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(I helped save b3ta! rob, Sun 1 Apr 2001, 1:00)
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Chomp Master Flash would like his own PERFECT thread
So I'm starting another.
A girl I'm friends with has been watching Masterpiece Theatre and is chatting about how awesome it is on FB and now another girl has chimed in saying how romantic the story [Wuthering Heights] was, clearly this bitch is trippin.

What's your favorite classic book and why?

Who else is trippin?
(I helped save b3ta! Lisette von Falcon, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 19:04, 256 replies, latest was 15 years ago)
I totally deleted my thread for this it better be good

(I helped save b3ta! SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 19:07, Reply)
I forgot to put in the story they were talking about was Wuthering Heights

(I helped save b3ta! Lisette von Falcon, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 19:07, Reply)
I have never read it
I don't do love stories
(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 19:08, Reply)
it's like the fucking anti love story
it's all about propriety
(I helped save b3ta! Lisette von Falcon, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 19:09, Reply)
so I hear
still kinda like a love story, right?
(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 19:10, Reply)
eh......
there's not a whole lot of lovey shite in, it's a fuck ton of spite, hatred and cruelty
(I helped save b3ta! Lisette von Falcon, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 19:11, Reply)
I liked that book for a bit but then we had to study it in school
and that kind of killed it. Plus I have a hard time sympathising with characters that go a bit mental, this also happened with Anna Karenina.
(Zoz prayed for twink on, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 19:11, Reply)
I totally tried to reply to your thread too, by the way.
I'm going grocery shopping after work and probably cleaning.
(I helped save b3ta! Lisette von Falcon, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 19:08, Reply)
1984, I read it when I was 15/16
changed the way I thought about the world. Then read a bunch more Orwell. Later found myself living below minimum wage in Paris and, later, London. Next, aerodynamic Aspidistras

alt: Gangsters
(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 19:08, Reply)
even Eminem's into
pistol-whippin'
(Zoz prayed for twink on, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 19:09, Reply)
callin the police
WOO WOO WOO!
(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 19:10, Reply)
I don't even know what this book is about, it was in the advanced classes at school and so I didn't feel smart enough to read it

(I helped save b3ta! Lisette von Falcon, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 19:12, Reply)
1984? seriously?
just read it now. I don't think it was in our school curriculum, I was just the kind of kid who read this stuff for fun
(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 19:14, Reply)
srsly
I haven't been reading much lately, I dunno why.
(I helped save b3ta! Lisette von Falcon, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 19:15, Reply)
I should be reading more
I like reading, got the Oxford book of science fiction when I was in London for the Bash after being super excited by an exhibition in the British Library.

Summer should be for reading all the books I don't get round to the rest of the year
(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 19:17, Reply)
I read a lot more in winter.

(I helped save b3ta! Lisette von Falcon, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 19:19, Reply)
I LOVE ORWELL!!
And I don't mean the duck.
(I helped save b3ta! girlinthehole, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 20:15, Reply)
A Clergyman's Daughter
Do you think Mr Warburton shagged Dorothy?
(I helped save b3ta! The Disappointed Caravanner of the year, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 20:34, Reply)
No.
I reckon he just fingered her.
(I helped save b3ta! girlinthehole, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 20:36, Reply)
Something pushed her over the edge
Mr Warburton has a lot of explaining to do.
(I helped save b3ta! The Disappointed Caravanner of the year, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 20:39, Reply)
Let's face it, she's as frigid as a fridge in the Artic circle.
It wouldn't have needed a big push to get her there.
(I helped save b3ta! girlinthehole, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 20:45, Reply)
So you're saying it was acceptable for Mr Warburton
To get her tipsy on sherry then slip her a length? Just because she was a bit overpious.

Just having a look through the days dross to see what you underemployed folk have been getting up to today, but can't be bothered looking too hard.

Has RoboSwipe sloped off again?
(I helped save b3ta! The Disappointed Caravanner of the year, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 20:52, Reply)
No it wasn't acceptable but lets face it, it probably did her a world of good and it all turned out right in the end.
I hope she hasn't. I think she's just busy.
(I helped save b3ta! girlinthehole, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 20:56, Reply)
there are many
when I was a teen it was probably Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man. The classic I've most enjoyed recently was Crime and Punishment, I was expecting a dense slog of a book but it's really a very well paced thriller.
(Zoz prayed for twink on, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 19:16, Reply)
The only book I remember reading as a teen, because I wanted to, was Jane Eyre.
Just last year read started reading a few classics.
I'm not very good with the language, I'm rather slow interpreting actually.
I really liked the Great Gatsby.
(I helped save b3ta! Lisette von Falcon, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 19:22, Reply)
I know I have read The Great Gatsby but I can't remember any of it
It takes me ages to read a book now, like you I'm trying to get around a few more classics but it's very slow going, I only get about 20 mins most days where I'm not too wrecked to read.
(Zoz prayed for twink on, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 19:33, Reply)
Crime and Punishment is a brilliant book

(I helped save b3ta! Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 20:44, Reply)
I killed my own thread.

