Happy Tuesday ... ten days until I come home! w00t!
Today's Sesame Street is brought to you by the letters B, T and A and the number 3.



"Happy Birthday ancrenne!"

PS: I've added my childhood hero to todays pictures (no, not Bez). Move the mouse over him to read Ed's secret message!
(Eds Meds Mathskillz=1,Socialskillz=0, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 6:57, 214 replies, latest was 16 years ago)

morning Ed
how are you today?
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 8:38, Reply)

Now this IS the right way to be welcomed to B3ta every morning : )
It's cheered me up.
( girlinthehole, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 8:40, Reply)

morning
morning all! Absolutely loving the count! How is everyone today? Cuppa anyone?
(weekirst23 Is broken! Silly ice. Silly High heels!, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 8:47, Reply)

@All
Morning Ed, wee Kirst @ BGB ... thanks for the nice messages. I'm coolio but a bit knackered. And I've got a blister so I'll be doing weights tonight rather than treadmills and cross trainers.

Ooh and weekirst = yes please to the cuppa!

Edit: do we think it'd be a bit pretentious to put my coming-home-date in the calendar? I'm counting down to it!
(Eds Meds Mathskillz=1,Socialskillz=0, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 8:59, Reply)

Ed
put it in the calender!

you're obviously pretty excited about it, so shout it from the rooftops
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 9:01, Reply)

@Vipros
Damn straight! Can't wait to come home - and won't ever complain about dodgy weather in the UK again (even though I'll be coming out here again twice in September :().
(Eds Meds Mathskillz=1,Socialskillz=0, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 9:02, Reply)

where do you call home
when you are back here?
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 9:04, Reply)

@ed
sorry i'm being proper dense this morning, where are you?
Milk/sugar?
(weekirst23 Is broken! Silly ice. Silly High heels!, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 9:05, Reply)

@Vipros / weekirst
Vipros - 0505 23 August 2008 LHR T5 (home's Greenwich, about a mile from the observatory near the park)

Weekirst - Hong Kong, and a wee splash o' milk please
(Eds Meds Mathskillz=1,Socialskillz=0, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 9:07, Reply)

I like Greenwich
my brother lives a short distance away and got married at the Ranger's House on Black Heath

we then had a stroll through Greenwich Park to the reception at the Trafalger. very nice.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 9:13, Reply)

Yes it's...
...absolutely lovely there! Greenwich Park is also one of Henry's favourite places not least of which because it's full of kids with ice creams and chocolate and they seem determined to feed him. He get's very excited (in a good way) around kids. (In fact, around all humans, thinking about it!).
(Eds Meds Mathskillz=1,Socialskillz=0, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 9:15, Reply)

I wish I could get a dog
wouldn't be fair on it at the moment though. my gf and I work too much and are garden is just concrete at the moment
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 9:17, Reply)

Morning Edmund, morning all.
How do on this fine day?
(Ethelred is watching cheese grow, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 9:18, Reply)

@ed
Ooh I'd love to go out there. It sounds amazing! Have you had a good time over there? (travelling next year, might do a stop over for a few days)
(weekirst23 Is broken! Silly ice. Silly High heels!, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 9:18, Reply)

...
Hong Kong's hot and sweaty and occasionally typhoony(!) at this time of year. It's also really interesting to see so much humanity cramped into such a small piece of land, together with the huge (and I mean MASSIVE) disparities between those at the top of the pile and those at the bottom, all of whom live so close together. Almost makes me want to be a socialist!
(Eds Meds Mathskillz=1,Socialskillz=0, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 9:30, Reply)

I've only ever passed through Hong Kong on the way to Thailand.
Would be lovely to visit although not at the hot and sweaty time of the year and I don't do crowds very well.


So maybe it's not such a good idea then : (
( girlinthehole, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 9:39, Reply)

@ed
well, i'm afraid I would be going mainly as a voyeur of the whole mix of humananity
(weekirst23 Is broken! Silly ice. Silly High heels!, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 9:44, Reply)

@BGB/weekirst
@BGB - HKIA is used as a major transit point for loads of other flights here. I'm off to Sydney next week for the day (wtf?!)

@weekirst - the voyeurism is entirely understandable! btw, try not to work here, it's absolutely ridiculous.
(Eds Meds Mathskillz=1,Socialskillz=0, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 9:48, Reply)

Very rock and roll!
Happy Birthday!
*snogs*
( Cawl, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 9:49, Reply)

Woo!
Happy birthday ancrenne!!!!
(Eds Meds Mathskillz=1,Socialskillz=0, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 9:49, Reply)

@ ancrenne
was the probing a present, or a formality for your doctor's visit?
(Ethelred is watching cheese grow, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 9:50, Reply)

@ancrenne
HAPPY BIRTHDAY

Have some very large cakes.


