Politics, and evening.
I'm quite interested in this whole English Defence League thing, and no side is trying to reason with the other, so they're getting stone-wall'd. None of them would admit the other half has _any_ good points what so over and can't see that considing a few minor things could get the other half to conseed something bigger. For example :-

The EDL say they talk for the working class and that there is an undercurrent of fear about islam in the UK, and the other side say they don't speak for anyone. Well, that's silly, they're putting a voice to a fear against islam extreamism, and a lot of people really do think that the UK is going too far out of it's way to help islamic people, in the respect of benfits and goverment services. But you can counter that arguement by the other groups of people who claim sick benifit when they shouldn't. You could probably easerly get the EDL to admit they're just as much in the wrong (if they didn't stonewall).

There are a lot of people who think the voilance seen in the middle east will, reach the UK. It's a valid concern, it's happened before, it's not impossible. But the verious goverment forces are standing up and taking note of it, they're expelling the likes of Abu Hanza. They're listening in when they have reports, and where are these reports coming from? Exactly, not many non-muslims in a mosque. You could get the EDL to admit there that it's not muslims, but extremests, that are the problem. But what about extremests in the EDL? They don't condone violence, apparently, so maybe they should report members who are showing signs of hatrid to non-extremest muslims? Makes sense really, the people in the mosques are.

Hitler was the embodiment of evil, but he liked dogs. Both of these are facts. One does not negate the other.

See, simple negotiation, in all the interviews I've seen and heard to day, such as from the radio, the presenter badgers and rams points home rather than letting people tie their own noose, which would have been so easy.

The truth is, no political movement represents my feelings and views, it wouldn't be right to ask for them to cater for one person. I don't think there are lots of problems with this country, I don't know all the solutions to all of them, but I strongly believe that not letting 'the other side' speak just fucks things up.

*steps down off soap-box*

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- Fish'n'Chips for dinner, extra HP Guinness sauce. Got an extra fillet for free because the 'medium' ones were small and the big one was medium. Probably polock instead of cod anyway.
- I'm enjoying 'The Chicargo Code' on the telly, I have the whole of season 1 on my Skybox
- I GOT MY HANDS ON A BOOK I'VE BEEN WAITING TO COME OUT FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS NOW !!! YAY !!!! I GOT 'The Magician King' on my Kindle ! YAY
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 19:29, 105 replies, latest was 15 years ago)

The reports given to the police about extremism within the mosque will come from the same sources as information on EDL violence; informers and spies.
As regards the violence in the Middle East reaching the UK, that's entirely unlikely. There is absolutely no terrorist organisation on the planet capable of inflicting the scale of violence used on a daily basis by the armies currently fighting over there.

Now the EDL do not, and cannot represent the "working class." All they can do, and do, is represent a point of view that is shared by some members of all classes in England.

For all my complaints about the UK, and there are many, I am always happy to say that it is, on the island of Britain, a safe and healthy democratic society. In this context it is important to allow the EDL to protest legally, and for decent people to show up, and do their civic duty of kicking the living shit out every EDL scumbag they can lay their boots on.
( Dr Preference AjcuiVd289, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 20:04, Reply)

Yeah', that's what I mean, about spies and informers... they'll always be people in the group who think others have gone to far, or want to jump up the ladder themselves so stab people in teh back.
Oh'aye, totally agree about the scale of voilance in the middle east, what I mean is, a phsyical attack happening.

Yeah', that's what I meant, about representing the 'working class', it's that they claim to represent the working class.

Totally, the fact that I could say this in, say, the middle of a pub on on the telly, makes Briton great.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 20:11, Reply)

There'll be people who are involved, but opposed to full blown terrorism, and there will be undercover cops. Both are good.
And yes, your freedom to say this is one of the best things about your country. The better thing about your country is that most people will agree with you.
( Dr Preference AjcuiVd289, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 20:12, Reply)

Fucking Muslims, coming over here
Living in family units, making their kids succeed at school, working their bollocks off.

Makes me sick!
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 22:02, Reply)

It's Saturday night, I'm bored
and my brain isn't working enough to participate in a proper debate.

chips are nice, though.