(I helped save b3ta! Lisette von Falcon, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 19:27, Reply)
there's not many of us
and I'm busy eating courgettes I grew all by myself :)
(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 19:28, Reply)
tasty!

(I helped save b3ta! Lisette von Falcon, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 19:32, Reply)
I had a bloody lovely dinner.
Roast chicken, salad, coleslaw and crusty tiger bread.
(I helped save b3ta! girlinthehole, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 20:16, Reply)
Curse you, BGB :(
I am still at work and this is making me every kind of ravenous.
(berk, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 20:23, Reply)
Soz!

(I helped save b3ta! girlinthehole, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 20:31, Reply)
what's tiger bread?

(I helped save b3ta! Lisette von Falcon, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 20:34, Reply)
It's white bread with sesame oil added.

(I helped save b3ta! girlinthehole, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 20:37, Reply)
sounds like a major awesome name for something not so different
it ought to at least be orange
(I helped save b3ta! Lisette von Falcon, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 20:39, Reply)
Hey girl! I didn't name it.
I just eat it.
(I helped save b3ta! girlinthehole, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 20:46, Reply)
is it tasty at least?
what's crackin' for you tonight Beej? Excited to get your hair cut?
(I helped save b3ta! Lisette von Falcon, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 20:47, Reply)
It's well tasty Kristine.
I'm excited and scared. I keep having to tell myself I'll love it : /
(I helped save b3ta! girlinthehole, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 20:49, Reply)
You're getting way more off than I did.
Hopefully your hairdresser was more skilled than mine.
(I helped save b3ta! Lisette von Falcon, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 20:50, Reply)
I miss having my short hair and this way I get both long and short.
As long as I like it I don't care what other people think.
(I helped save b3ta! girlinthehole, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 20:52, Reply)
Good on you. I've only gotten a couple of strange reactions.
One from the friend that talks over everyone. She said "UH, wha..." and looked at me sideways and I turned my head and she said it again and so I said "Yeah it's shaved there" and she just looked at me like she was going to say "DOES NOT COMPUTE"
(I helped save b3ta! Lisette von Falcon, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 20:56, Reply)
You have the crappest friends ever Kristine.

(I helped save b3ta! girlinthehole, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 20:58, Reply)
I know.
I try to think if I'm making it seem like they're shit because I'm annoyed at them. But no, they're just shit.
(I helped save b3ta! Lisette von Falcon, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:00, Reply)
But, they're not really friends, beej.
If I moved out tomorrow I would have no friends.
Other than my online chums.
Life sucks.
(I helped save b3ta! Lisette von Falcon, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:02, Reply)
*massive sadface*
You totally need to get out of that two horse town and see the world, even if it's only other parts of America to start with.
(I helped save b3ta! girlinthehole, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:05, Reply)
fuck, now I'm all depressed and shit
:'(
(I helped save b3ta! Lisette von Falcon, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:07, Reply)
Aw!! You've plenty of time.
It's never too late.
(I helped save b3ta! girlinthehole, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:08, Reply)
life is wasted
it really is
it's a rat race here, and you can't do what they show in the movies and just jet off to another country or go across the u.s. and say whatever happens happens
and that sucks

shall I just head to DC by myself tomorrow? I'll probably pussy out of it.
(I helped save b3ta! Lisette von Falcon, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:11, Reply)
No but you can slowly save and make plans.
I did it when I moved from Coventry to Manchester. Ok I did it with a friend but lots of people do. Don't ever think that your life is going to be all that it is now.
(I helped save b3ta! girlinthehole, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:15, Reply)
Argh piss fuck twat muncher
I'm all depressed now
(I helped save b3ta! Lisette von Falcon, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:17, Reply)
At least you don't have locked in syndrome

(I helped save b3ta! Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:19, Reply)
or downs syndrome

(I helped save b3ta! Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:20, Reply)
or or or
being a SCOPER
(I helped save b3ta! Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:20, Reply)
hell you aint even got pretend aids from a transexual prostitute with a big bumhole

(I helped save b3ta! Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:21, Reply)
HOW DO YOU KNOW???!!!!

(I helped save b3ta! Lisette von Falcon, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:27, Reply)
Darth isn't the only person with INFORMERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(I helped save b3ta! Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:28, Reply)
haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

(I helped save b3ta! Lisette von Falcon, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:30, Reply)
Cheer up hon!
*tickles*

Quick before chompy comes and accuses you of beakering.
(I helped save b3ta! girlinthehole, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:19, Reply)
What would you do if you went to DC?

(I helped save b3ta! The Disappointed Caravanner of the year, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:19, Reply)
go to some museums probably
Art gallery and science museum, probably ride the death on wheels metro
(I helped save b3ta! Lisette von Falcon, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:22, Reply)
do it!
then post pics!
(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:22, Reply)
I don't have a proper camera, just a video recorder

(I helped save b3ta! Lisette von Falcon, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:27, Reply)
you can take stills of that, right?
what about on your phone?
(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:28, Reply)
Oooh yeah, my phone will probably do okay.

(I helped save b3ta! Lisette von Falcon, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:31, Reply)
It'll be hot
Have you ever been to The Smithsonian?

