*chokes back car rant*

( Kroney, Tue 3 May 2011, 16:05, 1 reply, 15 years ago)

Don't.
Listen to your heart.
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Tue 3 May 2011, 16:20, Reply)

I have a problem with devices designed to remove direct driver control
from a vehicle made from a ton of metal propelled by the constant explosions of the volatile, flammable liquid it carries directly underneath the human occupants.
( Kroney, Tue 3 May 2011, 16:33, Reply)

Would you like the advance and retard control returned to the driver?
Retard.
( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Tue 3 May 2011, 16:38, Reply)

I was being facetious
but anybody that can't cope with a clutch shouldn't be allowed to drive.
( Kroney, Tue 3 May 2011, 16:39, Reply)

But, when driving in a city for a long time
it's considerably easier to drive an automatic.
(Bazongaloid, Tue 3 May 2011, 16:43, Reply)

I guess my main problem is not the existence of the technology as such
but the reasons behind people employing them. My grandfather had a dodgy knee and needed an auto in order to drive for example. There are people on the road, however, who use an automatic because they simply can't work out how to use a clutch.

I tend to generalise.
( Kroney, Tue 3 May 2011, 16:46, Reply)

then i suppose your grandfather shouldn't have been driving

( Lisette von Falcon, Tue 3 May 2011, 16:49, Reply)

You missed the point.

( Kroney, Tue 3 May 2011, 16:49, Reply)

oh I see your points
your original point was that anybody that can't cope with a clutch shouldn't drive
but now it's that those that don't understand how to work a clutch shouldn't drive
( Lisette von Falcon, Tue 3 May 2011, 16:51, Reply)

Yeah, I went in head first without really thinking it through.
Which is usually how people do it without airbags.

This is the trouble with making throwaway comments that you then feel you have to defend.
( Kroney, Tue 3 May 2011, 16:54, Reply)

fucking futuristic technology
anyway, i see your point about automatic drivers being able to pay less attention to the road
and where as i know how to drive a manual, it makes me nervous and i think i'm safer with an automatic
( Lisette von Falcon, Tue 3 May 2011, 16:57, Reply)

I use the clutch and the gears to control the car.
I wouldn't like to have that level of control taken away from me and automatics make me nervous, not because they exist, but because there are people on the road who use them because they can't mentally cope with operating a clutch.

I hope that's a little clearer.
( Kroney, Tue 3 May 2011, 17:00, Reply)

Actually it's not any clearer, because it's the same shit you've already written, and I think it's stupid.
I think that people that drive clutches are actually more dangerous because they think they're race car drivers and like to show off, a bit like all those 4x4s that wreck in the winter
( Lisette von Falcon, Tue 3 May 2011, 17:04, Reply)

No I agree,
Your position is much less stupid.
( Kroney, Tue 3 May 2011, 17:04, Reply)

i knew you would think its stupid but i dont care
you don't live where I live, its like the fucking fast and the furiious here
( Lisette von Falcon, Tue 3 May 2011, 17:09, Reply)

I've driven in the States and Canada on holidays and visits here and there.

( Kroney, Tue 3 May 2011, 17:12, Reply)

okay, that has nothing to do with what i said
Its incredibly unlikely that you've driven where I am
( Lisette von Falcon, Tue 3 May 2011, 17:14, Reply)

Quite possibly, I have no idea where you are.

( Kroney, Tue 3 May 2011, 17:18, Reply)

I find that if you have a cheap automatic
the engine won't drop down gears quickly enough if you suddenly need more power when pulling off up a hill, but expensive automatics are normally okay.
(Bazongaloid, Tue 3 May 2011, 17:04, Reply)

Incidentally
"Can't cope with" and "don't understand how it works" are two expressions I used to mean the same thing.
( Kroney, Tue 3 May 2011, 16:58, Reply)

I have found that in excess of 70% of all generalisations are bullshit.

(Bazongaloid, Tue 3 May 2011, 16:50, Reply)

This could be vastly improved by everyone being able to select their second choice of generalisation.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 3 May 2011, 16:52, Reply)

yes, and people with disabilities shouldn't be able to reproduce

( Lisette von Falcon, Tue 3 May 2011, 16:43, Reply)

Glad we're on the same page.
Is it Straw Man Tuesday today?
( Kroney, Tue 3 May 2011, 16:44, Reply)

+ of mein kampf

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 3 May 2011, 16:47, Reply)

I don't like them
because it makes me think the driver is simple and is not paying attention.
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Tue 3 May 2011, 16:39, Reply)

My main issue is with people too daft to drive
without automatic gearing, parking sensors etc. If they need those things to control the vehicle, they should never have been allowed on the road.
( Kroney, Tue 3 May 2011, 16:44, Reply)

I fucking love parking sensors
but since my van doesn't have them, I use the bumpers for their intended purpose.
(Bazongaloid, Tue 3 May 2011, 16:50, Reply)

you drive a van?

( Lisette von Falcon, Tue 3 May 2011, 16:54, Reply)

Have you seen Ice Road Truckers?
It's nothing like that.
( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Tue 3 May 2011, 16:56, Reply)

Did you see the one where IRT did the world's most dangerous roads?
One of them was crying in fear at one point. Pansy.
( Kroney, Tue 3 May 2011, 16:57, Reply)

I wouldn't want to drive in those conditions.
One flake of snow amd I'm fucked.
( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Tue 3 May 2011, 17:05, Reply)

Yes
It's a small white one.
(Bazongaloid, Tue 3 May 2011, 17:00, Reply)

And you still can't park it properly

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 3 May 2011, 17:04, Reply)

I can, but it's difficult to judge the distance to the back of a van
since you don't have rear-view mirrors. So what I do is, I get the engine revving really fast, and then I slam it into reverse and wait for the sickening crunch as I slam a small child against the car or wall behind me. Then I pull forward about a foot or two.
(Bazongaloid, Tue 3 May 2011, 17:08, Reply)

Perfect, children don't dent much

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 3 May 2011, 17:11, Reply)

if you ever ever bumped your van
into the bumpers on my merc, i'd......

well, i'd show you some "intended purpose".
( rachelswipe with a fork, Tue 3 May 2011, 17:12, Reply)