( Mrs Entity is in hiding., Tue 12 Aug 2008, 9:52, Reply)

@ed
No plans to work there. I don't think I could handle the hot sweatyness for more than a few of days :) I'm a scot. I like cooler climates! (Arealisation slowly dawning on me as a start to plan a trip around asia/australia. Still it means i can give up the 9/5 for a good long while :)

edit - Happy birthday ancrenne!
(weekirst23 Is broken! Silly ice. Silly High heels!, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 9:52, Reply)

Happy Birfday, Ancrenne!
And, g'morning to everyone else!

*pogos*
( Devil_In_Tights the *real* DiT!, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 9:52, Reply)

@MrsL
HUGE cakes!

Edit: @weekirst - agreed, it's ridiculously hot here for us wee scots.
(Eds Meds Mathskillz=1,Socialskillz=0, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 9:53, Reply)

@Ed
The are rather large!

I'd make them smaller if I knew how.
( Mrs Entity is in hiding., Tue 12 Aug 2008, 9:54, Reply)

@mrsL
I could nom them - that'd make 'em disappear! (I haven't had lunch today yet, and it's just before 5pm)
(Eds Meds Mathskillz=1,Socialskillz=0, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 9:56, Reply)

Woo! happy birthday ancrenne.
Have fun!
( girlinthehole, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 9:57, Reply)

happy birthday!
bah, not even 10 o'clock and I'm already bored....
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 9:58, Reply)

*coughs*
Nothing like a morning-inappropriation...

*grins*
( Cawl, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 10:03, Reply)

I love making cakes
but no-one here (in my house) eats them.
( Mrs Entity is in hiding., Tue 12 Aug 2008, 10:04, Reply)

I found out last night
That one of my best friends doesn't like biscuits.
They were chocolate hobnobs too.

I've known him for ten years too... How odd.
( Cawl, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 10:06, Reply)

How the shit
can you not like biscuits?

I understand not liking one kind of biscuit but all biscuits.
( Mrs Entity is in hiding., Tue 12 Aug 2008, 10:08, Reply)

I would gladly help you hack the bindweed out of your garden
better than sitting at my desk in the office!
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 10:08, Reply)

@kaol
Chocolate hob nobs are the dogs balls of chocolate covered oat based biscuits! How odd.
(weekirst23 Is broken! Silly ice. Silly High heels!, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 10:08, Reply)

Crikey!
They am ver' big caeks!

I pick up my new glasses today, and that's about as exciting as it's going to get!

*minor woo*
( Devil_In_Tights the *real* DiT!, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 10:10, Reply)

I wouldn't trust anyone who doesn't like biscuits.
It's not normal.

Got the bulk of my work done already today and so just coasting again now.

I may have to go surfing the net to buy something.
( girlinthehole, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 10:11, Reply)

Yeah, t'was a bit strange.
He'll eat cake though, he was happily munching Jaffa Cakes.

If anyone so much as mentions "Oh, are Jaffa Cakes a cake or a biscuit, lol!", they're going on ignore.
The clue's in the name, retard.
( Cawl, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 10:11, Reply)

Kaol:
but names can be misleading....




(I think they are cakes)
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 10:12, Reply)

Happy Birthday Ancrenne
I'm suffering from severe post-lag this morning.
(Bicycle Repairman "you're also a bit of a wanker", Tue 12 Aug 2008, 10:12, Reply)

Yes Kaol.
Then why is shortbread not a bread but a biscuit?
( girlinthehole, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 10:12, Reply)

The answer to the jaffa cake question is about what happens when they go stale
When a biscuit go stale it get soft. When a cake goes stale it gets hard. (Fnnar fnnar, arf arf).
( Mrs Entity is in hiding., Tue 12 Aug 2008, 10:14, Reply)

They are cakes!
Because, if left to go stale, they go hard. If a biscuit is left to go stale, it goes soggy. They paid scientist huge wads of cash in brown envelopes to prove that.

And let that be an end of it.

MY TOP BISCUITS:

1) Chocolate Hob-Nobs
2) Bourbons
3) Jaffa Cakes
4) Garibaldi
5) Millionaire Shortbread

EDIT:

Damn, liveinabin got there first.

Also, I think short bread is made out of short pastry, meaning it is a kind of bread but is more biscuity. I am probably very wrong!
( Devil_In_Tights the *real* DiT!, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 10:15, Reply)

morning all
I have a non-biscuit-related question:

what is it, exactly, that Meatloaf won't do for love?
(happylittletulip helpless and delicious, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 10:16, Reply)

*puts DiT on ignore for rest of week*
*frowns*
( Cawl, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 10:16, Reply)

He won't screw around.
Viz:

"Sooner or later you'll be screwing around"
"I won't do that"

EDIT: That's a bit off Kaol. Liveinabin did it too. And I didn't ask the question, I explained the answer. So ner.
( Devil_In_Tights the *real* DiT!, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 10:16, Reply)

I
can't believe that no-one's come up with Boasters yet? Nom nom nom Boastery goodness...
(Eds Meds Mathskillz=1,Socialskillz=0, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 10:17, Reply)

Go stale?
Who leaves biscuits to go stale. They're always eaten before they have the chance to go stale in my house.
( girlinthehole, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 10:17, Reply)

Can cat/dog biscuits
Go stale?
Would they go hard or soft?
Should they be called dog cakes?
( Cawl, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 10:18, Reply)

Dit
The short in Shortbread is short for Shorting which is a generic term for solid fat i.e. butter or lard.