I'd love to go there but apparently you need a few days to do it justice.
(I helped save b3ta! The Disappointed Caravanner of the year, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:25, Reply)
A long time ago I think.
I've decided I'm going to go to the National Gallery of Art and to Freer Gallery of Art [which is mainly Asian art]

I'll probably chicken out though because I'm lame and I can't do things on my own.
(I helped save b3ta! Lisette von Falcon, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:32, Reply)
I'm the same. I need someone to kick me up the arse to do stuff.
I'm a bit better than I was though.
(I helped save b3ta! girlinthehole, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:34, Reply)
don't wimp out
I've done all sorts of things by myself recently, otherwise I'd get nothing done.

today it was all about seeing a band in an art gallery and booking a tattoo. Other people can fuck off, do things you love because you love them
(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:36, Reply)
OKAY. I'm TOTALLY NOT GOING TO WIMP OUT.

(I helped save b3ta! Lisette von Falcon, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:39, Reply)
GOOD

(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:39, Reply)
Do the first thing on your own
Then it'll get easier.
(I helped save b3ta! The Disappointed Caravanner of the year, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:40, Reply)
Me too, I had scallops with a teryakki-ish maronade/sauce with a aspagous/cashewnuts/spring-onion and quite a few other bits'n'bobs.
imgb.in/8s
(I helped save b3ta! G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 20:47, Reply)
nomnomnom!

(I helped save b3ta! girlinthehole, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 20:50, Reply)
I'd tell you waht I had for tea, but I don't want to just talk about me. That would be shameful.
So I'll ask about you. How was your tea, Gonz? Was it nice? Did you cook it yourself?

How are you feeling today? Are you okay? Are you happy? Am I allowed to say I think it's wonderful about the guide dog hing, or is that still talking about me too much?
(I helped save b3ta! b3th Not shit. Not mod., Fri 22 Jul 2011, 20:52, Reply)
Take no notice of chompy.
I don't and I doubt I'm the only one.
(I helped save b3ta! girlinthehole, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 20:53, Reply)
I like hearing about you too, you don't devulge too many details, just the right amount for a public place.
I'm feeling very good thanks, I meet up with a friend who I grew up with but haven't really spoken to in years-and-years, and it was like we were kids again sharing a bath or walking to school. I'm very happy thanks, for the most part, ever so pleased with life at the moment. Thanks, the guide dog thing sounds right up my ally =D
(I helped save b3ta! G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 20:58, Reply)
Oh', missed one, yup, made it myself, only thing I didn't do was the rice, I got plane-boiled-rice from the chinese.

(I helped save b3ta! G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 20:59, Reply)
I'm not a fan of classic books, I think the only one I've enjoyed was one we did at school, "Roll of thunder, hear my cry" about life as a black woman in the 20s or whenever.

(I helped save b3ta! G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 20:49, Reply)
I love Emil Zola, and I can recomend him to anybody.
Germinal is probably my favourite, but The Beast Within is great too. They are very atmospheric, and paint the second half of the 19C french landscape like an impressionist painting.
(I helped save b3ta! Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 20:51, Reply)
Must have hurt, though, running with bare feet.

(I helped save b3ta! The Disappointed Caravanner of the year, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 20:52, Reply)
That took me far too long to get.
I ostensibly read Thérèse Raquin at uni, but I can't remember one bit of it.
(I helped save b3ta! b3th Not shit. Not mod., Fri 22 Jul 2011, 20:54, Reply)
It was all they had, what with throwing their shoes in the machines.

(I helped save b3ta! Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 20:55, Reply)
I like lots of classic books
I liked Old Goriot, Crime and Punishment and a load of other stuff. Been ages since I've read anything old though apart from a reread of Madame Bovary (which is pretty shit) in order to help my sister with her essay
(I helped save b3ta! Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 20:51, Reply)
Madame Bovary is incredibly shit.
See also Anna Karenina and Effi Briest, which are the Russian and German versions of the story respectively.

I'm trying to think of an English version of the story, but there's none coming to mind... Anyone think of any?
(I helped save b3ta! b3th Not shit. Not mod., Fri 22 Jul 2011, 20:56, Reply)
Anna Karenina is pretty good
I like Tolstoy
(I helped save b3ta! Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:01, Reply)
I read Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's Gulag Archipelago many many years ago.
I might have another bash at it. I seem to remember enjoying it.
(I helped save b3ta! girlinthehole, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:03, Reply)
One day in the life of Ivan Denisovitch can be read in one sitting if that helps.
1914, on the other hand, took me all year.
(I helped save b3ta! Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:06, Reply)
I enjoyed it but I wasn't that fond of Karenina herself as a character
Levin on the other hand was a good egg, even if he did go on a bit about novel farming methods.
(Zoz prayed for twink on, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:07, Reply)
See I'd disagree
Anna was okay. Levin was a freak.
(I helped save b3ta! Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:11, Reply)
she was a demented harpy

(Zoz prayed for twink on, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:24, Reply)
I've never read any
but that's true of many many classics

I'm better on obscure sci fi classics. I had a thing for feminist sci fi for a little while
(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:08, Reply)
I tried to read the sci fi stories of Edgar Alen Poe, I gave up after a couple of stories.
Absolute crap, not a patch on Jules Verne.
(I helped save b3ta! Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:11, Reply)
I think I've only read his horror
short stories.