Anyone else around and not out having a super bazzing saturday night?
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 21:32, Reply)

If I get another text off my mates I'm gonna kill someone.
They're hosting a party on Kingsland Road and then going to Fabric which doesn't shut until 2pm tomorrow. I need to be there but instead I'm here watching Friends.
(Barry from Eastenders is, despite the words written above, not a woman, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 21:35, Reply)

Why you doing that then?
friends isn't exactly cliffhanger tv
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 21:37, Reply)

I'm not skint.
But if I go out tonight I'll spend about two hundred quid and there's no way I'm doing that.
(Barry from Eastenders is, despite the words written above, not a woman, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 21:39, Reply)

that sounds a little steep
I'm sure they'll have a shitty time
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 21:41, Reply)

Price you have to pay if you want to throw shapes for a full twenty four hours.
I'd do it normally but I'm doing the exact same thing next Saturday at a better thing with the same group of lads and lasses. Only we're starting at midday on the Saturday and will be getting on down until Sunday night. I'm already dreading waking up on the Monday.
(Barry from Eastenders is, despite the words written above, not a woman, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 21:44, Reply)

you crazy young people

( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 21:45, Reply)

Reach for the lasers.

(Barry from Eastenders is, despite the words written above, not a woman, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 21:47, Reply)

uh? is this a think young people say
or is that a call to shoot them with lasers?
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 21:49, Reply)

Human Traffic reference init.

(Barry from Eastenders is, despite the words written above, not a woman, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 21:52, Reply)

never seen it
I'm not very good at 'film'
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 21:56, Reply)

You know who loves film?

(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 22:00, Reply)

it is al?

( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 22:01, Reply)

Not my first thought.
Darth? No.

Monty, that's the one!
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 22:06, Reply)

I get those guys mixed up

( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 22:07, Reply)

Easily done.
I love "film". I'm watching Harry Potter!
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 22:11, Reply)

are you wearing your cloak and house scarf?

( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 22:12, Reply)

oh man
I was totally hoping for some sexy talk there
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 22:38, Reply)

you're not missing much
It's "fucking shit"
( Bazongaloid, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 22:00, Reply)

HALIBUT

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 22:06, Reply)

HADDOCK

( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 22:08, Reply)

Evening quenders
'sup, y'all.
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Sat 30 Jul 2011, 22:46, Reply)

who you callin a quender?

( Lisette von Falcon, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 22:52, Reply)

At least I'm not calling you a septic.

( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Sat 30 Jul 2011, 22:57, Reply)

fair point

( Lisette von Falcon, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:19, Reply)

T-MINUS 18hours until launch

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 22:52, Reply)

oh yes!
have you been preparing, b3th? Are you going to sleep upside down to aclimatise yourself?
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 22:53, Reply)

haha
I haven't really thought about it much, to be honest.

I'll probably be shitting myself tomorrow.
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Sat 30 Jul 2011, 22:56, Reply)

well, just remember
if you chicken out we will rip the piss forever. It's not worth it
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 22:58, Reply)

JUMP JUMP JUMP

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:00, Reply)

Oi!
I haven't got a bungee rope attached!
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:01, Reply)

you have the power of ink, fly sister.

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:02, Reply)

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:02, Reply)

FALL FALL FALL
SPLAT.
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:02, Reply)

£225 says I can't back out now.

( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:00, Reply)

Wotcha
I'm amazing myself with the ability to type. Just watched Anaconda, A Knights Tale and Escape From New York. We have more alcohol and it's a fair bet to say I'm gonna drink it.
( Bill Clay a.k.a. Claudio, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:00, Reply)

in which case it's time to sat something innappropriate
which you'll regret tomorrow
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:01, Reply)

I've never sat 'pon anything inappropriate
..er, maybe
( Bill Clay a.k.a. Claudio, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:02, Reply)

OK, perhaps I'm the one who can't type
but elaborate
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:02, Reply)

*is inadvertantly backed into a corner*
*sweats a bit*
--
--
-
*takes the fifth*
( Bill Clay a.k.a. Claudio, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:07, Reply)

fifth!!
that's more cocks than even Darth could take

(oh man, I feel bad, I've never made a 'Darth is Gay' joke before on principle of it being over done. Too late now)
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:09, Reply)

Neither have I, on the same principal
It's like the Long Walk and you've just pulled your own throat out.
( Bill Clay a.k.a. Claudio, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:16, Reply)

eh?
is this another film?
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:18, Reply)

Unfilmed Stephen King novella
You blinked first, basically
( Bill Clay a.k.a. Claudio, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:20, Reply)

I forgot how much I liked the John Barry score for The Specialist
If James Woods wasn't in this I might be turning over right now
( Bill Clay a.k.a. Claudio, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:21, Reply)

That story was weird.
and not in a good way.
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:23, Reply)

I loved it
It's quite close to being made last I Heard
( Bill Clay a.k.a. Claudio, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:24, Reply)

I think I heard that.
It probably would make a good film, to be honest.
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:27, Reply)

THREE awful films there.
My typing ability is shit. Arthur is on BBC 1, always worth a watch for the lovely kiera.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:01, Reply)

Knight's Tale is great fun.
Arthur was shit
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:03, Reply)

you two faced bitch! I hate you!