I made some shortbread the other day and it is comprised of flour, sugar, butter and.........semolina!
( Mrs Entity is in hiding., Tue 12 Aug 2008, 10:20, Reply)

@Kaol
Surely a catcake is one where you take a cat and bake it?
(Eds Meds Mathskillz=1,Socialskillz=0, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 10:20, Reply)

@ HLT
DiT is right,

After a while you'll forget everything
It was a brief interlude and a midsummer night's fling
And you'll see that it's time to move on

I won't do that! no i won't do that!
...

...Sooner or later you'll be screwing around"
"No, I won't do that."
(Ethelred is watching cheese grow, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 10:26, Reply)

Morning folks
I feel fucking awful.
Chucked up a gutful of lasagne at about 3 this morning, soaked on the way to work. Feel all shaky and nauseous, and played footie on Sunday so I ache all over and I'm drowning in lactic acid:(

Apart from that all is good
( Boss Keloid Got your mother's maiden name tattooed on my arm, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 10:28, Reply)

4HLT - from Wikipedia
Perceived ambiguity of "that"
Each verse comprises two things that he would do for love, followed by one thing that he would not do. It is that latter part of each verse that is the "that" of the title. However, some people misunderstand the lyrics, claiming that the singer never identifies what the "that" is which he is unwilling to do.[9] Steinman predicted this confusion during production.[10] An early episode of the VH1 program Pop-up Video made this claim at the end of the song's video: "Exactly what Meat Loaf won't do for love remains a mystery to this day."[11] A reviewer writing for Allmusic also misunderstood the lyric, commenting that "The lyrics build suspense by portraying a romance-consumed lover who pledges to do anything in the name of love except "that," a mysterious thing that he will not specify."[7] While the reviewer concludes that the mystery is revealed during the closing stages of the song, it is not observed that "that" is revealed in every chorus throughout.

Although some people assume that "that" is an exophoric reference to a sex act,[12] it is actually an anaphoric reference to the varying activities and feelings that are specified as antecedents in the lyric that the singer says that he won't do.

Jimmy always said, "You know what? Nobody's gonna get it." And he was right.
Meat Loaf[10]
"I'll never lie to you ..."
"I'll never forget the way you feel right now ..."
"I'll never forgive myself if we don't go all the way tonight ..."
"I'll never do it better than I do it with you ..."
"I'll never stop dreaming of you every night of my life ..."
In addition, the female vocalist identifies two other things that the lead singer denies that he will do: "You'll see that it's time to move on" and "You'll be screwing around." To both of these, the lead singer emphatically responds, "I won't do that! No, I won't do that!"

Meat Loaf says that the question "what is 'that'?" is one of the most popular questions he is asked.[12] In his 1998 VH1 Storytellers special, he even explained it on stage using a blackboard and a pointing stick. In a 1993 promotional interview, Steinman states that the definition of "that" is fully revealed in the song in each of the several verses in which it is mentioned.

It's sort of is a little puzzle and I guess it goes by - but they're all great things. 'I won't stop doing beautiful things and I won't do bad things.' It's very noble. I'm very proud of that song because it's very much like out of the world of Excalibur. To me, it's like Sir Lancelot or something - very noble and chivalrous. That's my favorite song on the record - it's very ambitious.[13][14]
(Eds Meds Mathskillz=1,Socialskillz=0, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 10:28, Reply)

Chesney Hawkes
Is on This Morning!

Bless, he doesn't look any older.
( Mrs Entity is in hiding., Tue 12 Aug 2008, 10:35, Reply)

Happy Birthday Ancrenne
*adminsters big birthday squeeze*
( thealternativefact, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 10:36, Reply)

Birthday?
Happy birthday Ancrenne!
( Boss Keloid Got your mother's maiden name tattooed on my arm, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 10:37, Reply)

@ Devil and Ed
Good, I'm glad we got that cleared up.

thanks
(happylittletulip helpless and delicious, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 10:39, Reply)

I'm going to have to
Eat petfood in the name of science...
Great...

*frowns*

I'll avoid the fish-shaped ones.
( Cawl, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 10:39, Reply)

@ Kaol
There are so many rude puns to do with your sig, let alone the current one.
(Ethelred is watching cheese grow, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 10:41, Reply)

Well, make as many as you want
I may rotate it occasionally.
( Cawl, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 10:42, Reply)

Dog Biscuits Taste Okay
At least the ones with charcoal in - settles the tum but does odd things to your poo.