I've got a big pile of John Wyndam books at the mo. I like that one overuses the word Vibrator
(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:15, Reply)
I think Orwell is as classic as I go.
I do read a lot if classic sci-fi.
(I helped save b3ta! girlinthehole, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 20:57, Reply)
H G Wells I hope.
Some of his short stories are brilliant. And I still have my school copies of the time machine and the war of the worlds.
(I helped save b3ta! Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 20:59, Reply)
you should have gone to the exhibition in london
it was WICKED cool
(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:05, Reply)
Orwell exhibition?

(I helped save b3ta! girlinthehole, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:18, Reply)
no
it was science fiction at the British Museum. Proper sci fi, none of this film nonsense. Chock full of things I'd read/wanted to read and bits about why it was important in those sub-genres (ie apocalyse, time travel, etc.)

Totally nerd-gasm
(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:24, Reply)
Is it still on?
Google says no : (
(I helped save b3ta! girlinthehole, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:25, Reply)
*googles*
YES! www.bl.uk/sciencefiction

I got mixed up with british library and museum
(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:26, Reply)
Fantastic!!
Will try when I next visit.
(I helped save b3ta! girlinthehole, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:29, Reply)
it goes right up to present-day, too
which is a change from normal things about sci fi. I read one for my thesis which was just some dude's rant about how it's just for losers and the only good sci fi is *insert a couple of examples he'd read*.

This was properly done by people who obviously love the genre without the snobbishness of traditional literary academia
(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:34, Reply)
I'm back in London in a few weeks so will try to go then.
Depends if who I'm with has been already or not.
(I helped save b3ta! girlinthehole, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:35, Reply)
Orwell certainly
Steinbeck as well, and Faulkner.

For a "will eventually be accepted into the pantheon" Sinclair Lewis and Haldor Laxness.
(I helped save b3ta! The Disappointed Caravanner of the year, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:00, Reply)
Not a fan of Faulkner or Steinbeck

(I helped save b3ta! Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:02, Reply)
Some Faulkner can be very overbearing
Try "The Rievers." That's just funny.
(I helped save b3ta! The Disappointed Caravanner of the year, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:03, Reply)
Oh yes - I've just realised what my current sig is
Flann O'Brein. Not very prolific, but very good.
(I helped save b3ta! The Disappointed Caravanner of the year, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:05, Reply)
I'll just lean against this wall for a bit.
That was one weird book. Never read anything else of his though.
(I helped save b3ta! Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:09, Reply)
Try "At Swim-Two-Birds"
That's even weirder.
(I helped save b3ta! The Disappointed Caravanner of the year, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:14, Reply)
"The Poor Mouth" is supposed to be a good one.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_B%C3%A9al_Bocht
(I helped save b3ta! The Mock TurtIe ™ --- Thinks you are a cunt, on, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:55, Reply)
One I've not read
The Dalkey Archive is great too.

Also his collections of essays for The Irish Times - as Myles NgGopleen - are worth reading.
(I helped save b3ta! The Disappointed Caravanner of the year, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:03, Reply)
There's several books that collected some of his old newspaper columns in the Irish Times.
I've got the first one ("The Best of Myles", with material from 1940-45) - it's excellent.
(I helped save b3ta! The Mock TurtIe ™ --- Thinks you are a cunt, on, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:08, Reply)
I just tried to read the Ramayana.
It didn't work that well.
I might have to buy the book and actually sit to try and read it
(I helped save b3ta! Lisette von Falcon, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:03, Reply)
I'm fairly sure they used to show a TV version of that
on Sat/Sun mornings here. I remember there were lots of silly costumes and shots of arrows flying through the air.
(Zoz prayed for twink on, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:11, Reply)
I probably never would've heard of it if it weren't for the movie The Little Princess

(I helped save b3ta! Lisette von Falcon, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:13, Reply)
That was Monkee

(I helped save b3ta! The Disappointed Caravanner of the year, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:17, Reply)
Gormanghast!

(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:10, Reply)
bless you

(Zoz prayed for twink on, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:12, Reply)
I'm following that on Radio 4 at the moment.
Not read the books though.
(I helped save b3ta! Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:13, Reply)
ooh! is that on at the moment - i might get in on that
The books are pretty dense, but that's the beauty of them, the writing feels as creaking and full of dust as the castle and its workings and traditions. Well, I reckon anyway
(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:17, Reply)
Oh yes I remember I read that too.
Took some doing though.
(I helped save b3ta! girlinthehole, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:17, Reply)
it was shitty living in London and not knowing anyone
but, damn it, I got through Gormanghast :)
(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:18, Reply)
I reckon Catch-22 is a classic.
But I remember reading And Quiet Flows the Don, by Mikhail Sholokhov which I enjoyed.
May need to hunt that one out again
(porkylips looks better as the sun goes down., Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:22, Reply)
I'd forgotten about Catch 22
Took me three reads to work out roughly what was going on.

