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Typical yok, blaming The Chosen for something the Italians did.

(, Mon 19 Dec 2011, 9:35, 3 replies, latest was 14 years ago)
And if you say "Well, you don't blame a lion for killing a gladiator in a ring, you blame the emporer for sending him into the ring".
Well, I think the Italians should take more resonciblity for it. Oooohhh, they have that vatican thing, big fucking woop, and I thought the jews had a guilt complex.
(, Mon 19 Dec 2011, 9:36, Reply)
Please note: I meant "Big fucking woop" in the respect of "Big fucking deal" instead of the amercanisim slur for an italian immigrant.

(, Mon 19 Dec 2011, 9:37, Reply)
it's OK, that would be a wop.

(, Mon 19 Dec 2011, 9:38, Reply)
From the old Neapolitan word, wapo: Attractive man, good with the ladies.
At least, they like to think so.
(, Mon 19 Dec 2011, 9:40, Reply)
I didn't know that.
Why do they take offence then?
(, Mon 19 Dec 2011, 9:45, Reply)
Cause that's just what us wops say to make it seem better.
Wop stands for without papers.
As lots of Italian immigrants didn't have passports they would stand in this queue at the docks in the 19th century.
(, Mon 19 Dec 2011, 9:48, Reply)
I thought it was WithOut Papers, as that was how they arrived
like my great great grandfather, who I think basically made up a name on arrival and kept it
(, Mon 19 Dec 2011, 9:47, Reply)
Good old great grandpa Napoleon.

(, Mon 19 Dec 2011, 9:54, Reply)
Haha

(, Mon 19 Dec 2011, 9:56, Reply)
I hope you're not confusing cathlolocisim
with the exploits of the holy Roman Empire, here? Cos, y'know, there's just a touch of a difference between the two.
(, Mon 19 Dec 2011, 9:38, Reply)
Yeah since that was mostly Germany

(, Mon 19 Dec 2011, 9:39, Reply)
Haha, now _that_'s the jewish spirit.
The other day I stubbed my toe on the table, I can't remember putting the table there, must have been a german.
(, Mon 19 Dec 2011, 9:41, Reply)
Let's call a "People from the regional area of europe that looks a bit like a boot who are under the command of a centralized goverment from said reagon"
a "People from the regional area of europe that looks a bit like a boot who are under the command of a centralized goverment from said reagon" here.
(, Mon 19 Dec 2011, 9:40, Reply)
Roman empire wasn't in any way particularly Italian
neither, for that matter, are catholics.

It's pretty much a coincedence that the Vatican is in Italy. Next most important places to the catholics are in France and Spain as it happens.
(, Mon 19 Dec 2011, 9:43, Reply)
It's no coincidence the Vatican is in Rome, seen as the Roman empire became christian.

(, Mon 19 Dec 2011, 9:44, Reply)
the fact that it's the seat of the Catholic church
isn't really much to do with the Italians, though. In the whole christianity/catholic split, for long periods Spain, France and even England were more "important" to the Catholic church. I thought it was the Vatican by default since England and France effectively overthrew Catholic rulers?
(, Mon 19 Dec 2011, 9:47, Reply)
Seen as Italy wasn't a country until fairly recently you are correct.
Gonz is being facetious though, as am I.
The papal states pimped themselves out to anyone who would defend them, as the defenders of the faith. Hence why the Spanish and French are important Cathiolic countries.

The Vatican is in Rome because the Roman Empire became catholic. That be a FACT.
(, Mon 19 Dec 2011, 9:52, Reply)
I think Gonz is being stoned.
Yeah, I fucked up with the holy roman empire, I didn't realise that when they tried to resurrect the whole shebang through the catholic church they called it "empire" again.

The Romans would have killed any Italian catholics on sight, though, which does kind of put a flaw in Gonz'z idea.
(, Mon 19 Dec 2011, 9:55, Reply)
How would they have done that? Catholics didn't exist in the Empire before it became Christian.
The Catholic church split from the Orthodox church way after that.

So the Romans be burning and killing normal Christians and to be honest that was somewhat overstated. Romans were quite into religious tolerance.
(, Mon 19 Dec 2011, 9:57, Reply)
I meant in the sense that catholics would be a christian sect.
Mostly the Romans weren't mad for Christians. They displayed some tolerance some of the time but then tend to spoil it with massive outbursts of religious genocide.
(, Mon 19 Dec 2011, 9:59, Reply)
The Greeks were where it was at, baby.

(, Mon 19 Dec 2011, 10:00, Reply)
If you were a bummer.

(, Mon 19 Dec 2011, 10:05, Reply)
a philosophical bummer, yep.

(, Mon 19 Dec 2011, 10:07, Reply)
Or an actual cock in bum bummer.
Those crazy homos.
(, Mon 19 Dec 2011, 10:10, Reply)
Until Constantine coverted after he had a dream and the won an important battle
But he wasn't terribly nice as he boiled his wife to death
(, Mon 19 Dec 2011, 10:01, Reply)
Hmm, not really and they mostly made examples of folk.
The Romans had a simple solution to religion, worship who you like as long as you acknowledge our gods. So, they did get pissy at the Christians sometimes but mostly left them alone.