Or so I have been told.

Ahem.

*whistles*
(osok Rebel without a clue, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 10:44, Reply)

Oh, and a confession
*gulp*

I don't like cake. Or any sweet biscuity thing. Or chocolate. Or sweeties.

I'll make 'em, but I don't eat them.

Does this make me the B3TA equivalent of the Elephant Man (I am NOT an animal!)?
(osok Rebel without a clue, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 10:48, Reply)

Cat biscuits
Ive tasted them. In the interests of science of course. Salty and very very hard. you could break a tooth!





(i was a strange child)
(weekirst23 Is broken! Silly ice. Silly High heels!, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 10:50, Reply)

Weekirst!
Even better!
*grins*
( Cawl, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 10:53, Reply)

I don't particularly
Like kittens.
It's ok osok, you're not as much of a freak as you seem to be at first.
( Cawl, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 10:55, Reply)

^Kaol
Lovely.

Not too fussed by kittens either.
( thealternativefact, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 10:58, Reply)

@Kaol
Ta. I think......

Quack.

Off to chauffeur the spawn so TTFN.

May stop for a grilled kitten in a bun on the way back.
(osok Rebel without a clue, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 11:02, Reply)

Eh! does not compute.
I thought this place was strictly for kitten loving biscuit scoffers.

God! they'll let anyone in nowadays.
( girlinthehole, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 11:09, Reply)

woo
yey for cookies bigger than my face
(Ethelred is watching cheese grow, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 11:11, Reply)

Soup
I'm not sure what to do about the soup - I think I might save it for his birthday, which isn't until October. Ages away though!

Be assured that his reaction will be documented.
( thealternativefact, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 11:13, Reply)

Gods own biscuit
Fox's Classic - why does no-one ever mention Fox's in a biscuit discussion?
(bazmorningstar efil4nat3b, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 11:21, Reply)

@baz
Foxes classic. Atruly underrated biscuit i agree. Does anyone ermember Gypsy creams? They were in an orange packet. Devine :)
(weekirst23 Is broken! Silly ice. Silly High heels!, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 11:25, Reply)

Gypsy Creams?
Sounds like a porn-star name.
( Cawl, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 11:27, Reply)

Gypsy Creams
Does she? How very interesting ...

*twirls moustache in a Leslie Phillips stylee*
(Eds Meds Mathskillz=1,Socialskillz=0, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 11:29, Reply)

speaking of Fox's
*eats glacier mint*

nom
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 11:29, Reply)

Ah!
Glacier mints!
Excellent stuff!

I ate a packet of them with a friend while we saw The Dark Knight.

I'm currently eating throat sweets, as I've got some fucked-up problem with my speaking tubes.
A two-hour band session last night with lots of singing did not help me.
( Cawl, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 11:32, Reply)

I hadn't had a glacier mint in ages
and our receptionist has a bag on her desk. I liberated one on my way past. delicious!

not as good as mint imperials though
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 11:35, Reply)

Yes!
You speak the truth my bearded comrade.

The best mint imperials are the Bassets ones, in the paper tube-packet.
( Cawl, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 11:36, Reply)

Have never been a big fan of mint in any form
Good in a Mojito though.
(bazmorningstar efil4nat3b, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 11:37, Reply)

I like soft and chewy
Soft mints.
(Ethelred is watching cheese grow, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 11:37, Reply)

@ ancrenne
fruity flapjacks, especially cherry. nom nom
(Ethelred is watching cheese grow, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 11:39, Reply)

@ancrenne
Fruit? Or have I broken some young person healthy food taboo?
(bazmorningstar efil4nat3b, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 11:40, Reply)

I saw on t'internet sometime
a bag of mint imperial stormtroopers

they were great.

there are glacier fruits on the desk also. I'm more of a mint person than fruity sweet I think so I will leave them.

@Ancrenne: you're going to be very close by for the festival, and I'm going to be envious
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 11:41, Reply)

Vipros
You're right...
You did taste minty...
( Cawl, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 11:46, Reply)

for my part (fnarr)
I was surprised at the tenderness ;-)


now I feel weird...
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 11:47, Reply)

What can I say...
I have a lovely mouth...
( Cawl, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 11:51, Reply)

and the Ned Beatty role for Deliverance II (the spadging)
goes to....






Kaol!
(bazmorningstar efil4nat3b, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 11:52, Reply)

the evening is a bit of a blur
but did you grab my beard and pull my head towards you?

that would just seem so wrong to me, even more so than being on the recieving end
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 11:53, Reply)

Thanks baz...
Yep, that's exactly what I did to you Mr. V.