DON'T ever attempt to read the ostensible sequel - Closing Time - which is monumentally shite.
(I helped save b3ta! The Disappointed Caravanner of the year, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:27, Reply)
Picking a favourite book is like picking a favoutite child
But I will go with Whit by Iain Banks, although I'm sure I'll change my mind, Maybe The Dispossessed by Ursula LeGuin, Oh I don't know.

Alt: Chompy
(I helped save b3ta! CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:46, Reply)
Whit may be one of the few Banks books I've not read
possibly the one I've not read. I can never remember which one's which when I get to the bookshop
(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:47, Reply)
It's good.
I don't know if I'd say great but really funny and good. Actually I've decided Time Enough for Love by Heinlien is my favourite book ever.
(I helped save b3ta! CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:58, Reply)
I've never read that Heinlien book
is it time travel? I love time travel - it's what my Phd would be on if I ever got round to applying
(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:59, Reply)
not so much
it's the oldest man alive (4000 I think) remenicing, do you know Lazerus Long as a character?
(I helped save b3ta! CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:15, Reply)
no?

(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:19, Reply)
He start off in Methuselah's Children
which is about a selective breeding experiment that starts in about 1900 to try to make long-lived humans by giving them incentives to marry each other. He's a sort of freak early product of that and lives to be at least 4000. SO he's born in maybe 1912, but life long enough to leave earth, found colonies, marry several times and have many adventures. He's a likable if rather right-wing (this is hienlien after all) character. he does get involved in time travel and alternate universes in later books, but mostly as a perifferal character. WHat has you read of hienlien?
(I helped save b3ta! CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:26, Reply)
Stranger in a strange land
and someone's Farm, I think that was him, can't find the book right now
(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:32, Reply)
Farnham's freehold.
Stranger is good, it made me cry at the end. Damn it this threat is making me want to re-read too much stuff. I don't know how much I'd recommend his stuff, I read and loved it as a teenager, so my judgement is skewed.
(I helped save b3ta! CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:35, Reply)
I liked stranger
but I think it was while I'd been reading lots of Octavia Butler/JOanna Russ type stuff and I got annoyed that all the female characters were 1 dimensional
(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:37, Reply)
Yes, this is one of the ways in which he is indefencible
So I won't try. It has a place in my heart, but I hesitate to recomend it.
(I helped save b3ta! CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:39, Reply)
I haven't read a lot of her work.
Doesn't she do quite epic sci fi stories?
(I helped save b3ta! girlinthehole, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:48, Reply)
Some of them are really good
The Earthsea Quartet was decent enough fantasy though apparently she regretted it in later years. The Left Hand of Darkness is seminal in some aspects though again she regretted bits of it later
(I helped save b3ta! Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:50, Reply)
Earthsea was dull
I got a few chapters in and just left it, couldn't be arsed to pick it up again
(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:51, Reply)
I very rarely not finish a book
Earthsea was good, definitely one of the better examples of fantasy I think. The reason she regretted it was she felt it betrayed her feminist ideals
(I helped save b3ta! Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:53, Reply)
better examples of fantasy??!
hell no, there are far better things than that.

I used to always finish books, but then I realised I could be reading better things. Doesn't happen often, I have to be pretty cross/bored with them.
(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:56, Reply)
I read really fast
so most standard sized books will take me a couple of hours.

There's better stuff, but especially for children it's an excellent introduction
(I helped save b3ta! Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:57, Reply)
like Anne McCaffrey
I wish I'd read them when I was 10, then I'd like them rather than feeling patronised
(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:00, Reply)
I liked her when I was about nine
then I realised that she was misogynistic, boring and just fundamentally a poor writer
(I helped save b3ta! Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:01, Reply)
the problem with hanging around with other role players
is people make you read terrible fantasy books.

On the other hand, George RR Martin
(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:03, Reply)
Meh never been much of a fan of him myself

(I helped save b3ta! Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:06, Reply)
I liked Armageddon Rag
which wasn't really fantasy, not read any more of his.

Which reminds me best under appreciated book ever is Wrack and Roll by Bradly Denton.
(I helped save b3ta! CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:08, Reply)
not heard of that
why is it great and underappreciated?
(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:09, Reply)
it's about an alternate timeline
where a sort or punk evolved in the second world war, or just after, it's very 1980s and it about how rock music will save the world. you'd probably hate it, most people do, but I love it and wish it was true.

www.trashfiction.co.uk/wrack_and_roll.html
(I helped save b3ta! CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:13, Reply)
hehe
sounds fun - is it like that bizzaro sci-fi? I bought my friend that one about a universe of Shatners (the same person who wrote the gorilla/shatner porn)
(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:16, Reply)
all these words are english, but at the same time....
I don't know, realistically it's naive 80s trash, but I like the idea that music, especially rock, has power, hence Armageddon Rag.
(I helped save b3ta! CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:21, Reply)
there's a sub-genre of sci fi
which is all about the ridiculous, trashy and downright fucked up.
www.amazon.co.uk/Shatnerquake-Jeff-Burk/dp/1933929820/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1311369816&sr=1-1

The shatner porn is something I posted the other day
(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:23, Reply)
missed that.
glad I think.
(I helped save b3ta! CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:27, Reply)
i could link it?

