So you're okay with some addictive drugs being legalised
ones in which you frequently partake yourself, but you object to others being legalised, despite the fact that abuse of alcohol is generally much more damaging physically than abuse of anything else? And that rehabilitation programmes such as treatment with methadone have been shown to be ineffective in a large percentage of cases?

Legalise them, tax them and above all educate people about them. Even if it was legal and of high quality I'd still have zero desire to try heroin/crack etc because I'm aware of the inherent risks.

Also, why have you been banned for buying meds which you have a prescription for...?
(berk, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 14:15, 3 replies, latest was 15 years ago)

meow!

( Lisette von Falcon, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 14:22, Reply)

No, not at all, I'm saying that I have no idea what the solution is.
Different drugs are different, a sollution to one is not nesserarly a sollution to another. However, you can regulate that, you can say no to "Drug A" and yes to "Drug B".... BUT, different people are different too, but you can't regulate that, you can't say yes to "Person A" without saying yes to "Person B".

Maybe, possibly, just as an idea, you could have a whole new specification of job, something that doesn't exist currently, that gives you permmision/access to gain a cirtain drug. Like a cross between a bar-tender, doctor, counciler and phamacist. WIth technology, you can make sure that someone has to be registered for them. This way, the person can say to them, "Look, I got a crack habbit, I take 3 rocks a day, I'm going to get these anyway so I might as well get them from you where they're safe.... Ok, here is 20 rocks for this week, 19 for the next...and so on" or someone can say "I'm going on a night out, I want an E.... ok, now I know it does this to me, I still want it, but only once this month".
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 14:23, Reply)

With the solphadeen it was 'cus I went into a boots and bought one and then bought another packet about 6 weeks later and the guy recongises me.
But he's actually well known in the area of being a cock, from when I used to work in the cab firm.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 14:28, Reply)

It's not the legality that stops me taking heroine
it's knowing what it might do to me, am I wrong to think others are the same? I suppose easier availability might get a few more users, but people actually knowing what they were taking would have to mean a few less deaths...
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Thu 7 Jul 2011, 14:30, Reply)

Part of me would love to try it, if I could get my hands on medical grade stuff
I mean, there's a reason people are addicted, right: it must feel fucking awesome. But I just don't trust myself to try it, knowing what it can do.
(berk, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 14:32, Reply)

I have a plan to try it one day
If I am ever old, rich end lacking in relatives who care enough, it's the addiction that scares me most as I know I have an addictive personality.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Thu 7 Jul 2011, 14:35, Reply)

Yeah', exactly, every drug has a possitive effect, it's just weather that negates the negitives.
If you could take it, and then later on take something that'll instantlly get rid of any phsyical or phsycological addiction.... then I'd love to try it.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 14:40, Reply)

Exactly
I don't want to take ecstasy because you feel worse the next day. I rarely get hangovers so I drink way more than I should and should really cut back but its enjoyable so I do it.
( Peej, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 14:42, Reply)

Ecstasy has got to be the worst drugfun to comedown ratio I've ever experienced
I mean, it was alright, and it was free, but it surely as fucking hell was not worth feeling like Satan's sludgy arse-scrapings for the following 48 hours.
(berk, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 14:53, Reply)

What was the best?
X is still my drug of choice, mainly because I can't afford coke on a regular basis and am generally unfussed about experimenting with new substances nowadays.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 15:00, Reply)

Speed, without a shadow of a doubt
I've never tried to source it again for fear I might find it incredible easy to get hold of and develop a Problem.
(berk, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 15:51, Reply)

An ex addict once told me
that shooting up is like a flock of sparrows flying up your arse backwards.
( Peej, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 14:40, Reply)

That sounds remarkably similar to something I once read in a book of old Scots quotes
but pertaining to orgasms. If memory recalls, it was along the lines of 'somethin' gann'ed up ma back like a flicht o' swallies and I met the blessed angels'
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Thu 7 Jul 2011, 14:44, Reply)

Oh yes, deffo, but there are 100,000's of people who take it, and there must be a reason why they took it in the first place.
This kind of drug-dealer as I mentioned above would be able to limit down the amount of drug taken to help people get off it, or people who insist on having it to have it safely within the realms of limitation. Nobody, I think, takes it for the first time in their right mind, most people who I know who have taken it claim they were drugged or douped into taking it on their first go. So if you had never taken the stuff and did went to this kind of dealer, they could say "Why are you taking it? OK, you want effects ABC.... try this instead".
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 14:38, Reply)

Our experiences differ.
The people I know who've done drugs have chosen to do them for pleasure, and the two I've ever tried (weed & speed) I did out of curiosity, one I liked, one I didn't and never did again.

Tobacco is the only thing I started on by accident, I got hooked from smoking it in joints and it took a very long time to get clear of the addiction, if indeed I have.

Oh, and if we're including legal drugs, alcohol was choice and non addictive, I'd less soon give up chocolate or cheese.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Thu 7 Jul 2011, 14:43, Reply)

I'm unsure about the legalize and tax route
Because I do know people that when they have been at their lowest may very well have smoked crack if it had been available in the shops but instead went to the Doctors and got sorted.
( Peej, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 14:39, Reply)

Ah but now, see
there would/could never, ever be a system where you could just nip in to Boots and get a dose of crystal meth or whatever. That would be horribly wrong.
(berk, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 14:42, Reply)

How would they tax it then?

( Peej, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 14:43, Reply)

Well yes, there would be places where you could legally buy drugs
but you couldn't just wander in and buy them; as Gonz says, you'd have to have some kind of assessment first. You couldn't have a system where some 21 yr old office flunky who's had a bad day thinks 'a glass of wine just won't cut it this evening: tonight I'm going to try smack instead.'
(berk, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 14:45, Reply)

I like the system Portugal has. It seems to be working too.

( Peej, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 14:55, Reply)

Diving and crying like a girl whenever an opposition player comes near you can only take a team so far

(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 15:03, Reply)