The problem with that venue was that it was £4 for a quad vodka, and I fear I over-indulged...
( Cawl, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 11:55, Reply)

I thought so
I'd only managed 4 or 5 pints at that point. not yet had any jaegermeister

was pretty rock and roll when we got back to our drummers place and cracked open a few bottles of champagne.

we've had places clamouring at us to play gigs now, which is cool. the hub was the only place that didn't want to pay us.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 11:59, Reply)

I was only a few inches away
from the whole beard-grabbing, mouth-exploring incident.
I'm still recovering.
( thealternativefact, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 12:00, Reply)

Clendrix: I can imagine how that
would have a profound effect on you. I'm going to read into your words that it was a positive experience for you.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 12:02, Reply)

See, I know it
Happened, but there's no image of it in my head.
It's more like writing with no pictures.

Likely for the best.

What I can't believe about that night was the fact that I got a crippling hangover before we'd even left the venue.
( Cawl, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 12:04, Reply)

Oh yes,
very positive indeed.
*coughs*

I only get lovely hugs from Kaol, so I'm happy about that.

So much work to do and feeling restless and stressed, so I have Tool blasting from my little speakers and I'm feeling better already.
( thealternativefact, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 12:07, Reply)

Tool FTW!
hangover before you left?

I hate those usually a sign that you haven't drunk enough.

mmm, butternut squash and red pepper soup.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 12:11, Reply)

Oh!
What Tool, specifically?
I had a fantastic listen to Undertow on the train back from London on Sunday.

We're listening to Johnny Truant in my office today, good and loud.
Earlier it was Master Of Puppets though... Mmmm...
( Cawl, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 12:11, Reply)

Tool!
10,000 Days - I love Vicarious.

Master of Puppets FTW - the day I first heard that, I realised what I'd been missing.
( thealternativefact, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 12:16, Reply)

The Pot off 10,000 days is my favourite
I need to get that album on my Ipod. I've not devoted enough time to it.

lateralus changed my life

MoP is also awesome. need to get that on the pod too
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 12:19, Reply)

The Pot is fantastic
I must say that I prefer Anemia (the song) though.

All good stuff though!

Been listening to that Chat Noir album in the car, t'is rather good!
( Cawl, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 12:34, Reply)

Lateralus made me love metal again
For equally highbrow metal, I recommend Opeth. 'Ghost Reveries' will make you weep with joy.
(bazmorningstar efil4nat3b, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 12:37, Reply)

I thoroughly enjoyed le chat noir's set
anema is a fantastic song, you are right
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 12:38, Reply)

The Pot is playing now.
I've been to see Tool twice, once at a big stadium, once at a smaller venue. So good live.

Really liking that Chat Noir stuff too - will share it around.
( thealternativefact, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 12:39, Reply)

tool
I saw them in cardiff

started off quite poor. there's a song on lateralus that has a really droning bass and it sounded awful live, second song they played or something. really cut through my brain, but after that they were incredible
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 12:40, Reply)

Stinkfist
was the tune they opened with in Dublin last time they visited. Good enough show. they could use a second guitarist for their live set in my opinion. Annoying, given they draft in James Iha for the 'A Perfect Circle' gigs.
(bazmorningstar efil4nat3b, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 12:41, Reply)

Don't know when they're touring next
but sounds like I'll have someone to go with, somewhere!
( thealternativefact, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 12:48, Reply)

I saw them once at Reading
And was all set to see them at Download, but my ex kept moaning "they're boring" and "can't we go and see HIM instead".
*frowns*

One of the many reasons she's my ex.
( Cawl, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 12:48, Reply)

I don't like Tool all that much
But I do like biscuits and kittens.
( Mrs Entity is in hiding., Tue 12 Aug 2008, 12:49, Reply)

I'm gutted
I didn't know some of you guys a bit better before monster magnet played in london a little while ago.

I couldn't find anyone to go with to that :-(

*cries*
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 12:50, Reply)

Jumping in to the Tool Conflab...
Lateralus made my head explode, I loved it.

and, on 10,000 days, 'Rosetta Stoned' is my favourite. But I really really like 'The Pot', 'Wings for Marie' and 'Vicarious'.

Maynard's voice... wow, just... Wow.
( Devil_In_Tights the *real* DiT!, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 12:53, Reply)

@all of the Tool fans here
Are you familiar with Maynards other band, 'A Perfect Circle'?
(bazmorningstar efil4nat3b, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 12:55, Reply)

I heard something at some point
about Maynard getting together with the living members of Alice in Chains to do some of their old stuff

edit: I love A Perfect Circle
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 12:56, Reply)

Alice In Chains collaboration would be cool
He also features on 'Passenger' on Deftones, 'White Pony' album.
(bazmorningstar efil4nat3b, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 12:57, Reply)

I feckin' Love
A Perfect Circle.

Who'da thought it? A ginuwine little metalhead population!
( Devil_In_Tights the *real* DiT!, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 12:58, Reply)

APC are fantastic
Not such a fan of eMotive, but Passive is one of their best songs.

I'm off to lunch now.
Alcohol needed, stat.
( Cawl, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 13:00, Reply)

From dehumanisation to arms production
Fabulous opener that. P'raps the 'ginuwine little metal' community should look into a bash based around a Tool gig or band of similar quality, Opeth, Deftones, The Mars Volta, Porcupine Tree...

