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Sorry, that thread has gone a bit dead...
I watched Charlie Brooker's Review of 2010 last night. I was worried marriage would dull his bile ridden rants, but I'm happy to see that this is not the case.
One of the things he mentioned in his review was some of the good TV from last year, including Sherlock, a series I found to be fucking excellent.
So, I ask you this, what is the best series you've ever seen? Mine is either
Hitler, The Rise Of Evil or
Jekyll.
Alt Q: What series do you hate, that others seem to adore? Mine is The Mighty Boosh, load of shite it is.
Also, I've found the female Lab
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Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:08,
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I thought his Review was lacking a bit
he's definitely gone a bit damp squibbish since that grobbling little article in the Guardian.
No idea what my favourite series is. Supernatural always stands a rewatch though.
Alt Q: I really and truly haven't figured out the fuss over The Inbetweeners. Pure, unmitigated dross
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Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:12,
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I agree, Inbetweeners is utter shit.
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Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:16,
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Which grobbling little article?
Alt Q: What does grobbling mean?
EDIT: According to Urban Dictionary: "Mixture of grappling and groping. Groping using your whole body"
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TheColonel, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:49,
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I thought I had made grobbling up
it seemed to express it precisely- a cross between measely, grovelling and flimsy.
www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/2010/oct/16/charlie-brooker-leaving-screen-burn?INTCMP=SRCHHis choice not to continue on (and in lots of way very admirable.) He's still pouring out the same old watered down pulp though
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Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:58,
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The Wire is the best
I hate 24, CSI, Angel and Buffy.
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SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:12,
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Angel and Buffy have featured nearly all of my favourite women between the 2 series
I think they're fucking superb.
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Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:17,
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Regardless of clunge content the programmes themselves were bollocks imo.
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SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:24,
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Alt: Coronation Street.
I hate it with a passion even though I haven't been subjected to an episode since I lived at home and my mum was an avid viewer.
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Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:16,
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I'm fortunate to have only ever watched one episode in my life.
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Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:17,
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You're bloody lucky then.
Unmitigated shite that it is. A street populated by 'strong, feisty non nonsense wimmin' and blokes who are either effete, hapless and slightly in touch with their feminine sides (but not enough to be considered as strong and feisty and no nonsense), or utter bastards.
Utter fucking wank.
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Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:20,
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Don't sit on the fence about this Pa
tell us what you really think
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TGB checking Off Topic is still shit at, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:33,
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It's what gay men think 'ordinary life' is about.
And not a darkie in sight, either.
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Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:35,
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hahaha
roll on March :)
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TGB checking Off Topic is still shit at, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:36,
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This reminds me of an episode I saw of QAF
when all the gay men are in the straight pub and wondering if this is what real life is like
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Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:43,
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I also find it quite incredible
that a programme which was created by a raving bumder, has a massive following of the Crow persuasion, and of which a significant proportion of writers were also good with colours, took over 35 years to actually introduce a character who's sexual preferences were, quite frankly, horrifically perverse to you and me but which, nevertheless in an enlightened world, should be afforded some publicity in a modern drama serial.
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Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:49,
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I've never seen any Coronation Street
Having grown up in a house without television. I assume you're talking about the well-know 'Corrie' character Scotty McWeeber who was a scat-fetishist with tendencies towards furrie-bukkake?
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Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:52,
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I don't know the names.
I just got a general gist of some storylines due to working in offices with an off-kilter woman to man employment ratio.
"Eeh, that new lad in Corrie's a poof, ye knaa"
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Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:54,
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I made Scotty McWeeber up :(*
*I sincerely hope anyway
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Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:55,
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Dr. Who, obviously.
Alt: Friends and Sex and The City can fuck the fuck right fucking off, wanky, spacktarded drivel that they are.
EDIT: Also, Glee.
