We'll be going to Florence at some point, I think.
Dunno. I don't think all that far ahead.

Cammo's a bare-faced prick. I am rabidly opposed to the death penalty, there should always be room for redemption. On the other hand, I do think that 30 years for a pre-meditated, cold-blooded murder is too lenient.

Altalt: well shit, I'm sick as a dog.
( Kroney, Thu 2 Jan 2014, 15:18, 2 replies, latest was 11 years ago)

I think there needs to be harsher sentencing
There's no fear with those who commit crimes because the punishment isn't severe.

The death penalty should still be an option but used under very extreme circumstances. Keeping the people alive for life is a drain on resources.
( GeordieJay Bummers are deaf, Thu 2 Jan 2014, 15:20, Reply)

I am mostly opposed to it
The idea of killing anyone is abhorrent.

But there are hundreds of prisoners for whom "redemption" is too naive/never going to happen. These people aren't ever going to be able to live in society without harming other people. And for the really bad ones, I might make an exception. Look at Ian Brady - how much has it cost to keep him alive, whe he doesn't even want to be here?!

They should just set them free somewhere like Bootle or Redcar.....
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 2 Jan 2014, 15:24, Reply)

or Milton Keynes.

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Thu 2 Jan 2014, 15:25, Reply)

The Internet says it has cost £14,000,000 to keep Ian Brady alive so far
A man who butchered small children and taped it.

This can't be right either... I'm glad it's not my decision
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 2 Jan 2014, 15:26, Reply)

Number 1: You are saying that killing people is wrong and then killing people that break that rule.
I cannot be the only one to have a problem with that inherent hypocrisy.

Number 2: Killing a person removes any hope that they may be rehabilitated.

Number 3: Wrongful conviction. Further evidence has occasionally been found to clear the name of a person convicted for murder. Killing them makes this miscarriage of justice completely irreversible.

Number 4: Killing is wrong, you guys.
( Kroney, Thu 2 Jan 2014, 15:25, Reply)

^^^^

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 2 Jan 2014, 15:25, Reply)

How would you feel if little or baby tangles had been one of his victims?
/devil's advocate
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 2 Jan 2014, 15:27, Reply)

then he couldn't easily take an objective view and would be the worst person to ask

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Thu 2 Jan 2014, 15:28, Reply)

I don't think I'd like to meet the person that could take a truly objective view on child torture and murder

( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 2 Jan 2014, 15:31, Reply)

you work in law, you must appreciate taking a dispassionate view of things.

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Thu 2 Jan 2014, 15:33, Reply)

work in law had chompy's cock in your mouth
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 2 Jan 2014, 15:34, Reply)

He sent me a FB friend request the other day.
I think he wants to put it in mine next.
( Kroney, Thu 2 Jan 2014, 15:36, Reply)

haha!
Did you accept it?
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Thu 2 Jan 2014, 15:36, Reply)

I've only met him the once and he was fall-down drunk at the time.
We never even got along on here. Maybe he wanted some restaurant recommendations?
( Kroney, Thu 2 Jan 2014, 15:38, Reply)

do they do vouchers?

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Thu 2 Jan 2014, 16:13, Reply)

Perhaps he sees you as an ally now that you hate swipe

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 2 Jan 2014, 15:37, Reply)

Worst reason to FB anyone, ever.

( Kroney, Thu 2 Jan 2014, 15:39, Reply)

Or maybe he thought you were Edward Snowden?

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 2 Jan 2014, 15:43, Reply)

Ha, maybe.
I ain't saying I definitely am, but I am saying you might want to surf your scat sites using inPrivate browsing.
( Kroney, Thu 2 Jan 2014, 15:47, Reply)

"The enemy of my enemy is my FB Friend Request"

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 2 Jan 2014, 16:53, Reply)

Not when it comes to something like that
And in my experience those who do, eg those wh defend child abusers, are not people you'd choose to see on a social level...
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 2 Jan 2014, 15:35, Reply)

Surely you've been to McDonalds near a school during lunch break?

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 2 Jan 2014, 16:51, Reply)

I wouldn't care.

( MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Thu 2 Jan 2014, 15:28, Reply)

Well, we all know that it would be the best thing for humanity to remove them from the gene pool, but speaking hypothetically...

( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 2 Jan 2014, 15:30, Reply)

One of Kroney's victims?

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 2 Jan 2014, 15:29, Reply)

Bit old for him
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 2 Jan 2014, 15:30, Reply)

You'd feel fucking honoured or I'd come after the other one, too.

( Kroney, Thu 2 Jan 2014, 15:30, Reply)

I agree with Pierre

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Thu 2 Jan 2014, 15:26, Reply)

I'm all for a bit of hypocrisy.
Well we need harsher sentencing then or punishments.
Off with their... hands?

We should ship em all off like we did to Australia.
Look what has happened! It's became a great country with humour not dissimilar to our own.
( GeordieJay Bummers are deaf, Thu 2 Jan 2014, 16:15, Reply)

I am of the opinion that the law should be for protecting the public, not for exacting revenge.
Lock them away for life if there's enough risk to the public, but there should always be room for rehabilitation.

Even if it's just giving a serial killer enough mental treatment to stop him from shanking fellow inmates.
( Kroney, Thu 2 Jan 2014, 16:18, Reply)

Harsher sentencing has very little to do with crime rates
please see USA with the stupid 3 strike rule, increasing the length of sentences will not change the rate of conviction or reoffending. If you look the countries with the lowest recidivism rates are the Scandinavian ones where (by UK standards) the sentences are lower but with better rehab.
(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Thu 2 Jan 2014, 15:37, Reply)

That's because the Scandis are too busy killing themselves to bother with anybody else.

( Kroney, Thu 2 Jan 2014, 15:58, Reply)