Let's all have a heated debate
*turns up heater*

'Those who can do, those who can't teach' George Bernard Shaw

Discuss.
( chickenlady b3ta's very own Elizabeth Taylor, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 15:43, 115 replies, latest was 15 years ago)

Javelin.

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 15:46, Reply)

Shotput

( chickenlady b3ta's very own Elizabeth Taylor, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 15:53, Reply)

Pole vault

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 15:57, Reply)

Long jump

( chickenlady b3ta's very own Elizabeth Taylor, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 15:57, Reply)

Hurdles

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:00, Reply)

Hammers

( chickenlady b3ta's very own Elizabeth Taylor, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:04, Reply)

Steeplechase

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:06, Reply)

4 x 100m relay

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:07, Reply)

Triple jumps

( chickenlady b3ta's very own Elizabeth Taylor, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:08, Reply)

I don't get it.

(PsychoChomp, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:10, Reply)

that's because you are an internet fatty who never did sportsday

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:13, Reply)

I heard his mom wrote him excuse notes...
Saying he was allergic to grass
(The Archduke of South London I'm in your Girlfriend eating her organs, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:21, Reply)

Glastonbury line up
www.glastonburyfestivals.co.uk/
People can moan about that.

Also teachers are idiots, kids are shit and you get paid crap for long hours what kind of person wants that job?
(PsychoChomp, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 15:47, Reply)

Have you heard anything about Glasto tickets yet?

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 15:48, Reply)

Nah, I didn't get those unfortunatly.
Resale is on sunday I'll get them then. DEFINATLY GET THEM THEN
(PsychoChomp, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 15:49, Reply)

Sonisphere has a fantastic lineup this year, best I've ever seen from any festival.
For my music, anyway.
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 15:49, Reply)

I'm annoyed at missing the sunday
but pleased that Gojira and Sisters of Mercy are playing on the Saturday.
(Bazongaloid, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 15:54, Reply)

teachers are idiots?
just how did you get to be where you are today?
( Lisette von Falcon, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 15:57, Reply)

By listening to idiots obviously.

(PsychoChomp, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 15:58, Reply)

I don't understand your question
I feel stupid.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 14 Apr 2011, 15:48, Reply)

C&P
"Popular wisdom has it that "Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach," implying that people with real practical skills are out doing constructive things, while those who can't cut it in the "real world" find a less demanding refuge in teaching."
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 15:52, Reply)

"...and those who can't teach, teach teachers" so I'm reliably informed

(Reverend Fister "a disciplined fuckwit", Thu 14 Apr 2011, 15:57, Reply)

This is true. Teaching - the only job where you're promoted if you're crap
( chickenlady b3ta's very own Elizabeth Taylor, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:05, Reply)

Certainly true

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:08, Reply)

Are you kidding?
You've obviously never worked in IT. It's not quite as bad as it used to be, but when I started out all managers were incompetent fuckwits - usually with massive personality defects. Thankfully most of them are retired now, but there's still one or two of them blundering about.
(Reverend Fister "a disciplined fuckwit", Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:08, Reply)

My Dad was a teacher, and a damn good one at that (so I've been told)
After seeing the amount of work he put in pretty much every night, I can't help but get wound up at those who say teachers have it easy. He used his holidays to spend time with us kids, as he barely got weekends through his time teaching.

Yes, there are those who do nothing but pull exercises out of textbooks, but I don't think they deserve to be teachers.
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 15:49, Reply)

Some of my son's high school teachers are absolutely stunning
His French and English teachers are top notch. Teachers never looked like that when I was a lad.

Sorry, what was the question again?
(Reverend Fister "a disciplined fuckwit", Thu 14 Apr 2011, 15:54, Reply)

This^
My teachers were all about 50
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:01, Reply)

This is very true.
As is evidenced by the shocking attitude and shitness of teachers. Moaning about not getting payrises despite record levels of investment.

Fucking striking all the time.

Like the fucking nurses. Don't like the health reforms because it will mean you have to take the initiative you have been asking for forever but now don't want because you will have to front up and take some responsibility?
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 15:54, Reply)

Well done for innacurately oversimplifying the Tories plans on NHS reform.

(Bazongaloid, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:00, Reply)

Thanks very much.
I know it was an oversimplification, just ranting like.
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:02, Reply)

It is often a fall back career when people fail in the "real world"
not always obviously
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 15:54, Reply)

Those who can't be bothered
administrate.
(wellgroomedwookiee is a filthy-minded hobgoblin, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 15:56, Reply)

*lazy fist bump*
Wait for it...
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:02, Reply)

... DAIRY!