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BelladonnaAnodyne Melissa's gonna wet herself, I swear..., Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:16,
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Oh my "boss" was saying how there was a series he wanted to watch
about a chemist who ends up having to make crack to support his family... something bad... I think.. I want to see that
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TGB checking Off Topic is still shit at, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:20,
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Breaking Bad
Haven't seen it yet, but it's on my to-buy list
Edit: HMV tells me it's £11 for the first season which is 7 episodes.
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Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:21,
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ooh thanks personal shopper!
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TGB checking Off Topic is still shit at, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:36,
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you're welcome
when I get my new card I'm going to buy it
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Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:38,
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Best series?
House of Cards
To Play the King
Final Cut
Or, more lightheaertedly, take your pick from
Auf Wiedersehen Pet
Minder
The Professionals
Alt: Anything with Nick Berry in it.
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JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:21,
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The Professionals was great
as was The Man from U.N.C.L.E
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Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:23,
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It always annoyed me I could never remeber what U.N.C.L.E stood for
(I have googled it so don't bother United Network Command for Law and Enforcement.)
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TGB checking Off Topic is still shit at, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:31,
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My uncle stood for the rights of the workers
and a free and democratic workplace decision making process. Because he was a shop steward.
/may be a lie.
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Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:38,
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It's basically 'The John Lewis Story'
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Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:44,
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Auf Wiedersehen, Pet still holds up well today, imo.
I got the box set last Christmas and it's still bloody funny.
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Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:27,
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I've got them all too.
The newer ones didn't work as well as the two original series, but they are still watchable.
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JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:28,
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Indeed.
I never did see the final hurrah, though, the one without Bomber in it.
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Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:30,
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Apart from the obvious choice for me...
The most enjoyable series of late was Life on Mars / Ashes to Ashes.
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Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:28,
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I gave that to my mother
it's her new favourite programme- she watched the whole of Life on Mars over Christmas
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Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:29,
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It's one of the few series I can watch over and over and not get tired of it.
Plus Gene Hunt is one of the best characters of the last 20 years.
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Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:33,
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is Ashes to Ashes worth the watch?
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Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:39,
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Yeah, it's good.
The first series is a bit hit or miss in places, probably because it was following on from Mars and Keeley Hawes' character doesn't quite work. The second series is much, much better, and the third quite dark but ties all the loose ends up really well.
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Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:40,
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£34.99!
I think I'll wait a bit for that
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Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:42,
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Is that the 3rd series?
You should be able to get it for around £13 in Asda, or from Play.com - I ordered my copy last week.
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Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:44,
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Cheers- £9 from play.com
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Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:48,
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Bollocks, it's gone down since last week.
:(
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Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:50,
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Best:
Shogun, Monkey!, The World At War, all Terry Jones' history series, A Bit of Fry & Laurie, The Front Line (Jeff, remember that?), Supergran, Love Thy Neighbour.
Worst: everything else. Load of old fucking shit.
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Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:28,
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Supergran was shit.
Monkey, on the other hand... we got a burned copy of the whole series just before Christmas. Unfortunately our DVD player is playing up a bit at the moment so haven't been able to watch it as the disks keep sticking. I must rectify this when I get my redundancy.
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Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:32,
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That the one with the guy with the stick?
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TGB checking Off Topic is still shit at, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:34,
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Erm, yes, sort of.
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Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:36,
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and the cloud?
Magic growing stick (which sounds dirty)
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TGB checking Off Topic is still shit at, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:37,
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Yes.
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Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:38,
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*is tempted to just keep asking random questions*
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TGB checking Off Topic is still shit at, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:39,
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Why?
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Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:41,
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because I miss you?
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TGB checking Off Topic is still shit at, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:46,
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Because it's just an echo from your ladyparts?
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Bazongaloid, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:47,
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Aw, bless you.
Nevermind, Al kept the sofa warm for you at the weekend.
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Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:50,
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I never did
It was your mrs that was farting, I didn't fart at all until I got back into the car, I was a model guest.
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Bazongaloid, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:54,
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You were.
You played with the dog and ate all your food and brought us wine. You can visit again.
