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I think it just doesn't occur to guys to do that like it does with women.
It's a gender thing.
(, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:39, 3 replies, latest was 15 years ago)
^This
Women are crazy, men are shit.
(, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:40, Reply)
i agree that guys are much less likely to bother with being friendly like that
they won't text/call just for a chat the way that girls do.

but if they fancy you, they'll make the effort to text/call! if they don't, they'll just disappear off the radar because you're not even worth 12p to explain that they haven't died in a freak napalming incident on the way home.
(, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:42, Reply)
It just doesn't occur to men to make you feel wanted like a women would do.
I've never been with a guy who did that. Maybe I've just been unlucky. *shrugs*
(, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:44, Reply)
I'm too polite NOT to text a woman
But if I really really fancy them, then I'll be going mental through fear that I texted too soon and appear too eager, or if she doesn't reply then getting paranoid about it.
(, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:48, Reply)
Relax!
I think the only worry would be if you texed every 5 minutes every day.
(, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:51, Reply)
I doubt I'll be in the situation for a long while
But also hope that if I do, I won't end up being the inspiration for another cringe-inducing comedy film.
(, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:52, Reply)
I tell you what does occur to men
the discovery that a woman's playing head games. You'd be surprised how subtle women aren't. That's guaranteed to not get any kind of contact.

God, if you like somebody let them know. There shouldn't be all these stupid, puerile games.
(, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:42, Reply)
funnily enough
girls do consider that having sex with you is kind of a clue that they like you a little bit (although maybe less than before they had sex with you, that depends how good you were).
(, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:44, Reply)
So after having sex
which, by the way, you may have noticed that men don't read deeply into, you consider that the best way of seeing them again is to not contact them.
(, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:45, Reply)
if i shag someone
who doesn't even have the courtesy to text or call me fairly shortly afterwards, it's a safe bet that i will think he is a twat (not a cunt, it's not interesting enough behaviour for that, it's just a bit twattish) and i will therefore NOT be texting or calling him.

i will be polite and friendly when i see him next, but underneath i will just be thinking "meh, you are a twat," and i will also be telling other females the same thing! whilst he may be relieved not to have to deal with me again, the latter also means that nobody else we have in common will ever shag him, and men should always remember that WOMEN. TALK.
(, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:54, Reply)
Define 'fairly shortly afterwards'
Couple of hours? A day? Immediately after disposing of the condom?
(, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:55, Reply)
if you want a serious answer
it depends how well you know them. if it's casual or even a one-night stand, i'd say anything up to 3-4 days is fine.

purely personally, i wouldn't shag anyone unless i thought i knew them pretty well and there was a bit of mutual liking/friendship there. i then assume that this means even if they are not interested in taking it further romantically that there would be enough to bother preserving the friendship by not behaving like a twat and never calling/texting again. so if you already know them quite well, and there is a history of seeing each other (eg at work) or emailing/texting several times a day, i'd say you should be texting later on that evening just to say "i had a nice time, thank you."
(, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:59, Reply)
I actually agree with you here
Although would a girl actually appreciate the word 'nice' being used?
(, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:01, Reply)
well, you know what i mean!!!
if there is already a relationship there (not in a romantic sense at this stage), there should be enough respect NOT to do a disappearing act and never ask for a second date OR have the common courtesy explain why you don't want there to be one. after all, if the date/sex was pretty mediocre, she is 99% likely to say "phew, i was thinking the same thing, let's be mates!"
(, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:08, Reply)
You can't apply female thinking
to men. Because we don't think like you. A guy will sometimes call that evening and sometimes won't. It really epends on what else is going on. If you're not prepared to send the first text or whatever, you shouldn't expect them to either. Double standards.
(, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:04, Reply)
no, it's tried and tested rules
they only apply the first couple of times. any guy who doesn't call or text after you have sex for the first time should NOT have had sex with you if he didn't like you enough to bother calling you afterwards. or he should have said "this is just for tonight, yeah?" and been honest about it. he might not have got laid, but he wouldn't have been a total douche.