I'd book a plane ticket for that.
(bazmorningstar efil4nat3b, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 13:05, Reply)

I'd be up for some kind of bash like that
love to see porcupine tree

heard of pure reason revolution? they supported porcupine tree on their last tour. Mrs Vipros is good friends with their drummer. went to primary school together.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 13:07, Reply)

Voyage 34
Vipros, have you heard it? Me and my mates used to drop acid and try to figure out its hidden meaning. Turns out it was a warning AGAINST!

'Is this trip really necessary?'
(bazmorningstar efil4nat3b, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 13:10, Reply)

Jumps on the Tool train
Aenima's still my favourite album.
As for APC, 3 Libras is an astonishing song.

*edit* @baz
Saw Deftones last year, and found them a tad disappointing.
( Boss Keloid Got your mother's maiden name tattooed on my arm, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 13:10, Reply)

And... I'm off to see Clutch on Sunday
Without a doubt, the best band I've ever seen live. This'll be the third time I've seen them.
( Boss Keloid Got your mother's maiden name tattooed on my arm, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 13:13, Reply)

Clutch...Tool?
Have I stumbled upon a thread about Top Gear?
( girlinthehole, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 13:16, Reply)

Nay, miss Blouse
Tis be metal!
( Boss Keloid Got your mother's maiden name tattooed on my arm, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 13:19, Reply)

I've got some clutch on my ipod on someone's (baz?) recommendation
good stuff

I was into the deftones for the first couple of albums. never got into white pony though, got to whingy for my liking.

edit: @baz. I've not heard that album I'll have to check it out
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 13:19, Reply)

Clutch
should be on everyone's iPod.
Only metal gig I've been to where everyone danced rather than moshing/ headbanging.
( Boss Keloid Got your mother's maiden name tattooed on my arm, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 13:21, Reply)

Ah! music....
The last time I was into metal, Guns and Roses were just starting to get famous.
( girlinthehole, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 13:22, Reply)

@Vipros
Clutch wasnt me - I think you pricked your ears up to dEUS on my reccy.

Clutch I will investigate given I've just read Per Wiberg of Opeth collaborated with them. Funny how association works.

I dont like the first two Deftones record - White Pony and Deftones are my preferred ones. Saturday Night Wrist has moments but should have been mostly a Team Sleep (Chino's other band) record for my 2 cents.
(bazmorningstar efil4nat3b, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 13:23, Reply)

We've got to get some photos of my band taken tonight
for promotional poster purposes.

It's going to be sans instruments, so I have no idea what we should be going for.

I suspect it will look like a photo of 5 blokes standing about

Edit: sounds like it was BK who switched me on to Clutch
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 13:24, Reply)

@BK
At The Drive-In/The Mars Volta have a blanket ban on moshing at their gigs. Gotta git yo funk on, son! (Apologies to the African -American community).

edit - I think Deftones peaked a while back. Wont be arsing meself with them for a bit. Heard any Team Sleep?
(bazmorningstar efil4nat3b, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 13:25, Reply)

Anyone wants gig-mate in London
in future, gaz me. Very little I won't go and see live.
( thealternativefact, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 13:32, Reply)

@baz
Yeah, spoilsports.
I loved ATDI, haven't heard much Mars Volta after Deloused in the Comatorium, which I did enjoy.

*edit* better get some work done. I shall be back this evening, probably listening to Clutch.
( Boss Keloid Got your mother's maiden name tattooed on my arm, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 13:32, Reply)

*runs in*
*rocks out*

*throws glitter*

*passes around metal appreciation cakes*

*runs out again*
( wanderlust, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 13:39, Reply)

*tackles wanderlust*
*tickles*
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 13:39, Reply)

*screams like a girl*
*remembers she is a girl*

*tugs on Vipros' beard*
( wanderlust, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 13:41, Reply)

*sees wanderlust*
*giggles*
*looks at alan*
*sighs*
( thealternativefact, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 13:42, Reply)

lucky it's firmly attached
and can take a good tugging ;-)
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 13:48, Reply)

@clendrix
I'm thinking of starting up my own business making pictures of cheese covered celebrities.

Tom Selleck surrounded by gouda.
Phillip Schofield surrounded by edam.
Britney Spears surrounded by a nice bit of gorgonzola.

Order now for low prices. Quality not guaranteed.
( wanderlust, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 13:52, Reply)

mmm
i'll have a Tom Selleck please :)
(weekirst23 Is broken! Silly ice. Silly High heels!, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 13:53, Reply)

wanderlust
Sounds brilliant!