(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:38, Reply)
Shatner porn?
is it as disturbing as the cat thing?
(I helped save b3ta! CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:47, Reply)
you decide
www.b3ta.com/questions/offtopic/post1286254
(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:50, Reply)
Ha ha!
substitute 15 for 9 and I'm agreeing with you again on that one.
(I helped save b3ta! CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:03, Reply)
I don't like the big sprawling sci fi sagas that go on for several books.
I prefer the more intimate stories.
(I helped save b3ta! girlinthehole, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:53, Reply)
I kind of like big stories
but it's annoying when they crash and burn - Peter F Hamilton's Night's Dawn Trilogy was gripping and brilliant until the last 20 pages at which point it suddenly became the biggest disappointment ever.

Littler sci fi tends to have more ideas which it explores in depth rather than spinning out for a trilogy
(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 21:59, Reply)
you're dull.

(I helped save b3ta! CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:00, Reply)
you're wrong

(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:00, Reply)
No, I'm a terrible bully who picked on Chompy.
seriously though, the first trilogy was nothing special, but then she came back and wrote a second one many years later and it was much more fun, mostly from a female perspective and really great.
(I helped save b3ta! CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:05, Reply)
but I'd have to get through the first trilogy first
and that isn't going to happen soon

in fact I think I didn't like it enough that I left it at the ex-husband;s house
(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:07, Reply)
fair enough
I still like the first, but that's because I read it as a child, like LOTR.
(I helped save b3ta! CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:09, Reply)
Quixote in agrees wholeheartedly with Amberl shocker!
The later earthsea is awesome, come at it from a whole new perspective, the 1st 3 are strait fantasy.
(I helped save b3ta! CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:00, Reply)
Not really
Her parents were anthropologists, and it shows. She writes well observed alien/human cultures with good politics and social stuff.
(I helped save b3ta! CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:02, Reply)
Might give her another go then.

(I helped save b3ta! girlinthehole, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:04, Reply)
She's no
Mary Doria Russell :)
(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:05, Reply)
I think you might like her.
Can lend you some if you like, when next you are in Lahndin.
(I helped save b3ta! CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:06, Reply)
Will do.
And I'll lend you the Mary Doria Russell when you've got through your pile of to-reads.
(I helped save b3ta! girlinthehole, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:09, Reply)
did you see?!
the second one is back in print - has been a few months, I think
(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:10, Reply)
oh yeah -
CQ: get ready to have your heart torn out by the book BGB's about to lend you, seriously, you need to prepare
(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:11, Reply)
He'll love it : )
And if he doesn't I'll hit him with a blunt object until he does.
(I helped save b3ta! girlinthehole, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:13, Reply)
my ex was underwhelmed by it
I think that should have been a sign
(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:15, Reply)
my ex was underwhelmed by it
I think that should have been a sign
(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:15, Reply)

have your heart torn out by the book BGB's about to lend you, seriously, you need to prepare be seriously underwhelmed
(Zoz prayed for twink on, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:26, Reply)
You are dead to me.

(I helped save b3ta! girlinthehole, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:27, Reply)
OMG
you have NO soul
(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:28, Reply)
This may be more likely
My heart is not easily torn out any more. We shall see.
(I helped save b3ta! CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:30, Reply)
I'm the bloody ice maiden and I was moved by it.

(I helped save b3ta! girlinthehole, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:33, Reply)
you are so not.

(I helped save b3ta! CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:43, Reply)
Shhhh!
It's supposed to be a secret.
(I helped save b3ta! girlinthehole, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:45, Reply)
Let me know if you find any one who doesn't know what a big softy you are.

(I helped save b3ta! CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:47, Reply)
Pfft!

(I helped save b3ta! girlinthehole, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:48, Reply)
no me
the first time I read it I nearly cried on a train. The second time I made the mistake of reading it just after I left The Idiot. I blubbed like a baby.
(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:34, Reply)
you're both daft
and probably have a thing for priests
(Zoz prayed for twink on, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:35, Reply)
I'm not daft.
But the priest thing might be true.
(I helped save b3ta! girlinthehole, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:36, Reply)
Priests, nuns, monks
what next?
(I helped save b3ta! Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:40, Reply)
I know. *shames*

(I helped save b3ta! girlinthehole, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:42, Reply)
altar boys

(Zoz prayed for twink on, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:57, Reply)
She's going up the foodchain not down
oh wait
(I helped save b3ta! Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 23:11, Reply)
Worth it
and although I flog it an awful lot (it's one of my favourites) if you're looking for a really good science fiction book 'A Canticle for Leibowitz' is one of the best ever written.
(I helped save b3ta! Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:07, Reply)
It was pretty damn good - but best ever?

(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:08, Reply)
One of :)
Name me some science fiction books (not series) which are similar in scope
(I helped save b3ta! Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:11, Reply)
Olaf Stapleton
Star Maker. Made me feel dizzy.

in a good way
(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:18, Reply)
It is good, but agree with Cavey, maybe not that good.

