What a morning
Get up at 5:30am and rush to the airport, too much traffic on the road, run to your gate.

Get to Manchester airport, T3, and run to the station to get the first train. The train is delayed. Wait for it fearing you're going to miss the second train.

Arrive to Manchester Piccadilly 3min too late to catch the train. The next train is 1h later. Wait 1h in Piccadilly... not much to do there.

Arrive to Runcorn East; the taxi is late. Wait in the cold wandering why everything's going wrong today.

Start work at 11am; and I need to do 10h today. I don't think I'll go to sleep before 11pm.

And finally, I'm having one of the worse cases of JeffAIDS ever.

On the bright side, we're having our tickets for free to go to Madrid on Thursday, and I'm looking forward to it.

Go on, be nice today. Who are you missing a lot and why? Do you think it's possible to recover the friendship or meet him/her more often?
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:17, 221 replies, latest was 15 years ago)

I don't really miss people
Not much of a people person.
( Kroney, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:18, Reply)

There's a few people I've lost contact with that I miss
but there's no point trying to make contact with them before christmas, I'm busy every weekend until about Jan 15th.
(PsychoChomp, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:19, Reply)

I made contact
with WoW on the weekend. Turns out I'd missed that. My mouse hand's like a claw this morning.
( Kroney, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:22, Reply)

Sorry to hear about the JeffAIDS.
It's a cunt of an illness.
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:22, Reply)

I know
I can't breathe or swallow, and I have a constant beeeep on my ear. No fever yet, though, I think that'll be here tomorrow or Wednesday; but the headaches have started this morning.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:24, Reply)

Seriously, get yourself some Lemsip Max Strength (the dissolvable stuff)
It's fucking magic for colds.
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:25, Reply)

That's a good idea
Unfortunately, by the time I'll arrive to Piccadilly today quite possibly everything will be closed, so it'll have to wait for tomorrow. I'll do with aspirins for today.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:27, Reply)

Can you not nip out at lunch, or ask someone to pick them up for you?

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:28, Reply)

There's nothing around us
Nothing at all. When I forget to bring money I need a cab to take me to a supermarket 10min away from my office.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:48, Reply)

Fookin hell, not good

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:51, Reply)

I think that's bollocks
They're about a fiver for a pack when you might as well have some paracetamol and some hot squash.
(PsychoChomp, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:44, Reply)

*There there*

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:26, Reply)

I miss Singapore Girl.
She told me she's considering travelling after her year finishes, so I might not see her until the end of June, making it 11 months between me seeing her. Plus, she's now pretty determined she won't be coming back to Cheshire after this summer, so looks like I'll be visiting her in Glasgow from time to time.

Won't be easy though.
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:22, Reply)

Can't you move somewhere with her?
Why don't start an adventure? Choose a new country, where you think you both could get a job, and go for it!
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:25, Reply)

The romance has long since passed unfortunately.
And while the thought of moving to Glasgow is one that has crossed my mind several times, I'd only be moving to be nearer to her. What's the point?
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:26, Reply)

I suppose it's just the way I am
But I couldn't live on the same place for so long. Even if it's not for her, don't you feel like going exploring the world, and living in other places? Now that you have nothing to keep you in Mac, why don't you try something more exciting?
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:31, Reply)

I want to, but my feet are firmly anchored to the floor.
I'm always too worried about what could be round the corner. The only things keeping me in Macc are friends, and my job. I'd leave my job the instant something that paid the same came along, but aside from telesales, there's nothing at the moment.
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:33, Reply)

What do you mean there's nothing at the moment?
You could go to South America and travel that part of the continent just working as a waiter or teaching English. In Tenerife, a native English speaker charges 15€/h/people, groups of at least 5 people, just for conversation in English (my mother is paying that)

You don't like your job, go away from it... You may regret later that you haven't done it now: when you have a girlfriend you'll never want to move again unless she wants to do it too.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:39, Reply)

Sadly, I'm a massive wuss
I'm so bad with finances I don't dare travel, or leave this job, because while it's shit, at least I'm still guaranteed pay at the end of each month.
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:40, Reply)

I'd hate to make you feel bad
So I won't say much more on the matter, but you're just 22, aren't you? What can you lose? A crap job? There'd be better ones in a year's time, and you'll have the best experience in your life.