( TGB checking Off Topic is still shit at, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:15, Reply)

Mrs Cow is an IT teacher
The job is a lot harder than most people think. Lots of work to do in your own time, etc.
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 15:56, Reply)

You only work til 15.15!
And don't start until 08.40!
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 15:57, Reply)

Untrue
Pre school meetings, post school detentions, after school clubs, meetings
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:00, Reply)

Must take you through to 17.30 or so.
Hold on.....that's how long the rest of us work.
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:03, Reply)

Do teachers get detention these days?
Back when I was a lad, it was just the pupils who got made to stay behind.
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:05, Reply)

9 weeks off in the summer
4 at Christmas and 3/4 at Easter, it is a tough life
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:05, Reply)

We get evenings, the good teachers often don't.
Same with weekends.
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:07, Reply)

My bestie works her arse off.
I've seen even the least dedicated teachers I've known working twelve-hour days and 50% of their holiday time marking, reviewing and planning. I couldn't do it, I simply couldn't.
( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:14, Reply)

That's 17 weeks a year!
Which is 6 months!
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:07, Reply)

No it's not.
26 weeks is 6 months.
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:09, Reply)

I had a rubbish maths teacher!

(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:09, Reply)

Those computers won't switch themselves off and back on again on their own.

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 15:58, Reply)

That is my job!

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:00, Reply)

like any other jobs, some are crap, some are great
My other half's a teacher and he says that 90% of the complaints he gets about kids behaviour come from the same two teachers, which says more about the staff than it does the kids.
(DeeDee, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 15:57, Reply)

With a sliiiiiiight twist
I'd be happy to do several people, who, to the best of my knowledge, can't teach. However this would mean leaving out Ola Jordan and Kristina Rihanoff who most assuredly can, and that would be a shame.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 15:57, Reply)

two of my teachers married students I graduated with

( Lisette von Falcon, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:03, Reply)

Fucking Jersey perverts

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:05, Reply)

right!
one student was our class president, he sold a blunt to my mate on graduation night and we all partied in a hotel
teacher included
( Lisette von Falcon, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:07, Reply)

You live in a strange world
Then again I went to bording school from age six to eighteen, which probably seems pretty odd to you.
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:18, Reply)

Whereabouts?
I went to one in Yorkshire. It was bleak.
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:21, Reply)

Buckinghamshire and Oxford
Fucking loved it, but then i love being buggered
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:21, Reply)

I liked school.
Yorkshire was bleak.

I am indifferent to buggery.
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:22, Reply)

Ooooh, which Bucks one was it?

( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:22, Reply)

Caldicott; channel 4 did a program about three boys who were buggered there in the 70's, good times
Nick Clegg went there as well
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:31, Reply)

I live in the town the county was named after
so if you'd have said "Stowe" I coulda said I can see bits of it if I walk five minutes from my flat, you ruiner.
( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:38, Reply)

I've been to Stowe many times
Beautiful grounds, horrific bullying and a massive drugs problem. Thats the countryside for you.

EDIT: school above is prep anyway not public school
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:40, Reply)

I took Poppet round there in December when it was frozen solid.
Totally fucking magical. I grew up there and it was nice to see it from an outsider's eyes.
( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:43, Reply)

I do like the follys
Also they were fucking shit at sport
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:44, Reply)

why would that seem odd? plenty of people go to bording schools
we have one here as well
I was meant to go if the drive by shootings continued, but they didn't
( Lisette von Falcon, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:23, Reply)

I always think of them as a quintiessentially English phenonenom

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:32, Reply)

I always think of US boarding schools being like Military Academy from Bill and Ted

(Bazongaloid, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:35, Reply)

I can't remember what that's like?
Did it have blazers, rugger and a old alcoholic teachers?
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:37, Reply)

yeh, we've sort of got that sort where I live
a lot of asains there
( Lisette von Falcon, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:41, Reply)

Hang about
Ms Foxtrot is a dance teacher now. I can assure you she both can, and yet also teaches. She'd be an amateur dancer of some renown if it weren't for her useless, unenthusiastic partner holding her back.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:08, Reply)

her partner should let her go then

( Lisette von Falcon, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:09, Reply)

It's not REAL teaching though, is it?
You haven't got to be clever or anyfink.
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:10, Reply)

*explodes with incandescent rage*
Yes. Yes you have.

I should stress she's a Ballroom teacher, which is the most technically complex kind of dancing I've ever come across. It's not like teaching Salsa, anyone can do that.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:13, Reply)

I couldn't
I promise you that
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:14, Reply)

I shall revise
Anyone with a modicum of dancing experience will find Salsa very, very easy. Very little technique, just lots of wiggling and arm leads. Piece of fucking piss.