similarly, any guy who doesn't at least offer to pay on the first date is a cheapskate.

i didn't write the rules!
(, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:06, Reply)
Rules, my arse
You may not have written them, but you're blindly following them and it doesn't stop them being utterly ridiculous.
(, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:08, Reply)
i know what sort of behaviour i would think acceptable
it doesn't mean sending me hundreds of pounds of flowers a week, or taking me to 5 star restaurants every date. but it does mean showing me that you are keen enough to pursue me.
(, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:09, Reply)
You aren't the only ones who like to be pursued
if you're sitting back and waiting for the guy to make every move, you'll rapidly find he isn't making any.
(, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:16, Reply)
that's not what i am saying, you are extrapolating it too far
i am saying that, after the first time you spend the night together, i would expect him to text or call within a reasonable period after arriving home or after he knows you have travelled home. because if he doesn't, he's not keen.
(, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:20, Reply)
I find this expectation ok

(, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:21, Reply)
good!
i am making sense then. phew.

now, labs, can you kindly spread it around the rest of your lousy sex? ta!!!
(, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:24, Reply)
I'll send out a memo

(, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:26, Reply)
please do
to: ALL MEN
from: LABS
subject: STOP BEING TWATTISH

thank you.
(, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:31, Reply)
But why is that twattish?
He might be worried that you find him to clingy. Or he might have other problems. He might be going through a rough patch, and you texting/calling him back will brighten his day and make him realise you're a good woman, who doesn't play games, and are worth trying with a second date.
(, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:34, Reply)
maaaaaaybe
but i think that is giving the benefit of the doubt to a guy who was really just after sex!
(, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:50, Reply)
Or, you know, you could.
Because you're a grown-up. He could be sat there thinking "well she obviously doesn't give a shit", for all you know. Then, because you've signed up to a set of behaviours, called them rules rather than guidelines, that almost certainly less than 20% of the population believe to the extent you do, you miss out.

Or not. I just think it's daft to restrict yourself.
(, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:26, Reply)
I'm sorry
But I have to agree with you. I do think it's double standards, and on the first date (or all of them), the bill should be splitted.

As well, if he doesn't call/text in a day or two, and I'm interested on him, I'll text him myself, to see if he's ok and fancy meeting again. I'm the type of woman who's got a lot more male than female friends, and I've listen to too many complaining that they don't know what to do, and why women can't be straight forward.

I learnt my lesson when I was 14, and since them, if I want something, I go for it; if after a couple of weeks together he proves he's crap, then bye.
(, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:31, Reply)
I should probably say
that I actually personally subscribe to a lot of rachelswipe's rules. But that's because I'm an old-fashioned kind of a man. Not many people these days are. I just think it's stupid to restrict yourself to a dying breed.

Particularly in London, where men are all metrosexual, self-centred wankers anyway.
(, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:35, Reply)
I think it's nice to receive a text after sex
and I'll consider that guy above others that don't; but I won't close all the doors to a nice guy just because he hasn't texted me in 4 days. Why should I? Why is the guy the one that has to start everything?
(, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:37, Reply)
*Equality high five*

(, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:38, Reply)
i just think
if he is the kind of guy who won't text me after sex, he is not the kind of guy i really want to waste any more of my precious time on - i'm busy!!
(, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:47, Reply)
i honestly think you are spouting shit!!!
i don't believe there is a man on the planet who could spend the night with a girl, have sex several times, kiss her goodbye etc etc, then go home and think "oh noes, she doesn't like me enough to text me". it's along the lines of "maybe he was too intimidated by the girl's looks/brains/money". there isn't a man on the planet who thinks "oh noes, she was way too good for me, i don't deserve her, better not call her then."

the truth is, if the guy wants a repeat performance, it won't even cross his mind that she might not feel the same way, because he'll be fending off a stiffy from re-living the highlights all the way home, and his blood will be diverted from his brain.
(, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:34, Reply)
No it's probably
"well, she doesn't appear to be the kind of mentalist who texts relentlessly and immediately after sex, I can probably relax a bit."