(I helped save b3ta! CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:09, Reply)
You're all wrong :(

(I helped save b3ta! Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:28, Reply)
Hey, I said it was good
I can just think of several better, I suppose it depends hoe high up the list it needs to be to be 'one of the best'
(I helped save b3ta! CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:31, Reply)
For me it's in the top ten sci-fi novels ever

(I helped save b3ta! Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:35, Reply)
No, I think everything by Iain M Banks come first for me
and he's done more than 10, although maybe some of the recent stuff wouldn't make it.... and then there's Le Guin and Hienlien and Gibson and...
(I helped save b3ta! CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:50, Reply)
Mary Doria Russell
and Jeff Noon and whoever wrote Raw Shark Texts and Richard Morgan and Frank Herbert.

oooh! Cordwainer Smith - I read short stories of his the other day and WANT MOAR
(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:52, Reply)
Depends what you call "classic".
I like "The Crying of Lot 49" by Thomas Pynchon as it's by turns compelling, strange and funny, and it's a masterclass in how to plot a story very tightly with as much content and as little filler as possible.

Also "Wasp" by Eric Frank Russell, possibly the most realistic and most blackly humorous spy story ever set on another planet.
(I helped save b3ta! The Mock TurtIe ™ --- Thinks you are a cunt, on, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:00, Reply)
That second one looks interesting.
*puts on wishlist*
(I helped save b3ta! girlinthehole, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:08, Reply)
I have a love/hate relationship with Pynchon
The Crying of Lot 49 falls into the hate category.

Mason and Dixon is love. Vineland is love, and his latest - Inherent Vice - is a sort of Vineland follow-up and is excellent.

If you've never read his short stories - Slow Learner - do so.

There's a Yorkshire bash on the calendar my boy - suggested by Willenium, bunged on by me.

I'd love Plumdozer to come too - also a Pynchon fan.
(I helped save b3ta! The Disappointed Caravanner of the year, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:10, Reply)
Signed up.

(I helped save b3ta! The Mock TurtIe ™ --- Thinks you are a cunt, on, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:18, Reply)
Browns is a kick-off point
It's easy to find from the station.

Willenium is in charge of further venues.
(I helped save b3ta! The Disappointed Caravanner of the year, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:21, Reply)
Another Vote for Wasp
Very good book, re read it recently, one hopes it never falls into the hands of al quieda or however you spell them.
(I helped save b3ta! CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:11, Reply)
The author was ex-RAF and served in the Pacific during WW2, it's quite likely he was trained in sabotage.

(I helped save b3ta! The Mock TurtIe ™ --- Thinks you are a cunt, on, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:12, Reply)
Makes sense.

(I helped save b3ta! CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:19, Reply)
why haven't I read this?

(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:13, Reply)
because it's good and you have wrong taste.
I don't think it's massively well known I was surprised my most recent ex had read it and am surprised to see it come up here.
(I helped save b3ta! CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:19, Reply)
well it's on my list, now

(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:19, Reply)
This is why I love book threads.
I get to find out great new stuff to read.
(I helped save b3ta! girlinthehole, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:21, Reply)
I wish this was all like us drinking beer at my house
then I'd be all excitable and make people borrow books
(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:22, Reply)
Hahaha!
I know what you mean.
(I helped save b3ta! girlinthehole, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:22, Reply)
Working in the bookshop was best when you could
over-enthuse at someone, at which point they'd leave the shop with a massive pile of books and a list of things they'd buy next time
(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:25, Reply)
Yes but the buggers never bring 'em back
I now have a strict no loans policy after losing my signed copy of Steve Aylett's "Bigot Hall."
(I helped save b3ta! The Disappointed Caravanner of the year, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:25, Reply)
I've lost a few books but I'm more careful now.

(I helped save b3ta! girlinthehole, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:27, Reply)
I'd rather lose a few
than never lend them out. I know a few books I've got of other peoples'. Mind you, they are people I see pretty often - I'll get them back to them one day.

I love sharing books - I lived in a house 10 or 11 years ago and we all had similar taste. Things like Song of Ice and Fire would go round the house and we'd trade washing up duties to read the next books first
(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:28, Reply)
^this
I lend books to people willy-nilly, often forcing them upon them
(I helped save b3ta! Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:29, Reply)
My favourite books
Are cherished now.

I can "lend" some less impressive books but the ones I love stay here.

