well, yeah, it is.
Too much of it is clearly bad, but without it you're fucked on iron, most of the b vitamins and several other key things.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Fri 2 Nov 2012, 10:17, 3 replies, latest was 13 years ago)

Testosterone and sexiness.

(PsychoChomp, Fri 2 Nov 2012, 10:19, Reply)

indeed.

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Fri 2 Nov 2012, 10:19, Reply)

I thought it was female hormones they used in animal feed?

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 2 Nov 2012, 10:29, Reply)

No, that's feed dead whores to animals.

(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Fri 2 Nov 2012, 10:32, Reply)

actually Badger, I asked my GP if there would be health benefits in going back to eating meat.
He quite categorically stated that there were none.

There are lots of sources of iron and B vitamins that aren't meat. You know this, I know this and Tangers knows this. So spare the sanctimony plz.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Fri 2 Nov 2012, 10:25, Reply)

Get you.
Veggies are bent, it's a well documented medical and legal fact. Look at George Michaels and Elton Johns. And that lad that played Spock in the recent Star Trek film.
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Fri 2 Nov 2012, 10:28, Reply)

Ironically it's the men putting hot meat in their mouths that are the straight ones.

( Kroney, Fri 2 Nov 2012, 10:29, Reply)

But not the hot meat that you love so much.
And try and suck all of your B vitamins out of.
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Fri 2 Nov 2012, 10:33, Reply)

I am more bent than Kenneth Williams getting bummed by Rob Halford.

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Fri 2 Nov 2012, 10:30, Reply)

*waits to say Godwin*

(localboy purveyor of pisspoor puns, Fri 2 Nov 2012, 10:33, Reply)

Just like a smug Hitler

( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 2 Nov 2012, 10:35, Reply)

much as I hate to appear to be on the side of Dozer here
why does anyone care what anyone else eats or doesn't eat? As long as it's not your cock or your own dog or something it barely matters
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 2 Nov 2012, 10:45, Reply)

I don't give a shit what anyone eats. Except vegans.
I object to being called sanctimonious for pointing out fairly obvious scientific fact, though.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Fri 2 Nov 2012, 10:54, Reply)

Even I think that vegans are cunts.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 2 Nov 2012, 11:02, Reply)

Actually, there really aren't particularly.
because of the mechanisms and pathways of production of both groups and the hundreds of thousands of years of evolution that make us omnivorous and evolved to source our iron and Bvits from meat. Yes, it's entirely possible (if difficult) to obtain iron and Bvits from non-animal sources, but only by taking supplments of synthesied vits, particularly cobalamin. Which, of course, is totally natural and healthy. But, yeah, I'm clearly the one being sancitmonious.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Fri 2 Nov 2012, 10:39, Reply)

That is a very detailed ZING.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 2 Nov 2012, 10:41, Reply)

If slightly inaccurate.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 2 Nov 2012, 10:51, Reply)

which bit's inaccurate?

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Fri 2 Nov 2012, 10:52, Reply)

"but only by taking supplments of synthesied vits"

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 2 Nov 2012, 10:53, Reply)

The only non-animal source of cobalamin available is enzymatically synthesised.
And there is still an awful lot of debate as to whether it's anywhere near as effective as the animal-sourced version.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Fri 2 Nov 2012, 10:55, Reply)

I've already conceded that cobalamin is near impossible to source naturally in a vegetarian diet.
I was questioning your claim about iron and the other B vitamins.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 2 Nov 2012, 11:00, Reply)

I don't think my sentence is very well constructed, looking at it again,
B12 is the only one that's impossible to source naturally except from animal products. Iron and other Bvits are harder to source from non-animal products. Particularly iron, as in greens particulalry it exists in a form that we haven't evolved the mechanisms to absorb yet.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Fri 2 Nov 2012, 11:07, Reply)

Harder, but not impossible.
Sure, I would need to consume a much larger quantity of cruciferous vegetables to get the same iron as a small cube of red meat, but likewise, my body doesn't really require the iron that a 12oz steak would provide.
I'm not some anaemic, menstruating female.
Nor does the B12 worry me, I'm pretty sure I do not have pernicious anaemia either.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 2 Nov 2012, 11:11, Reply)

I'm pretty sure you do hve AIDs though

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 2 Nov 2012, 11:13, Reply)

I should have worn protection when I slept with your parents.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 2 Nov 2012, 11:14, Reply)

B12 mainly.
The rest are freely available from non-meat sources.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 2 Nov 2012, 10:28, Reply)

not "freely"
Iron isn't easily absorbable from anything except animal products and the odd cereal.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Fri 2 Nov 2012, 10:40, Reply)

He easily absorbs them from all the vitamin supplements
he has to take in order to maintain his body which, unlike him, isn't actually a vegetarian.
( Kroney, Fri 2 Nov 2012, 10:41, Reply)

We're entering into strange philosophical territory here.
You are counting 'me' and 'my body' as separate entities?
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 2 Nov 2012, 10:52, Reply)

Not that strange.
Your body hasn't evolved to be a vegetarian. It needs certain nutrients and minerals that it has evolved to take from certain sources. You as a person have decided to cut those sources out. I'm really distinguishing between the "you" that is an organic machine and you as an entity.
( Kroney, Fri 2 Nov 2012, 10:55, Reply)

Vegetarianism isn't a particularly new concept.
I'm pretty sure I am not suffering from any deficiencies.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 2 Nov 2012, 10:59, Reply)

except in not being WELL BENT, amirite?

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Fri 2 Nov 2012, 11:02, Reply)

You know that I am gay for you, Badge.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 2 Nov 2012, 11:07, Reply)

I'm only arguing so much because I'm hot for your lithe vegetarian form.

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Fri 2 Nov 2012, 11:08, Reply)

It's a lot newer than the evolution of the human body.

( Kroney, Fri 2 Nov 2012, 11:02, Reply)

Hahaha yeah RIGHT Lyndhurst.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 2 Nov 2012, 11:14, Reply)

YOU PLONKER!!!!

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 2 Nov 2012, 11:16, Reply)

Yeah, IF YOU'RE BENT.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 2 Nov 2012, 10:40, Reply)

I really don't know why I don't take this approach in scientific debate.
I missed out on £1.5 million in funding yesterday by the width of a gnat's ball, perhaps I should email the BBSRC and tell them they are bent?
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Fri 2 Nov 2012, 10:42, Reply)

yes you should

( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 2 Nov 2012, 10:43, Reply)

I considered posting them a single poo every day until they change their ranking system
but if fear it will be ineffective.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Fri 2 Nov 2012, 10:47, Reply)

Plus all the red meat in your diet makes it difficult for you to produce one daily.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 2 Nov 2012, 10:50, Reply)

mind piss

( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 2 Nov 2012, 10:50, Reply)

I balance the red meat with stella.
which keeps me regular if unstable.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Fri 2 Nov 2012, 10:52, Reply)

because you aren't that regular?

( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 2 Nov 2012, 10:50, Reply)

It works for me. It's so versatile - perfect for so many different circumstances.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 2 Nov 2012, 10:45, Reply)