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(, Sun 1 Apr 2001, 1:00)
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Let's talk about drugs. It's fair to say the War On Drugs isn't working, that something at the core ethos of drug control needs to be changed. Do you do any sort of drug reguarly? I think, looking at alchole and ciggerettes, and the amount of how many clinicly addicted people there are, that legalising of other addictive drugs isn't the awnser. They're cramping down on codine based OTT products, I've been banned from a few phamacists even though it's part of my regular drug regime and have showed them proof... so I just make sure I don't get banned from other places by buying from different ones each week. I think it would be worst for a stronger drug, such as Morphine.
But saying that, what's currently going on doesn't really work eaither. There are ways of getting Control Drugs too, such as the fact that you can get prescriptions online in the UK (never done it, but would like to try it, to see the process work or not, but wouldn't risk it in case they speak to my GP and I get banned).
Do you take drugs reguarly? My story with drugs is pretty much the same as the TV show 'House'. What's you view on the whole thing?
(, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 13:54, 171 replies, latest was 15 years ago)
but the Pharmacist said a Jewish guy had just bought the entire stock of everything
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While making sure everyone had as much accurate information as to the potential risks as possible.
I don't ready do drugs, I'll smoke weed if offered but I don't buy it and I drink occasionally, but that's it.
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I used to smoke a lot of weed and I suspect it has fucked my memory a bit if I'm honest, but everyone has a different experience.
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My back is fucked at the moment so my quack gave me shed loads of 25mg codine. Plus a couple of months of Amyltriptelene which makes me sleepy.
I couldn't function without them.
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There has been times where I can't work out how I got home
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I don't take it often, but when I do it does the trick. A friend of mine who never takes painkillers 'borrowed' one once, and was bouncing off the fucking ceiling.
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It's like an instant addiction. The stuff makes you feel so warm and nice, it's an amazing feeling, until eventually you realise that it's causing you so many problems which causes you to take more and so on.
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I wasn't bouncing, but I was far more spaced out than I've ever been when smoking weed.
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I can't compare it to weed, as I've never tried that, but it was bloody good stuff.
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I have to have it while I'm driving home, otherwise I sleep in in the morning. Can't dring when I take them either, which is a bummer.
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You need to go to a small one and talk to them about your needs and then deal with the same people all the time.
(, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 14:06, Reply)
As for me, cocodamol is about the only thing that cures a hangover these days. Hope that doesn't end up on a list of controlled substances.
(, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 14:06, Reply)
And so I would steal my mom's pain pills, in order to get that fix.
That slowed into taking allergy pills. And then eventually I didn't take anything.
Now the only drugs I take are ibuprophen or acetaminophen.
But I plan to steal one of my roommates pain pills next month for when I go to the orthodontist.
(, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 14:07, Reply)
Also I wouldn't take it before your treatment, only after.
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taking effective painkillers before the procedure would be beneficial, as it will give you a head start on the painkilling. Sort of why they suggest taking a painkiller before you wax your legs, for example.
(, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 14:28, Reply)
Because, I typically can handle the pain, but this next time they're taking all the brackets off and scraping all the glue off using THIS and putting all new brackets back on and new wires
I'm going to die.
(, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 14:33, Reply)
because doctors need to know what's in your body before in case anything goes wrong, and you become unconsious.
(, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 14:59, Reply)
and anyway, paracetamol, literally, doesn't touch it
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They're all like "oh, you might need to take a motrin later! ha! ha!" and I'm all, motrin? ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING IT FEELS LIKE MY JAW IS IN A VICE, LIKE YOU'RE RIPPING OUT EVERY ONE OF MY TEETH! WOULD YOU RECCOMEND MOTRIN TO SOMEONE THAT'S HAD THEIR ARM CUT OFF? I DON'T THINKS SO!
(, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 14:16, Reply)
it works a lot better for bone pain than you'd think.
(, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 14:23, Reply)
when it feels like someone is hammering a nail through your tooth, it doesn't fucking touch it
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I replied "no, unless you count amino acid supplements - L-Tyrosine and the like" which he was understandably disinterested in. Then I mentioned St John's Wort and he was all concerned. Am I missing something?
(, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 14:10, Reply)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_John's_wort#Adverse_effects_and_drug_interactions
Bascially take it and certain types of happy pills and it can kill you
(, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 14:12, Reply)
if you took a fuckload of ecstasy it would effect the drugs you were pescribed and St Johns Wort can cause the same thing.
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I can't take St John's Wort becaus eof the happy pills I am on. It doesn't make for a great combination.
(, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 14:19, Reply)
What drugs should I avoid around the August Bank holiday weekend?
(, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 14:20, Reply)
unless you come off the SJW a good week or so before.
(, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 14:30, Reply)
it's going to do bugger all even if you cane it Monty-style. Are you taking it because you're on a veggie diet or because you believe the mumbo-jumbo on the back of the pill bottle?
(, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 14:35, Reply)
A friend of mine recommended it as a good way to assist in putting on muscle through weightlifting, a conversation which came about as a result of my bemoaning the lack of protein in my mostly vegetarian diet
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I daresay enough St John's Wort could make you go a bit floopy
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SJW is mild at best and quite possibly totally useless.
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Crocodile meat is mild but can kill you when not detatched from the crocodile before you eat it
(, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 14:18, Reply)
But does it actually do anything? I took it for a while but the effects were so weak it might as well have been a placebo.
(, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 14:21, Reply)
Just not very well.
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But yeah, it's not an antidepressant by any means
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Prozak didn't do much for me either TBH, maybe I'm just a bit immune to happy pills.
(, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 14:27, Reply)
If that doesn't sort you out, sell your body to science and use the resulting cheque to buy happiness
(, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 14:30, Reply)
I'm over my depression (fingers crossed) and I have no desire to burn out the pleasure centres of my brain thank you. I'll stick to the simple things that make me happy, like bicycles and food and sex.
(, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 14:33, Reply)
I am genuinely impressed. Not least with your ability to shag whilst eating on a bike.
(, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 14:34, Reply)
Best to start with a tandem, you ride 'Stoker' while your good lady is 'Captain' then you can slip it in when she stands up on the pedals on a particularly steep climb. If you time it right you can reach simultaneous orgasm at the summit and then coast down the other side in post-coital bliss.
(, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 14:39, Reply)
That I'd never thought of it until now but the details came together in my mind about as quickly as I could type them. This should tell you something about the way my mind works.
(, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 14:45, Reply)
What on earth drew you to this gentle forum I'll never know
(, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 14:47, Reply)
I liked it here and thought I would fit in. Seems to be going well so far.
Edit: www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBhTIoIXoTI
nice to see my memory holds good.
(, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 14:52, Reply)
I knew what that link would be but it's lost none of its appeal.
(, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 14:58, Reply)
That's an inspiring mission statement right there.
(, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 15:01, Reply)
and if you behave your self I might introuce you to it one day. *waggles eyebrows suggestively*
(, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 15:07, Reply)
but it may affect the way the prescription drugs work.
At least, that is what the industry-agreed warning states...
(, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 14:28, Reply)
ones in which you frequently partake yourself, but you object to others being legalised, despite the fact that abuse of alcohol is generally much more damaging physically than abuse of anything else? And that rehabilitation programmes such as treatment with methadone have been shown to be ineffective in a large percentage of cases?
Legalise them, tax them and above all educate people about them. Even if it was legal and of high quality I'd still have zero desire to try heroin/crack etc because I'm aware of the inherent risks.
Also, why have you been banned for buying meds which you have a prescription for...?
(, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 14:15, Reply)
Different drugs are different, a sollution to one is not nesserarly a sollution to another. However, you can regulate that, you can say no to "Drug A" and yes to "Drug B".... BUT, different people are different too, but you can't regulate that, you can't say yes to "Person A" without saying yes to "Person B".
Maybe, possibly, just as an idea, you could have a whole new specification of job, something that doesn't exist currently, that gives you permmision/access to gain a cirtain drug. Like a cross between a bar-tender, doctor, counciler and phamacist. WIth technology, you can make sure that someone has to be registered for them. This way, the person can say to them, "Look, I got a crack habbit, I take 3 rocks a day, I'm going to get these anyway so I might as well get them from you where they're safe.... Ok, here is 20 rocks for this week, 19 for the next...and so on" or someone can say "I'm going on a night out, I want an E.... ok, now I know it does this to me, I still want it, but only once this month".
(, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 14:23, Reply)
But he's actually well known in the area of being a cock, from when I used to work in the cab firm.
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it's knowing what it might do to me, am I wrong to think others are the same? I suppose easier availability might get a few more users, but people actually knowing what they were taking would have to mean a few less deaths...
(, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 14:30, Reply)
I mean, there's a reason people are addicted, right: it must feel fucking awesome. But I just don't trust myself to try it, knowing what it can do.
(, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 14:32, Reply)
If I am ever old, rich end lacking in relatives who care enough, it's the addiction that scares me most as I know I have an addictive personality.
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If you could take it, and then later on take something that'll instantlly get rid of any phsyical or phsycological addiction.... then I'd love to try it.
(, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 14:40, Reply)
I don't want to take ecstasy because you feel worse the next day. I rarely get hangovers so I drink way more than I should and should really cut back but its enjoyable so I do it.
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I mean, it was alright, and it was free, but it surely as fucking hell was not worth feeling like Satan's sludgy arse-scrapings for the following 48 hours.
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X is still my drug of choice, mainly because I can't afford coke on a regular basis and am generally unfussed about experimenting with new substances nowadays.
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I've never tried to source it again for fear I might find it incredible easy to get hold of and develop a Problem.
(, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 15:51, Reply)
that shooting up is like a flock of sparrows flying up your arse backwards.
(, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 14:40, Reply)
but pertaining to orgasms. If memory recalls, it was along the lines of 'somethin' gann'ed up ma back like a flicht o' swallies and I met the blessed angels'
(, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 14:44, Reply)
This kind of drug-dealer as I mentioned above would be able to limit down the amount of drug taken to help people get off it, or people who insist on having it to have it safely within the realms of limitation. Nobody, I think, takes it for the first time in their right mind, most people who I know who have taken it claim they were drugged or douped into taking it on their first go. So if you had never taken the stuff and did went to this kind of dealer, they could say "Why are you taking it? OK, you want effects ABC.... try this instead".
(, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 14:38, Reply)
The people I know who've done drugs have chosen to do them for pleasure, and the two I've ever tried (weed & speed) I did out of curiosity, one I liked, one I didn't and never did again.
Tobacco is the only thing I started on by accident, I got hooked from smoking it in joints and it took a very long time to get clear of the addiction, if indeed I have.
Oh, and if we're including legal drugs, alcohol was choice and non addictive, I'd less soon give up chocolate or cheese.
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Because I do know people that when they have been at their lowest may very well have smoked crack if it had been available in the shops but instead went to the Doctors and got sorted.
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there would/could never, ever be a system where you could just nip in to Boots and get a dose of crystal meth or whatever. That would be horribly wrong.
(, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 14:42, Reply)
but you couldn't just wander in and buy them; as Gonz says, you'd have to have some kind of assessment first. You couldn't have a system where some 21 yr old office flunky who's had a bad day thinks 'a glass of wine just won't cut it this evening: tonight I'm going to try smack instead.'
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Just a massive bra full of massive drugs
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Like those ones made from sweets.
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... and the film is named after a book written by someone who used to work in an office in something like copywriting and then quit her job after shagging everyone.
(, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 14:29, Reply)
Luckily I don't have an addictive personality. My drug of choice was amphetamines purely because as a laid back sort of character, anything that got me running around like a mad fucker, (and not eating very much), was a good thing.
But that's all in the past. There comes a time when you have to put that silliness to bed and join the rat race.
Codeine is about the only thing I partake in now, when needed of course.
(, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 14:32, Reply)
then I fell asleep.
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But that Mephedrone they banned last year had me crawling on the ceiling. Fucking great stuff.
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But I have no access to drugs in Cornwall and have never tried to seek out drugs here. I have tried lots and lots of different types of drugs when visiting friends in Reading and London but have not had access to them when I got back. This means I have never developed an addiction and could quite happily never do any drugs ever again. In fact I think there's still an eighth in my cupboard somewhere that must be over two years old now. Its probably no good.