I'll have Jack Black, surrounded by mismatched and excessive cheese, please!
( thealternativefact, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 13:57, Reply)

This cheesey rubbish is utterly asinine
but can I have Johnny Marr in Camembert and Morrissey in Mozzarella?
(bazmorningstar efil4nat3b, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 13:59, Reply)

I'll take a
Cheddar Depp please.
( Cawl, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 14:02, Reply)

Kaol is like cat biscuits?
Do you expand greatly and go all fluffy when you fall into the adjacent water bowl?
( thealternativefact, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 14:07, Reply)

I'll have a Cleese Cheese
wonder please.

@ Clendrix - I'm sure it'll be more like a Mogwai / Gremlin
(Ethelred is watching cheese grow, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 14:07, Reply)

Clendrix
No...

I'm hard in your mouth at first, but you'll wake up full of salty paste.
( Cawl, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 14:08, Reply)

Happy birthday, ancrenne!
Here, have a West Virginia birthday cake:


( The Resident Loon Not a demographic. Do not measure., Tue 12 Aug 2008, 14:11, Reply)

Yay! Loon.
She's going to love that.

Alcohol and pretty candles together.
( girlinthehole, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 14:15, Reply)

My mouth?
*frowns*

Naughty boy.
( thealternativefact, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 14:31, Reply)

Hahaha!
I'm afraid that frowning is a trademark of Kaol Incorporated, and as such I shall see you in court.
( Cawl, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 14:34, Reply)

Kaol
Oh you will, will you?

I was frowning a good fourteen years before you appeared, sonny jim. Now I just frown more.

*frowns bigly*
( thealternativefact, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 14:37, Reply)

Ahh
The frowning older lady, is there anything to compete against such bliss?
(Ethelred is watching cheese grow, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 14:38, Reply)

Before any of the rest of you think of it,
I hereby patent *scowl*ing.

*scowls*

Afternoon all, and happy birthday Ancrenne!
(wellgroomedwookiee is a filthy-minded hobgoblin, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 14:39, Reply)

That may be so
But "Kaol" is an honary title, passed down from gentleman to gentleman, throughout the ages.

The new Kaol must challenge the old one to a duel with knives.

To the death.

Previous Kaols include Kaol "Jack the Ripper" Smith, Grigori Kaol Rasputin, Gengis Kaol Kahn and of course Vlad "the Impaler" Kaol Tepes.

So yeah... Now you know. It's older than 14 years.
( Cawl, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 14:42, Reply)

Kaol
Behave yourself, young man.

Wookiee - nothing outrageous or grim to add to the conversation? You OK?
( thealternativefact, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 14:45, Reply)

@ancrenne
How's your birthday day been so far?
( girlinthehole, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 14:46, Reply)

I will be there on the 23rd with bells on.
Well, not bells, but maybe a hat. We shall see.
(wellgroomedwookiee is a filthy-minded hobgoblin, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 14:51, Reply)

Aw! festivaling
*jealouses*

I shall be helping my sister move house.
( girlinthehole, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 15:01, Reply)

*puts pinny on and heads to the kitchen*
*biscuit making noises*
( Mrs Entity is in hiding., Tue 12 Aug 2008, 15:06, Reply)

Hallo?
Anyone there?





ECHO!

*echo* _*echo*

I'm all alone. What shall I do to pass the time?
( Devil_In_Tights the *real* DiT!, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 15:35, Reply)

hello
your not on your own, i justy thought everyone else had gone!
(weekirst23 Is broken! Silly ice. Silly High heels!, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 15:37, Reply)

@DIT
answer the following puzzlers:

Why is Bob Holness no longer on telly?

Why is Noel Edmunds back on telly?
(bazmorningstar efil4nat3b, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 15:38, Reply)

I'm here for another 20 minutes.
Those puzzlers puzzle me.
Can anyone actually answer them?
( thealternativefact, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 15:39, Reply)

why IS bob holness no longer on tele?
that's going to get to me, I can tell!
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 15:40, Reply)

Fuck me...
Bob's eighty this year!
( thealternativefact, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 15:41, Reply)

*presents biscuits to b3tans*

( Mrs Entity is in hiding., Tue 12 Aug 2008, 15:41, Reply)

@Baz
Okey dokey!

Noel Edmonds is back on telly because he asked it of the cosmos, and the cosmos did give him a game show to present. Which just goes to show it's the cosmos at fault here. Or endemol, it's one of the two.

Bob Holness should be back on telly, this much is true. Sadly he won't, as he has found greater fame playing as the pitcher for the American Baseball team the Boston Red Sox.

I hope that clears things up.
( Devil_In_Tights the *real* DiT!, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 15:43, Reply)

Bob Holness
(or Bob Hotness as I tend to call him)

Lives near me.

This makes me cool.
( wanderlust, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 15:44, Reply)

@Mrs Bin
You get younger every week : )
( girlinthehole, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 15:45, Reply)

@DIT
You sir, are a grand knower of things dappled and varied. I suggest you make that your profile for, oh, say, 3 days?
(bazmorningstar efil4nat3b, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 15:45, Reply)

@BGB
only when I have biscuits.