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:04, Reply)

??!
Arthur was terrible - guinevere is not a pictish name. And all the other issues. And it's boring
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:06, Reply)

It has Mads Mikkelsen in it and he is badass.
What are you watching then cool cat?
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:09, Reply)

I don't know actors names
i ain't watching nothing. No TV, no patience for films. I did buy Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey the other day. I might watch that sometime soon.

Am I know part of some super secret club of kidz with cool tats?
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:10, Reply)

yeah, until you get a tribal then we kick you out.

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:17, Reply)

Are they those pointy ones people get around their upper arms?

( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:18, Reply)

yup, bender hoops.

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:21, Reply)

I'm taping Cloverfield for use tomorrow.
I lovethat film, though I'm undecided whether it's shit or excellent.
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:03, Reply)

I'd watch it now, you know, just in case like...

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:04, Reply)

hahahaha

( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:04, Reply)

It's fucking shit, it was a blessed relief when it turns out that all of those whiney pricks died

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:07, Reply)

never seen it
trailer looked OK, though
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:07, Reply)

I@VESPOLITTHEENDINGHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
ha
( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:09, Reply)

It's not like I'd get round to watching it

( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:11, Reply)

It's fucking tedious, it pains me to say that Harry Potter is more watchable and I only managed a couple of minutes of that earlier on

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:13, Reply)

It's one of those things
that you can watch and put away again and you're fine,

or you can go over all the little hidden bits and spot the clever parts.

It's a JJ Abrams thing.
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:10, Reply)

who?

( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:11, Reply)

The guy who created Lost.
That's also full of clever little references.
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:12, Reply)

I've never seen that, either
/culturefail
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:14, Reply)

made startrek good too.

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:17, Reply)

+ whilst still appeasing existing fans
That's no mean feat right there, I was very impressed.
( Bill Clay a.k.a. Claudio, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:18, Reply)

It made star trek cool, which is no mean feat.

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:21, Reply)

Star Trek was always cool
99.9% of the population was in denial is all
( Bill Clay a.k.a. Claudio, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:23, Reply)

^this
but I really, really enjoyed the new film. Especially all the mantotty.
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:25, Reply)

dumbass, green tits ftw.

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:27, Reply)

what the?
was that supposed to make some kind of sense to me?
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:29, Reply)

the man totty pales into insignificance when you consider the green skinned bombshell kirk fucks.

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:35, Reply)

Oddly enough
I'm more interested in teh mantotty than the colourful ladies.
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:37, Reply)

You hetero !

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:40, Reply)

I no rite?
I should totally throw myself off a cliff or something.
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:41, Reply)

or a crane

( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:42, Reply)

Ooh!
I know where I can find one of them!
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:43, Reply)

man totty?!
*pricks up pointy ears*
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:28, Reply)

Chris Pine, Carl Urban, Zachary Quinto.

( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:30, Reply)

*googles*
yes, not so much, yes
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:33, Reply)

See, that's the one I like the most.
He made a great Bones too.
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:34, Reply)

he has a slightly odd shaped face

( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:35, Reply)

As it happrns, I look a bit like Karl Urban..
..(in my dreams) I'm quite looking forwards to see how he does as Judge Dredd.
( Bill Clay a.k.a. Claudio, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:34, Reply)

rrrrorrrrrwwww

( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:35, Reply)

I AM THE LAW

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:36, Reply)

*hides in a robo-bin*
*commits Rob Schneider-cide*
( Bill Clay a.k.a. Claudio, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:38, Reply)

Sly Stallone gave us Rocky,
he also removed dredds helmet, epic fail.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:40, Reply)

Anaconda is worth it for the amount of sleaze Jon Voight spunks on the screen
A Knights Tale is great fun, shows of some early talent from Heath Ledger and Paul Bettany and my wife assures me that James Purefoy is 'well fit. If you think Escape From New York is awful then you're of an opinion oppposite to mine. And very very wrong.
( Bill Clay a.k.a. Claudio, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:05, Reply)

I've just got in.
I'm thinking that sleep might be a good idea.
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:33, Reply)

Sleep is always a good idea.

( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:33, Reply)

how was your evening out?
I hear you were a cunt to LiC
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:33, Reply)

I got him a treat!
I got to the station before him, and sent him a text saying 'I'm on the right, I'm the black bloke with dreads'

Watching him introduce himself to some random was very amusing.
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:35, Reply)

it is a fine trick and no mistake

( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:36, Reply)

And what was the score?

( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:37, Reply)

Jeff 1 Lighty 0

( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:38, Reply)

Sleep is for commies
Belay the red menace and talk some old toot with these B2ta clowns
( Bill Clay a.k.a. Claudio, Sat 30 Jul 2011, 23:37, Reply)