Having said that most of my recent losses have been to my brother-in-law and I've probably done better out of the exchange.
(I helped save b3ta! The Disappointed Caravanner of the year, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:36, Reply)
I won't lend stuff I can't loose
but there are few books I won't happily replace if needs be.
(I helped save b3ta! CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:33, Reply)
it's all about hte content
not the object
(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:35, Reply)
Very well put.
There are a few with inscriptions from people who gave them to me that I care about, beyond that not too fussed apart from special favorites, like The Disposessed.
(I helped save b3ta! CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:37, Reply)
Same
there are a few books I'd be unhappy to lose. One of which is my signed copy of Fool's Fate. Generally I don't hold with autographs but this was an exception
(I helped save b3ta! Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:40, Reply)
y'see I never went in for the whole signing thing
I could have had Anansi Boys signed by Gaiman, but I couldn't be bothered with the massive queue I did get Thus signed by Pratchet but that was a 60th birthday prezzie for my mum.
(I helped save b3ta! CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:45, Reply)
precisely
I got Fool's Fate signed because I loved the books so much. I'm not really bothered about anything else.
(I helped save b3ta! Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:46, Reply)
Fair dos
never even heard of that, may get it based on your love and the fact you seem to have the closest taste to me in the thread so far.
(I helped save b3ta! CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:52, Reply)
It's well worth it
The summary reads like a standard fantasy novel but it is significantly and substantially better
(I helped save b3ta! Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:54, Reply)
I've not read much good fantasy
Robbin Hobb? says here it's the third part of something? is that going to be an issue?
(I helped save b3ta! CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:56, Reply)
If you have the time
best to start at the beginning with the first trilogy. If you have time read the second trilogy (but that can be easily missed) if not, read the third trilogy
(I helped save b3ta! Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 23:10, Reply)
OK, give me the name of the 1st book of the first trilogy and i'll start there.

(I helped save b3ta! CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Fri 22 Jul 2011, 23:11, Reply)
Assassin's Apprentice by Robin Hobb
they get steadily better
(I helped save b3ta! Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 23:15, Reply)

cheers, on order.
(I helped save b3ta! CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Fri 22 Jul 2011, 23:17, Reply)
Hope you enjoy :)

(I helped save b3ta! Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 23:17, Reply)
I hope I get to it this centuary
I have a good pile to get through and I'm not the quickest reader. I envy you.
(I helped save b3ta! CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Fri 22 Jul 2011, 23:21, Reply)
my guinea pig has neil gaiman hair

(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:47, Reply)
and no balls

(I helped save b3ta! CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:52, Reply)
it's my answer to the people
who over react when I say I might buy a Kindle. I like books, can't say I'd stop buying them (although I'm running out of space) but kindle is just another way to get the stories, which is the real point of books
(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:41, Reply)
I agree but for me the feel of books is very importans.
I love the feeling of a well thumbed book.
(I helped save b3ta! girlinthehole, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:43, Reply)
agreed
but also new books. The way you get them in teh little waterstone's bag and they are perfectly cut and pristine. mmmmm

also, someone turns the corners over in my book or bends the cover I get very annoyed

/hypocrit
(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:44, Reply)
It's not even the new book thing
I spent a rather obscene amount of money in a second hand bookshop last weekend.

Bookshops are hallowed places.
(I helped save b3ta! The Disappointed Caravanner of the year, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:57, Reply)
I couldn't do it
I really would find it wrong to read a book on a screen.

This may be a generational thing.

I've never tried it so I shouldn't dismiss it, but the actual physical presence of a book adds to it's gravitas.
(I helped save b3ta! The Disappointed Caravanner of the year, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:47, Reply)
I can't do it because my eyesight isn't up to squinting at slightly darker bits on a lit screen for long periods of time.

(I helped save b3ta! The Mock TurtIe ™ --- Thinks you are a cunt, on, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:54, Reply)
the blake's 7 theme just came on itunes
*happy*
(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 22:53, Reply)
Not long before my bedtime.
If you could programme Blake to send Cally to my house tonight I'd be grateful.
(I helped save b3ta! The Disappointed Caravanner of the year, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 23:00, Reply)
DOwn here because I cannot be scrolling up anymore
The shatner clip is genius and explains why I love the man. The porn I got about half a paragraph in and gave up, just do not need those images in my head, the cat was bad enough, you have some odd mates
(I helped save b3ta! CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Fri 22 Jul 2011, 23:05, Reply)
Yeah, perhaps I do
is it too late to show off that my larp group are in one of the Mark Chadbourne books? We're useful in it, I believe one of the lines is

'"so what you're saying is that role-players will inherit the Earth?" "That's about it, sir."'
(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 23:09, Reply)
probably
Not many still up and I don't even know who mark thingy is.
(I helped save b3ta! CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Fri 22 Jul 2011, 23:10, Reply)
damn
it's a fairly average/good fantasy series. Celtic myths have started becoming real. I think we're just in for a page in book 4 or 5 where we're organising logistics from an island in Scotland because we're "uniquely suited for dealing with the new world".

My friend had been talking to him online about our plans for a post apocalyptic world
(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 23:12, Reply)
You'd have the knowledge
but I'm not certain Larpers in general would have the skills. I'm watching Resident Evil at the moment and it strikes me Milla Jovovich has the right requirements
(I helped save b3ta! Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 23:14, Reply)
maybe, maybe not
but we'd worked out between us that we had a lot of specialisms/skills. I'm not sure I'm a good example of someone useful
(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 23:15, Reply)
It depends what kind of post-apocalyptic world
the kind with zombies etc and I reckon not.
(I helped save b3ta! Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 23:17, Reply)
no, we'd need
the re enactors for that - those dudes have real swords.

We're best at dealing with fucked-up-ed-ness, you know, and knowing bits about celtic myth because we've 'dealt' with them before
(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 23:18, Reply)
Jiggiln' Titties
Time for bed, sleep tight all.
(I helped save b3ta! CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Fri 22 Jul 2011, 23:22, Reply)
night!

(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 23:23, Reply)

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