Offer yourself as an aupair in Europe if you are scared of not getting enough money to find a place to sleep. When you come back, you won't be worse than now. It might take you a couple of weeks to find a job, you might have to do telesales for a while until you find something better, and? Is that worse than staying in a work that you don't like and lose the opportunity to spend a year travelling?
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:47, Reply)

Aye, still 22
I think it's a problem I've had in ages, I've never really had the chance to settle properly, not since I was a child. I lived in the same place until I was 16, but was in 7 different schools during that time, for different reasons. After leaving any of them, I had very little contact with any friends I ever had there.

Now it's my choice, and it seems I've chosen to set up a base for myself. Maybe that's why?
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:50, Reply)

Maybe
I'm sure that whatever makes you feel good is the best. I'm completely different and need to move all the time. I'm so excited about changing Manchester for somewhere else :)
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:56, Reply)

My step-daughter.
She rang last night to say that she had had her phone and purse stolen. It leeves you feeling a bit useless when she's 100 miles away and you can only offer phone advice and a bit of financial suppot.
(Cave Duck, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:23, Reply)

Sorry, does she want them back?

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:24, Reply)

That's crap
I hope she's ok and she hasn't lost anything too important.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:26, Reply)

Thank you.
Her friend ended up taking her to A&E as she had a bit of a panic attack. Her pulse and blood pressure where really high, but she seemed much better yesterday.
And of course phones and purses can be replaced (though it was quite an expensive phone and she doesn't have insurance)
(Cave Duck, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:31, Reply)

At least she's ok
and quite possibly, she'd be paying in insurance more than the cost of the phone, so that shouldn't bother her too much.

I'm glad she's feeling better and nothing really bad happened.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:33, Reply)

You really are most kind. I'm not quite sure how you manage empathising/sympathising with everyone about everything into your hectic shedule.

(Cave Duck, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:37, Reply)

She's a love machine

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:38, Reply)

Hahaha!
You know it, babe!
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:39, Reply)

anyone i really care about i see or at least speak to pretty regularly
with some of my friends, though, i really miss how they used to be before they got married, which seems to require them to be in bed before 10pm! plus conversations can get a bit repetitive - i tell them all about everything that's been going on in london, and how busy/exciting work is, and about my recent dates/pulling experiences, and they tell me about... their new carpets and what they are cooking their husbands for dinner over the next week...
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:28, Reply)

Have they all stopped working after they got married?

(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:32, Reply)

the particular handful of girls that i have in mind gave up work, yeah
none of them went back after having babies.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:33, Reply)

I see
So, with all the free time that they have, how come they can't find more exciting things to talk about?

Some of my friends quitted working after having babies, but precisely for that, they're the ones to ask about what's going on in the city, as they have time to check everything out.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:35, Reply)

maybe it's just that i don't find their things exciting?
i am excited by new bars, nice clothes, new men and romance, gossip. they are excited by clothes for the baby and new cafes that allow the baby to do fingerpainting and 2-4-1 offers on baby food at waitrose.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:36, Reply)

new bars, nice clothes, new romance, gossip. they are excited by clothes for the baby and new cafes that allow the baby to do fingerpainting and 2-4-1 offers on baby food at
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:38, Reply)

new men at waitrose?
WAITROSE?

darling, if they want to impress me, i'm going to be looking for harrods/harvey nicks foodhall stuff. waitrose will put a store anywhere, attracts all sorts. there's even one in poynton now, ffs.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:40, Reply)

Sorry, that should say 'I am excited by men and Waitrose'
I'd be more concerned about the one in Sandbach tbh
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:42, Reply)

well yes
but nonetheless, if you think i get excited by waitrose, you have a lot to learn. a LOT.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:43, Reply)

I'm willing to learn
Tbh, I discovered at the weekend I'm no longer able to flirt with women, as I've completely forgotten what to do. It's fucking terrible!
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:44, Reply)

it's not a formula, you muppet
every girl requires different flirting skills. every. single. one.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:46, Reply)

I discovered I have none
My friends tell me I come on too strong, but have no methods in which to help me to realise when I'm fucking up. Not good.
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:47, Reply)

if she is not making lots of eye contact
and/or playing with her hair and/or smiling a lot and/or laughing at your jokes but she is a bit monosyllabic/looking over your shoulder for her mates... you've fucked up
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:54, Reply)

One thing I've heard is that I often start well
Then as I drink, things go downhill. Sadly, I'm a massively nervous person, so am not too sure what else to do.
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:55, Reply)

kill yourself?
practice on ugly girls? plenty of those in macc...
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:58, Reply)

Ugly girls are often the ones I go for, although from time to time I've had lovely ones
I've ruled myself out for the next couple of weeks at least, due to Movember I've currently got some utterly awful facial hair.
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:59, Reply)

You do realise Movember isn't obligatory?