We're going to a competition at DisneyLand Paris in December which is (slightly dubiously) dubbed the World Championships. We're going to enter the Salsa category just to see if I can become World Champion of a dance I don't even like.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:18, Reply)

*crosses fingers*

(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:20, Reply)

My hips wouldn't wiggle even if I wanted them to, i thought only girl hips wiggled
biology innit
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:20, Reply)

Nah mate
They way it works is, you settle your weight over one hip as you stand on it, then bend the knee as you transfer the weight across. Repeat. Now you're gay.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:23, Reply)

they wiggle back and forth when you're doing the sex, no?
or are you the sort that just lays there?
lazy
( Lisette von Falcon, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:25, Reply)

They thrust back and forth
This is not the same as dancing unless you're pervert
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:36, Reply)

you said your hips wouldn't wiggle even if you wanted them to
thrusting and wiggling aren't far off
( Lisette von Falcon, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:42, Reply)

Not that side to side or figure of eight kind of way

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:46, Reply)

could still be considered dancing though

( Lisette von Falcon, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:52, Reply)

Why not go on "So you think You Can Dance"?
Which appears to have a budget of 10p
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:21, Reply)

Sadly I am both too old and too crap
Everyone on that show has been dancing since they could stand. I keep encouraging my friend Lauren to go on it, as she's been dancing since she could stand. And is REALLY hot
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:22, Reply)

Sounds much like how I dance anyway.

( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:22, Reply)

I dance by standing at the bar drinking and occasionally nodding my head

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:47, Reply)

Actually, you're right, this sounds much more like how I dance.

( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:56, Reply)

*is satisfied with rage response*
I cannot salsa.
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:14, Reply)

+, prissy madam of a

(Reverend Fister "a disciplined fuckwit", Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:11, Reply)

Oh YOU

(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:19, Reply)

* flounces off home *

(Reverend Fister "a disciplined fuckwit", Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:34, Reply)

I have massive respect for a fair few of my teachers through my school years
and my best friend is a primary school teacher and one of the most wonderfully gifted people I could hope to meet. I considered becoming a KS1 teacher for a good six months but without a degree it would have meant an awful lot of hassle, money and change. I'm looking for TA jobs now as I'd certainly like to be involved in the environment. It's probably true - I appear to be shit at everything else but it's a fact I've always got on with kids.
( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:12, Reply)

out a degree my 15" black rubber dildo
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:14, Reply)

I'm utterly sure this makes no sense whatsoever.
Edit: you editing slag.
( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:15, Reply)

*snigger*

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:22, Reply)

it's called the foundation phase/stage now.
KS1 is dead...
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:24, Reply)

This was five years ago.
I dig kids at that age, they're fun and haven't had all the wonder of discovery hammered out of them by capitalism and reality.
( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:25, Reply)

they are short and annoying.

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:28, Reply)

Now I know for sure that you know EXACTLY what to do to captivate and encourage them to learn interesting shit.
People don't sit around cutting out dinosaur flash cards for nothing.
( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:32, Reply)

true

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:49, Reply)

That's what I thought
until I had to try to stop a full on punch up in a Y2 class.
They're six and seven years old FFS! Most of them were on Ritalin. Truly fucked up.
That was the last time I taught in a school :/
( chickenlady b3ta's very own Elizabeth Taylor, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:29, Reply)

Hmm, I'll be honest here, I think I'm lucky enough to live in an area when most year one and two kids are pretty chilled out.

( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:30, Reply)

Also, hiya wonderful lady!
Did PJM have a good birthday?
( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:31, Reply)

He did, ta.
Did you see the pics I posted on Arsebook last night? We got him a couple of packets of goggly eyes. Best laugh we've had in Aaaagggeeees!
( chickenlady b3ta's very own Elizabeth Taylor, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:35, Reply)

Ah, I spent most of the night *trying* to sleep, although I saw the thumbnails on my phone at one point.
*goes to see*
( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:39, Reply)

Haha the boys look brilliant!

( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:42, Reply)

They are around here, mostly
I was doing some supply teaching in one of the worst schools in the area. All the usual tick boxes for deprivation and societies ills.
Deeply depressing to know that at the age of five or six they're disappointed with life.

And that's why I now teach undergrads. And I can swear in front of them too.
( chickenlady b3ta's very own Elizabeth Taylor, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:34, Reply)

Holla atcha girlfriend
What do you teach those lazy soap dodging students?
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:36, Reply)

Very little...
in an English department.
( chickenlady b3ta's very own Elizabeth Taylor, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 17:19, Reply)

waking the dead is quite good.
that is all.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:22, Reply)

+n

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:23, Reply)

ha ha ha ha ah

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:23, Reply)

I knew that would happen, and I knew it would be you.
You gaylord.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:24, Reply)

Did you watch the film that was on last night
'Gaylords say 'no'?'
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:25, Reply)

yes twice and I loved it.

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:26, Reply)