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Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:59,
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Woooo!
I'm going to hold you to that.
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Bazongaloid, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 18:02,
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It's a mythologised telling
of how Buddhism got from India to China - and also a kind of Eastern Pilgrim's Progress. The things that the characters learn on their journey are more important than the mission itself (to bring sacred scrolls to China). At the end of the book (it's a C15th novel by Cheng'en Wu) they open the scrolls and find they are blank.
WOOO. BUDDHIST OR WHAT, DUDE?
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Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:41,
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Don't bother with episodes after about no.20
They changed the Pigsy actor to a much shitter fellow - you could tell their hearts weren't in it by then. Best episode is the first one.
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Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:38,
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It just brings back warm memories of Friday nights on BBC2.
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Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:39,
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...and the crushing disappointment
when you realised it was Tales of The Water Margin and not Monkey that was on.
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Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:42,
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I never fell into that trap
because I could read and would consult the TV listings in a bid to avoid being terribly upset that Monkey wasn't on.
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Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:43,
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But you would have got to watch Crackerjack
And there was still one of
The Sweeney
The Gentle Touch
CATS Eyes
or Dempsey and Makepeace to look forward to.
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JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:44,
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Man I love The Sweeney,
A mate of mine got hold of the incidental music on vinyl, the record is called 'Gotcha!' and is sho'nuff fonky.
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Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:45,
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The closing theme to The Sweeney is one of the most depressing bits of music ever.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fspz4PTEpy0
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JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:47,
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That mournful oboe.
More distressing than than the closing theme to The Incredible Hulk, even.
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Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:48,
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You can add the closing theme to
Prisoner Cell Block H to the list as well.
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JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:51,
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The Prisoner was good
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Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:52,
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you are right about this
I was quite obsessed by it when I was about 16
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Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:59,
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It was fucking brilliant.
As were The Persuaders and The Saint.
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Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 18:05,
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Nothing is more distressing than 'The Lonely Man' (as the closing theme to the Hulk was called).
Apart from James Blunt shoehorning it into the introductory bars of his seminal pop hit 'You're Beautiful'.
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Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:52,
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One of my father's finest hours
was when he denounced Stu Francis to be 'a simpering berk'.
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Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:51,
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Oooh. I could rip a tissue.
You're right though. The bloke was (and probably remains) a cock.
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JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:52,
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The Front Line?
Was that the one with the Eddie Grant theme tune?
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JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:33,
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Actually it was by Black Roots.
I know this because I have spent 20 years trying to get hold of a video or DVD of that series, and all I've got is the theme tune on vinyl SO FAR.
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Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:39,
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Love Thy Neighbour was great too.
Remember 'Mind your langugage?'
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JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:42,
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My brother has a DVD
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Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:43,
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They are all on YouTube
It's fantastic, should you fancy laughing at a bit of casual racism.
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JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:44,
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This is Monty we're talking about, here...
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Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:45,
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Are you suggesting he uploaded them?
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JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:46,
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Yeah Jeff.
I take my racism VERY SERIOUSLY INDEED.
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Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:46,
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Any other shows from 'back when telly was good' you have a fondness for?
'Kickstart' in the school holidays was always watchable.
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JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:49,
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BMX Beat with Gary Crowley.
My mate Craig won it, and got given the trophy by Gaz Top:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTcJ1v3sHWA
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Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 18:02,
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Oddly.
Sometime host of BMX Beat, Andy ruffell went on to 'create' the MOBO awards.
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JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 18:04,
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That is indeed odd.
Craig Campbell is now an alcoholic.
TRUFAX
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Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 18:06,
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You might want to check my Andy Ruffell fact, I think someone told it to me, so it might be bollocks?
So, the fame of BMX Beat proved to be the downfall of Craig? How very very sad.
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JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 18:08,
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Hm.
I'm loving Big Bang Theory at the moment.
I absolutely hate and detest soaps but there is a special bucket o'bile for Eastenders.