Then you turn out to be exactly that kind of woman, because you're a woman, only you haven't even bothered to try and get in contact with him, either.

And you lose out again.
(, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:37, Reply)
you're simply wrong
he just couldn't be fucked to text/call once he'd had his dick sucked and got it warm and wet for a few hours.

this makes him a twat.

NEXT!
(, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:46, Reply)
Neither could you
but somehow that's ok because it's you, rather than him. Hypocrisy.
(, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:47, Reply)
he's the guy
i'm the girl.

them's the breaks.
(, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:50, Reply)
Ah, so this is all born
out of simple sexism. How unpleasant.
(, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:51, Reply)
Really?
Is that your experience? I'm sorry you haven't met anyone nicer. I've had sex with good friends, one of them once told me we should stop doing it because he felt I was falling in love with him, and didn't want to hurt me. We're still really good friends and he's invited to the wedding and everything.

There are some crappy guys out there who only think with their cock, but not all of them; the majority are nice people, as scare as you of anything new.
(, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:40, Reply)
i've heard some pretty painful stories
but i suppose if it's only happened to me once in many years of dating, they can't ALL be that bad.

i still hope that one gets cock-rot and dies a slow lingering impotent death though!!!
(, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:45, Reply)
it's just struck me that the last time I slept with someone for the first time was before I even owned a mobile phone.
I must confess that I'm glad to be an old git and not "in the field" as texting and social network sites seem to have made things even more complicated.
(, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:27, Reply)
I don't remember the last time I slept with someone for the first time.
That's not because it was long ago, it was because I was very drunk. Which is awful.
(, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:28, Reply)
You see,
you could use a set of rules :P
(, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:29, Reply)
My very good friend from home assumed he was taking me home as I was too drunk.
Don't ask me what happened instead.
(, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:37, Reply)
You're like some kind of sexual vampire
feeding on the vulnerable and weak.
(, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:39, Reply)
Hey, I was so drunk I could barely stand or talk, and I'm the predator?!

(, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:40, Reply)
Oh, the way you wrote it
made me infer that you jumped him
(, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:40, Reply)
I've no idea who jumped who.

(, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:42, Reply)
How soon?
Because, you know, they're not likely to even think about you for several hours afterwards. What with us being such cunts and all.
(, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:55, Reply)
Is this why women turn into mentals and won't leave me alone after I have sex with them?

(, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:45, Reply)
HAHA!
Good one!
(, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:46, Reply)
I'd never have sex with a woman and then never call/text them again
Unless of course they've killed or maimed me during the act.
(, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:45, Reply)
Of course you and women
don't see the "never call/text them again" in the same light. They're thinking hours, rather than days.
(, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:51, Reply)
well then
many more men should be like you!

it's only ever happened to me once, but if i did a whip-round of all my female friends, i'd say there's an ENORMOUS number of men who fuck you and then fuck you over by never ever calling again!
(, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:52, Reply)
No, keep me unique please!
I'm sure there are guys who've had girls do the same to them. Probably not an equal amount though, I'll give you that.
(, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:54, Reply)
oh god yeah
i've got loads of female friends who've done it too. but i'd say it's about 1:15 girls:guys who behave like that!
(, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:56, Reply)
That high a ratio?
I've never had it happen to me, or done it to anyone, so cannot comment from personal experience.
(, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:58, Reply)
One of my friends does that.
She's evil.
(, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:58, Reply)
I've had it done to me
plenty of times.
(, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:35, Reply)
you shouldn't have let them see your bike
that would be the only explanation
(, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:43, Reply)
I think that sort of thing peters out when a women gets older.

(, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:45, Reply)
sex, you mean!?
[thinking of lack of male potency beyond about 35, not female]
(, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:52, Reply)
No, game playing.

(, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:53, Reply)
Who is Peter? And why are you only mentioning him now?
*Goes to the clinic for a test*
(, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:54, Reply)
Brain scan?

(, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:01, Reply)
Tsk.

(, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:11, Reply)

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