(LongJohnBaldry, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:00, Reply)

I do
It started because me being the bright spark I am, threw away my razor, and I currently can't afford another. However, I'm getting away with my pathetic facial hair for the next couple of weeks, before a thorough shave at month end.
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:02, Reply)

Ah, so Movember has become a convenient excuse?
Fair enough.
(LongJohnBaldry, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:04, Reply)

Precisely!

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:04, Reply)

just like all the ladies in macc, then!

( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:00, Reply)

I work with a woman from Bollington who has a full tache
It's horrific!
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:04, Reply)

buy her a voucher for hestia
it will cost you about £50 though
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:07, Reply)

Manning up would be a good start
Took me years to get over my own issues and there is only one way to do it. Start trying to chat girls up. If you fail, so what?

Also Singapore girl sounds like kind of a dick and not at all interested in making a go of things with you. Get her binned.
( Kroney, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:04, Reply)

Tbh, me and singapore girl are best friends
Last summer, we became more (for the 3rd time), then something happened, we fell out, and decided to stay as friends again. A month or so later, she moved to Singapore for a year, and we've stayed in contact.
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:20, Reply)

Yeah, but everyone's got to start somewhere,
personally I find a good guide is, "try to be more friendly and conversational than determined and gropey."
(LongJohnBaldry, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:48, Reply)

Gropey is not good
Never.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:53, Reply)

nor is sweaty
outside the bedroom or the gym
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:55, Reply)

Well, they get excited with that too
and it's understandable, I think. But then, they know which new plays are on the theatre, they know all the gossiping and keep me updated, they love having a night out a week and try new places and have a couple of beers... I hope I'm that type of mum, and not an obssesive one.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:41, Reply)

it's funny
the girls i thought would be really obsessive are quite chilled, and the ones you'd think would take it in their stride are a nightmare!
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:42, Reply)

They tell you about their new carpets
Whereas you get to dazzle them with tales of new light-fittings.

Sounds like a laugh-a-minute.
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:38, Reply)

one set of new light fittings
one of which is a modern, sleek, sparkly, beautiful chandelier to make my spare room into a proper boudoir!

but i haven't told anyone about them, so there. and also the electrician might be hot...
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:45, Reply)

...or Polish.

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:50, Reply)

you should see the polish delivery boy
that waitrose sends round to me maybe 1 delivery in every 10. jesus christ. he is like some kind of blond haired, blue eyed, rippling-muscled supermarket treat.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:52, Reply)

I miss my old housemate
My liver does not.
(LongJohnBaldry, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:35, Reply)

Same

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:37, Reply)

I'm missing some of my favourite b3tans who live down in Surrey
I might be able to see them just before Christmas, which will be nice
( Maximinimus you stick around I'll make it worth your while, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:38, Reply)

That sounds great
Did you have fun at the weekend?
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:49, Reply)

I did. The rugby was awesome, as were the drinks with my mates on friday and the girl I saw on Saturday ;)

( Maximinimus you stick around I'll make it worth your while, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:04, Reply)

Glad to hear that
It's good to see how things are improving.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:20, Reply)

Thank you
It's not all doom and gloom with me, you see :P
( Maximinimus you stick around I'll make it worth your while, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:34, Reply)

I miss living in a city
where I know more than 2 people who I can go out and have a laugh with. Sad times.
(berk, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:44, Reply)

I've now got 11 people living in the same area as me in MK
it's great it's like being at uni again.
(PsychoChomp, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:46, Reply)

Well, aren't you a lucky bunny?
I do not, and it's shit quite frankly.
(berk, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:48, Reply)

Have you found the pen museum yet?

(LongJohnBaldry, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:48, Reply)

I know where it is
I don't think it's the kind of place I would meet new friends and like-minded people, though.
(berk, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:50, Reply)

Normally, I'd be the type to facetiously say "Well, don't knock it 'til you've tried it"
But on this occasion I imagine you're right...
(LongJohnBaldry, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:54, Reply)

I don't think it's still open according to the interwebs.
:(
(PsychoChomp, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:03, Reply)

Pen museum?
I'm sorry, Hat Museum trumps all.
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:51, Reply)

Or the Keswick Pencil Museum
What a place.
(PenguinOfDeath is Scottish, and most likely angry, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:03, Reply)

haha i've been there!

( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:06, Reply)

They're all lovely people as well
*rubs nose in it*
(PsychoChomp, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:49, Reply)

ha yes
despite years of school in stockport and having friends who live all over it, i am proud to say that i have managed to avoid the hat museum
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:53, Reply)

I'VE BEEN.
We got to learn about them stuffing fluffy little bunnikins into machines to make felt.
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:55, Reply)

omg i would have cried
all we ever got was styal bloody mill. i lost count of how many schooltrips were to styal mill.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:57, Reply)

Styal Mill.
Bloody hell that takes me back. Still want to return to the Museum of Science and Industry, that place was fucking FUN.
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:59, Reply)

Eureka is still the greatest place in the North

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:59, Reply)

I envision this as some huge Wallace and Gromit-style machine
where a fluffy rabbit goes in one end, and a felt hat and shorn rabbit come out the other.
(LongJohnBaldry, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:00, Reply)

yeah......
i don't think the rabbits came out in any shape that you'd show to small children, animated clay format or otherwise....
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:01, Reply)

Oh, if only...
I have a proper rabbit-felt top hat. It's rather beautiful.
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:05, Reply)

I know I'll miss my cat in a matter of hours.
But I'm really kicking myself for not seeing an old friend of mine while I was up here. Not seen him since he'd just come out of hospital for drug-related illness.
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:45, Reply)

Pet?

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:46, Reply)

Did you meet up with AK in the end?

(PsychoChomp, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:47, Reply)

I kinda fucked that one up
But to be honest I wouldn't have been much fun. Also my excuse for not coming to yours might have changed, I now might be going to a gay bar in Sheffield dressed as a pokemon.
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:50, Reply)

How did you manage to fuck that up?
You should go as Machop.
(PsychoChomp, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:53, Reply)

Forgot to text again after the initial "planning"
Texted that day to ask about timings and shit, and Apples had kept her other plans, and I don't have Kitty's number.

Hardiddlyhar. I might turn up half way through the party as Slowpoke.
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:54, Reply)

Should have texted me I have kittys number.
mnggghhh
(PsychoChomp, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:55, Reply)

Well she obviously loves you more than she loves me.

( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:59, Reply)

Well that's almost certainly true.

(PsychoChomp, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:01, Reply)

Fine, pick on the unloved.

( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:04, Reply)

I also have Kitty's number
How do you explain that one, huh?
( Maximinimus you stick around I'll make it worth your while, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:04, Reply)

I'm sure it's on plenty of toilet doors.

(PsychoChomp, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:06, Reply)

is that the noise she made as you pinned her down to get it?

( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:00, Reply)

No, that's the noise he makes when he comes.

( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:04, Reply)

Oh? In my experience he bursts into a chorus of "Simply the best"

(LongJohnBaldry, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:06, Reply)

With me he wouldn't look at me and just rolled over and cried.

( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:09, Reply)

The johnny must have pinged back and hit him on the clockweights...

(LongJohnBaldry, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:13, Reply)

This is an extremely funny thought

(Bazongaloid, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:14, Reply)

Or he realised that the Kitty mask he had made me wear just didn't cover the fact it wasn't her.

( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:14, Reply)

i'm not even going to ask how you know that
because i think the picture you painted in your post is not one that anyone here wants to dwell on.

so. it's bloody cold up here today, there's frost on my car and everything...
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:06, Reply)

Despite the room I'm in probably being bigger than the whole ground floor of my house in London
I'm quite toasty, actually.
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:09, Reply)

my dad's house is always roasting
except my room, where the radiators have been turned off for weeks, i nearly got frostbite somewhere you reeeally don't want when i was naive enough to try and use my bathroom.

the budgie and i are nice and cosy in the study - although it keeps running around the keyboard and stopping my typing, but i can see the garden is all white.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:12, Reply)

Stop whining, it's making you appear unnattractive

(Bazongaloid, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:13, Reply)

it's not just the whining that does that, though
is it al?
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:17, Reply)

I entered my room and almost froze to the spot.
SO FUCKING COLD IN THERE.