Bob Holness was the second man to play James Bond. In a radio adaptation for South African radio.

He did NOT play saxophone on Baker Street.

Edit - to correct factual error!
( Mrs Entity is in hiding., Tue 12 Aug 2008, 15:47, Reply)

re: Bond
eh? Who was the first then?
(bazmorningstar efil4nat3b, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 15:56, Reply)

Barry Nelson
In Casino Royale
( Mrs Entity is in hiding., Tue 12 Aug 2008, 15:58, Reply)

Buggering bollock brains!
My induction at the gym this evening has been cancelled because the girl is ill.

I was all psyched (sp?) up for it. Ready to do the 'eye of the tiger thing'.

I guess it's a curry and a bottle of plonk then.
( girlinthehole, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 15:59, Reply)

Actually...
It was Peter Ustinov.

See my sig for proof.

EDIT: may be a completely baseless and untrue fact...
( Devil_In_Tights the *real* DiT!, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 16:00, Reply)

not doubting anyones veracity
but we can please have sources re: Bond ?

thanks
(bazmorningstar efil4nat3b, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 16:02, Reply)

Roger Moore as 007
Who's stupid idea was that I wonder?

Sean Connery FTW!
( girlinthehole, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 16:02, Reply)

Casino Royale
Was a made for TV film in 1954

Only source I can find is wikipedia.

@BGB I've got a half open bottle of pink wine. *offers glass*
( Mrs Entity is in hiding., Tue 12 Aug 2008, 16:03, Reply)

Dont knock the Moore!
No other human being in the history of the world could look cool in a leisure suit.
(bazmorningstar efil4nat3b, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 16:03, Reply)

I need to
Roger Moore
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 16:05, Reply)

Ooo! Mrs Bin
I shouldn't really as I'm driving home but ok, just a snifter.
( girlinthehole, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 16:06, Reply)

thanks Mrs L
first I've heard of that one.
(bazmorningstar efil4nat3b, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 16:11, Reply)

200!
Woo!
( Cawl, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 16:12, Reply)

@Baz
The only thing about Moore is that he's the only guy who's ever played James Bond for laughs!
(Eds Meds Mathskillz=1,Socialskillz=0, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 16:17, Reply)

Quick in and out
I've checked my emails, read a bit of b3ta...so now I'm going to work for one hour...solid.

I'll be back to let you know how many words I manage to churn - did over 2000 yesterday...I'm going to see if I can at least match it...apart from anything else I want to know how the story turns out and find out why he fell....

/cryptic

Ta-ta for now!
( chickenlady b3ta's very own Elizabeth Taylor, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 16:18, Reply)

Re. Bond
IMDb states Nelson played Bond as per Mrs L's post here

www.imdb.com/title/tt0310853/

Followed by what most people percieve to be the first Bond Peter Sellers/David Niven here

www.imdb.com/name/nm0625167/

IMDb has wasted many of my afternoons :)
( TGB checking Off Topic is still shit at, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 16:18, Reply)

@Ed
true, but Bond is more than just the character; it's the stories, the gadgets, the villains, the theme tunes and the girls. Q came into his own under Roger Moore's patronage giving us the underwater Lotus for example. Look at Sorin played by Christopher Walken. Great villain. Solitaire played by Jane Seymour - apart from the Contessa in 'Majesty's', my favourite ever Bond girl. Beatles 'Live And Let Die'... etc

Oh, and I love George Lazenby. In 'Majesty's', Bond is at his most human. He falls deeply in love, gets married and loses the great love of his life. This explains why he uses and discards all the others. It's really quite tragic :)
(bazmorningstar efil4nat3b, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 16:24, Reply)

Afternoon all
How are we all?

Anyone care to fill me in on the days happenings to save me time?
(PenguinOfDeath is Scottish, and most likely angry, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 16:32, Reply)

@POD
cake, metal, penguins, Bond, in brief.




edit: EH? Penguins? Sorry, I meant Bob Holness.
(bazmorningstar efil4nat3b, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 16:34, Reply)

I didn't know if you would still be here Ancrenne
But HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!

And that is very rock 'n' roll of you. No jelly and ice cream?
(PenguinOfDeath is Scottish, and most likely angry, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 16:38, Reply)

@ancrenne
I said 'cake'! The pic should give the rest away.

sorry tho'.
(bazmorningstar efil4nat3b, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 16:40, Reply)

oi
and biscuits
( Mrs Entity is in hiding., Tue 12 Aug 2008, 16:43, Reply)

@ ancrenne
Why have you got freezer fluid on you?
(Ethelred is watching cheese grow, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 16:53, Reply)

I'm presuming
Perhaps wrongly, that you mean some sort of freezer cleaning chemicals?

Chemicals aren't generally great to get on you, might want to get them off. Dunno why they smell solventy.
(PenguinOfDeath is Scottish, and most likely angry, Tue 12 Aug 2008, 16:55, Reply)