that I can, indeed, be a twat...
(, Wed 28 Sep 2011, 10:09, closed)
It's all good
No offence to anyone, I abhor racism, but I also abhor the militant political correct types who endorse censorship just for having an opinion.
(, Wed 28 Sep 2011, 10:11, closed)
Indeed.
Sikh's , buddists, hindu's, christians can all be militant.

But i'm pretty sure using an example of sending someone to the deepest, darket part of the Vatican city or Tibet doesn't quite have the same ring, no?
(, Wed 28 Sep 2011, 10:04, closed)
Militant Budhists
Really? How fucked up is that?
(, Wed 28 Sep 2011, 11:07, closed)
Sikh's , buddists, hindu's
SHU'T UP.
(, Wed 28 Sep 2011, 12:45, closed)

In fairness the Sikhs carry a knife at all times. Not really militant, but they're tooled up for it.

Militant Hindus and Buddhists? When? Where?

My wife is a cow hugger and the only thing that riles her to violence is when I drop my guts next to her during her One Tree Hill time and walk off.
(, Wed 28 Sep 2011, 16:38, closed)
It's more the reference to "sand monkeys" that I perceived to be racist.
Quite a lot of Muslims are caucasian, black, asian, &c, &c.
(, Wed 28 Sep 2011, 9:54, closed)
I didn't call anyone a sand monkey
That's racist!
(, Wed 28 Sep 2011, 10:05, closed)
No, but your OP was in response to our calling Que racist because of it.

(, Wed 28 Sep 2011, 10:06, closed)
No
I clicked it, not because I liked his post, but because in this day and age you WILL get called a bigot for pointing out the faults of certain religions, yet it's rather par for the course to insult Christianity at every other moment.

My point isn't aimed at Islam at all, but at the reactionary fuckwits who can't differentiate between racism and criticism of the above.

Y'see. I'm not trying to be arsey, just making a point.
(, Wed 28 Sep 2011, 10:09, closed)
That's a valid argument.
Not one that I agree with, but it's a debate to be had.

But you may have chosen a better post to state you liked to make that point, as you are fairly fundamentally undermined by the 'sand monkey' thing, whether you like it or not.
(, Wed 28 Sep 2011, 10:11, closed)
I guess so.

(, Wed 28 Sep 2011, 10:13, closed)
Hmmm.
Que's use of the term, and thus the post, was racist, due to the use of the term "sand monkeys".

You appear to endorse this, or at the very least, publically overlook it in favour of endorsing his point about Islam.

That seems disagreeable to me, as I don't condone racism in any form, even if - I would even hazard especially if - it precludes a larger point I agree with.
(, Wed 28 Sep 2011, 10:23, closed)
fair enough
I think.... What my point is... Is... why it is socially acceptable to rip into Christianity and offend Christians, but any mention of offending Islam and suddenly you're worse than Hitler?

I guess I shouldn't have *clicked* Que's post, but some parts I agreed with, although not the racist elements. I wasn't very clear in my post, and being honest yesterday I had a nasty debate with some self-righteous, politically correct types who can't see past their own opinions and jumped down my throat simply because I made a very passive comment about fundamentalism. Next time I'll explain myself slightly better.

Peace all.
(, Wed 28 Sep 2011, 10:28, closed)
I absolutely agree about religion, particularly Islam.
My objection is specifically that Islam is not a race, and to link it to such disingenuous at the very least.
(, Wed 28 Sep 2011, 10:37, closed)
Actually
I think that was me using a blunt argument to make a point when I should have been more careful with how I phrased things.
(, Wed 28 Sep 2011, 10:39, closed)
No no - it was what I objected to in Que's post.

(, Wed 28 Sep 2011, 10:46, closed)
Ah, I see.
It's just I know that I did it in my first reply above.
(, Wed 28 Sep 2011, 10:49, closed)
No, you just endorsed it.

(, Wed 28 Sep 2011, 10:10, closed)
Endorsed what?
political correct wankers or militant Islam or racism?
(, Wed 28 Sep 2011, 10:11, closed)
Don't worry
I wrote that before the other parts of the conversation above took place, I think it's been addressed.
(, Wed 28 Sep 2011, 10:15, closed)
*spits on hand*
*Offers hand as a handshake.*
(, Wed 28 Sep 2011, 10:20, closed)
Accepts handshake
*wipes hands on trousers and looks around for handwash*
(, Wed 28 Sep 2011, 10:22, closed)
Having not seen the original post......
I have an image of a small happy little simian dancing across the dunes when I hear the term Sand Monkey....or is it just some kind of dissapointing shrimp creature like those bloody Sea Monkeys I bought when I was little. I'd get pretty militant if that was the case.
(, Wed 28 Sep 2011, 13:10, closed)
Yes
I'm quite aware. And once again, I didn't call anyone that.
(, Wed 28 Sep 2011, 10:13, closed)
Yeah well if you like it so much, why don't you go and live there?

(, Wed 28 Sep 2011, 11:28, closed)
So your story is....
Wait, what?
(, Wed 28 Sep 2011, 11:47, closed)

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