The Jews are the ones who really got it in the necks. One rebellion too many for them.
(, Mon 19 Dec 2011, 10:03, Reply)
I blame the "people's front of Judea"

(, Mon 19 Dec 2011, 10:03, Reply)
Whatever happened to the popular front?

(, Mon 19 Dec 2011, 10:04, Reply)
They lost a byelection

(, Mon 19 Dec 2011, 10:06, Reply)
mumpsy, I'd have never guessed this area of history was your subject.
Totally owned. My wife will never forgive me, as it clearly demonstrates I wasn't paying attention when she was talking about her education.
(, Mon 19 Dec 2011, 10:05, Reply)
I do quite like history, classical stuff be fun.
To an extent cause it's difficult to view things from a certain perspective of that long ago. Easy enough to come out with dry facts but the mindset is so different.
(, Mon 19 Dec 2011, 10:09, Reply)
Of course the problem with this is for many religions to acknowledge other gods is sacreligious

(, Mon 19 Dec 2011, 10:07, Reply)
Exactly why the Jews got such a kicking off the Romans.

(, Mon 19 Dec 2011, 10:09, Reply)
And you can't tell the difference from the Bromovitz family who run the bagel factory in downtown new york...
... and the levitz family who run the salt beef shop on the upper-east side?
(, Mon 19 Dec 2011, 9:44, Reply)
Compelte and utter different gaffettle of fish there.

(, Mon 19 Dec 2011, 9:45, Reply)
what the absolute fuck are you talking about, mate?

(, Mon 19 Dec 2011, 9:48, Reply)
How you can tell the difference between 'romans' and 'holy romans', but every jew is the same to you.

(, Mon 19 Dec 2011, 9:49, Reply)
no, I was pointing out the rather vast differnce
between Romans in the historical sense of the Roman empire, Italians, and Catholics.
(, Mon 19 Dec 2011, 9:50, Reply)
They're all yoks and goys to me.

(, Mon 19 Dec 2011, 9:51, Reply)
oy vey!
He's just a schnorrer Gonz, let him be.
(, Mon 19 Dec 2011, 9:54, Reply)
Gonz. you're about as religious as my nutsack

(, Mon 19 Dec 2011, 9:56, Reply)
I donno what I am, in a religious sense, not a clue. I'm a little bit of everything mostly dosed with a lot of Common Sense.
But I'm still a jew, it's a cultural thing not only 'as well as' religious, but 'also as'.
(, Mon 19 Dec 2011, 10:01, Reply)
you know it's this kind of shit that gets Jews persecuted, right?


disclaimer. JOKE.
(, Mon 19 Dec 2011, 10:06, Reply)
Haha, it's those fucking hassidics and 'united's that do it.
They're so fucking backwards peasent thinking.

Christians have Westboro.
Muslims have MAC and those imrams out in north-asia/middle-east
Brits have the likes of the EDL and Chavs.
Geeks have the lot like Games Workshops people
Jews have the hassidics and 'uniteds'.

Every demographic has a subdemographic that makes the rest of them embarassed.
(, Mon 19 Dec 2011, 10:11, Reply)
Scotland has Dundee.

(, Mon 19 Dec 2011, 10:12, Reply)
Britain has Scotland

(, Mon 19 Dec 2011, 10:13, Reply)
This is why we want to fail on our own.

(, Mon 19 Dec 2011, 10:15, Reply)
My boss has remarked on a number of occasions
that 'we find the Hassidics weird too'.
(, Mon 19 Dec 2011, 10:15, Reply)
They're fucking phsycos.
1 - Everything, EVERYTHING, is eaither the fault of the germans, if there is any logic desputing this, then that is because they are egyptions 'cus of the whole salve thing 3000 years ago.
2 - Men can't touch women or non-believers
3 - THEY DON'T EAT PORK OR PRAWN
4 - My cousen is 'united', at her batmizata thing, there was 4 hours of some prat banging on about something, 45 minutes of the prat's son banging on about something, and then 15 minutes of the batmiztha girl.
5 - Someone had a go at me 'cus my phone went off.... in the hallway.... outside.... 20 minutes before anything started.
6 - Someone gave me the most limp risted handshake I've ever had that was actually insulting, 'cus he knew I wasn't a true believer 'cus I didn't have my cupal (little hat thing) on.
7 - They honestly truly believe they have the _only_ right to Israel _and_ the surrounding region.
(, Mon 19 Dec 2011, 10:22, Reply)
And the worst thing is that they believe they are better than everyone else.
I can't fucking stand that.
(, Mon 19 Dec 2011, 10:23, Reply)
Bit of a difference there between the Roman Empire and the Holy Roman Empire.

(, Mon 19 Dec 2011, 9:41, Reply)
Is there?
Oh, yeah, you're right. My mistake

Gonz, ignore the Holy bit, I'm talking pish. I just mean the Roman Empire.
(, Mon 19 Dec 2011, 9:44, Reply)
yeah, you keep telling yourself that. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

(, Mon 19 Dec 2011, 9:36, Reply)
This one wasn't the wops fault.
They tried to let him go but oh no, typical blood thirsty Jews.
"nail the fucker to a cross! Stoning's too good for the cunt!"
(, Mon 19 Dec 2011, 9:37, Reply)

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