My personal opinion is that drugs should be illegal to sell but not illegal to take. Criminalizing the bloke snorting a line of coke doesn't do anything to solve the problem of addiction and drug related crime.
Of all the drugs I have ever taken the only one that made me feel shit wasn't acid or coke but Tramdol which totally fucked my head up.
(, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 14:36, Reply)
then I slept for 17 straight hours. And no, after two years your eighth is probably knackered - it's taken me 13 months to get through mine and I can tell you that the last five or six joints have hardly been worth it.
(, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 14:43, Reply)
I'd like to interject that my fucking dishwasher takes longer to get through a cycle than I do! It's been at it for fucking ages, and it's still not finished!
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my parents never washed a dish or made a cup of tea.
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except for the following amendments
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would be more appropriate
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Waste of money, slow, and noisy. I can wash up after a roast dinner for a family of four plus two guests in less than 15 minutes.
(, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 14:45, Reply)
but once you've had one, it becomes very hard to do without. As with all luxuries, I suppose. You get used to them, and they slowly become necessities
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it was my job to loads and unload it. Then when I moved in with my aunt and uncle when I was older they had one, the idiots used to wash the dishes before they put them in so they didn't block the filter. What a waste of time, water, soap and energy.
(, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 14:50, Reply)
that would take me ages, roasting pans, saucepans for veg and gravy, chopping board, cooking utensils, 6 plates, 6 bowls, 12 glasses, pudding dish, 6 knives, 12 forks 6 spoons, 6 coffee cups, 6 teaspoons....oh god I feel weary already
(, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 14:49, Reply)
Whilst the meat is resting. That way they are still really hot and nothing has dried on to them yet. Same with saucepans, if you wash them right after you empty them it takes seconds. After I have cooked and served dinner there only the plates and glasses left to do.
(, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 14:52, Reply)
but all the cleaning too. I really should get more sexual rewards than I do!
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I missed my turn so am taking it now.
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Yes I am. Now suck me off, it's not gay to suck yourself off right?
(, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 15:07, Reply)
He'd argue that point till the cows come home.
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Unlike most right wingers I wouldn't mind legalizing drugs as it would be an extension of individual liberty and an opportunity for free market capitalism.
And have you been reading cracked.com?
(, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 15:32, Reply)
where you and I are in near total agreement.
(, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 15:36, Reply)
because alcohol and nicotine are legal is the argument of a child. I have nothing further to add as I don't really give a shit one way or t'other.
(, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 15:36, Reply)
The brandname of my new drug is almost as funny as krokodil.
It's called Dekristol.
(, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 15:43, Reply)
but my knee has just started throbbing like a bastard, and I'm going to have to can some of my horse tranquiliser pain pills, just to be able to keep walking.
I blame you, Gonz. Yes, you.
(, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 15:40, Reply)
but I'm in perfect health.
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From Oct 2010
BBC: Can lessons be learned from Portugal's drug laws?
- I'd be interested to see a follow-up!
As for myself, I suffer from CPS (Chronic Pain Syndrome) due to an old injury and a slightly bodged operation or two. CPS is what the specialists call it when they don't have a fucking clue why you are experiencing pain. I'm currently wincing my way through a 3-month no meds (other than caffeine and alcohol) period because I don't want to completely fuck my liver and kidneys with NSAIDs before my kids are old enough to become organ donors. When I'm on meds, it's a rotation of ibuprofen+codeine and paracetamol+codeine or tramadol if I can get it or diclofenac if I'm desperate because I've had some strange experiences with that.
(, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 15:43, Reply)
someone gave me a few puffs of their joint (ahem). I'm not and have never been a smoker so didn't really get the inhale bit. So all a bit pointless really.
I have been utterly off my tits on prescribed drugs though - ativan had me laughing like a loon and staggering around attempting to pull a drip trolley behind me.
Didn't really enjoy it though - more than two glasses of wine leave me shitfaced. I'm not keen on losing control to be honest.
I'd happily legalise all drugs though and ensure that people had to visit some sort of facilitator as Gonz has suggested.
(, Thu 7 Jul 2011, 15:43, Reply)
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