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porkylips looks better as the sun goes down., Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:37,
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I think the only show i've ever followed with more than half hearted enthusiasm
Was Buffy. Oh and Being Human, which I enjoy but isn't brain-bendingly amazing. Sherlock was pretty good but I missed the last episode. Alt - I will never, ever understand anyone who avidly watches any of the soaps. I hate them and they are shit without exception. Friends can fuck off and all.
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berk, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:41,
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soaps are just too much effort
3 times a week?! fuck that shite
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Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:47,
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oh Being Human, I wanted to watch that but never got around to it
Now, ScyFy in America is advertising the "Original Series Being Human" with actors that are not actually in the real original series
what a load of cock, it's not their original series, twats
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Lisette von Falcon, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:54,
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dr who, blake's 7, all that lovely sci fi nonsense
recently I watched almost all the Misfits episodes in a couple of days, I thought they were most excellent and silly
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Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:45,
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Blake's 7 was quite good.
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Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:47,
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No it wasn't.
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JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:48,
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Yes it was.
EDIT what are you doing still on the internet?
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Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:49,
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have you kicked him off again?
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Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:49,
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Am I still barred?
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JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:50,
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Yes.
OUT. NOW.
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Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 18:03,
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Ooow, can't I stay up a bit later?
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JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 18:07,
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You always wet the bed when we let you watch Minder.
BED - NOW.
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Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 18:08,
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I don't know why I'm laughing so much at this.
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JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 18:11,
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no, it was very good
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Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:49,
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ooo! brasseye, Jam, Greenwing, NIghty night
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Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:51,
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First two I entirely agree with.
Also series 2 of Partridge, The Day Today and Saturday Night Armistice.
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Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 18:03,
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I am quite distressed how often you've agreed with me on things
I need to reassess my life
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Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 18:10,
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I got the full 7 series of Men Behaving Badly for Christmas.
(Well technically 6, as the first series is wank),
It's stood the test of time quite well.
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TheColonel, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:51,
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When you say it's stood the test of time quite well.
Do you mean 'It's still shit?'
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JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:53,
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No, I mean I still find parts of it as funny as when it was first on television.
Admittedly, there was a lot of shit in it, but there were some good parts.
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TheColonel, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:56,
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It's one of the shittest shows of all time.
Hope this helps x
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Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 18:04,
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The lager mitt was, I think, the funniest thing on that show, other than Lesley Ash's face.
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Bazongaloid, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 18:04,
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^this
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Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:57,
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I think one of the best so far has been Boardwalk Empire.
Alt: CSI. God, I hate CSI, CSI New York, Miami, Alaska, whereverfuckingelse.
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Lisette von Falcon, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 17:52,
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It's fucking shit, Krizzle.
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Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 18:04,
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Word Montizzle
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Bazongaloid, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 18:05,
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*fist bumps*
I'm Audi, yo.
See yaaaaa......
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Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 18:07,
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Would have been better if CSI had actually stood for 'Cum Sluts International'
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Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Tue 11 Jan 2011, 18:07,
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fuck yeah, i'd watch that
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Lisette von Falcon, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 18:08,
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i watched CSI Wales today
well, I watched a bunch of students look at a crime scene set up with dummies and fake blood. That's about the same, right?
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Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 18:08,
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hahahaha
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Lisette von Falcon, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 18:08,
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Nobody will agree... But.
Good.
One Foot In The Grave. Nighty Night. The League of Gentlemen. American Dad. Shameless. Skins
Bad.
Loads. Particularly American comedies. Maybe not Will and Grace or Friends when there's nothing on.
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GeordieJay Bummers are deaf, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 18:07,
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OK, yes, definitely yes, meh, not seen, YUCK
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Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 18:08,
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friends
is
so
shit
I'm actually looking forward to the american version of skins
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Lisette von Falcon, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 18:09,
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of that list
Nighty Night and The League of Gentlemen are okay. Will and Grace is shitter even than Friends though
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Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 18:14,
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