Doesn't appear to be any frost here, it's a nice clear sky. Quite pleasant actually.
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:13, Reply)

it is nice and blue over here
still in my pyjamas though, wrestling with this bloody break report.

also had 4 recruitment agents calling me about new jobs this morning. i don't want to move, as my firm is great, my clients are (nearly all) great, and i love my boss. but... all 3 jobs are paying about 20k+ more than i currently earn........ what should i do???
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:22, Reply)

How much extra work would you have to do? If hardly any, do it.
But you're asking a Jew here, I'll always say do the thing with more money. Would you be doing anything particularly different?
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:24, Reply)

exactly the same thing
same hours, same work. but i could get a total bastard of a boss, whereas the current one is pretty much brilliant.

then again, an extra 20k even after being raped for more tax is still quite a lot of cash!
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:30, Reply)

I'd suggest speaking to your current boss
and saying "hey, look, I can get 20 grand for doing the same job somewhere else. How much would you miss me? Speak soon!"
( Kroney, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:32, Reply)

the problem is that if you ask for too much
and you get it, they really want their pound of flesh! i am well aware i already get paid an obscene amount, but then if it's not a competitive salary compared to equivalent firms... i don't want to have the piss taken out of me. but then, i am really happy there, it's a lovely place to work (for a law firm) and that's got to have a cash value too.

i've been having this dilemma for the last 12 months, doubtless i'll be having it in 12 months time.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:36, Reply)

Regardless of how much you get paid
you should be geting paid a competitive amount.
( Kroney, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:39, Reply)

I miss my old housemate and colleague
He moved to Cambridge a year ago, and I rarely get to see him. He's the kind of mate who's perfect for watching a film with, or for going on crazy adventures with.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:12, Reply)

a preposition is the wrong sort of word
to end a sentence up with.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:12, Reply)

I could be wrong
but I thought that was just an old rule from Latin grammar that had dwindled into disuse in most modern European languages?
(LongJohnBaldry, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:15, Reply)

if you want to talk proper, like
you won't disregard it
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:18, Reply)

I must admit, it has led to me constructing sentences which sound quite pompous just so I don't end them with a proposition
I just have an inkling that it's unnecessary.
(LongJohnBaldry, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:20, Reply)

I wonder what the original rule was
seeing as in Latin generally prepositions are always before the noun they govern, with the exception of a few, such as causa

EDIT: I'm thinking about this backwards. In Latin the two are always inextricable, with but in the case of a few the preposition going ahead. It makes a little more sense.
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:19, Reply)

I can take or leave prepositions
sometimes it sounds ridiculous to mangle a sentence to avoid a prep. The famous example being the "up with which I will not put" Churchill quote.
( Kroney, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:38, Reply)

I don't miss The Grammar Badger

( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:15, Reply)

I just texted him to ask if he wants to go see Jackass 3D
He's replied saying he's on a snowmobile in Iceland.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:17, Reply)

The bastard
Well, you can tell him you're riding a camel in the Sahara, or something like that.

Maybe not in the Sahara, as they're almost at war now.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:24, Reply)

Oh, another thing
If you miss someone within minutes or even hours of them leaving, then you're a clingy mentalist.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:22, Reply)

I once got a "miss you" text
about five minutes after I'd left, I wasn't even at the bus stop.
(PsychoChomp, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:24, Reply)

Some people may find this 'cute', but they'd be wrong

( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:27, Reply)

Me and tourettes do this.
It's a laugh.
( girlinthehole, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:28, Reply)

i don't believe in texting guys after a first date/when drunk/high etc, ever
after all, you want to get a text, not a text-back.

but my girlfriends and i will send each other stupid things like "missing you already" which are of course totally hilarious!
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:34, Reply)

I'm too old for playing games so I do what I feel is right.
Whether it scary or not is not worth bothering about.
( girlinthehole, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:35, Reply)

i just assume
that if a guy can't be arsed to text, he isn't worth getting arsed about. life's too short!
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:38, Reply)

I think it just doesn't occur to guys to do that like it does with women.
It's a gender thing.
( girlinthehole, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:39, Reply)

^This
Women are crazy, men are shit.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:40, Reply)

i agree that guys are much less likely to bother with being friendly like that
they won't text/call just for a chat the way that girls do.

but if they fancy you, they'll make the effort to text/call! if they don't, they'll just disappear off the radar because you're not even worth 12p to explain that they haven't died in a freak napalming incident on the way home.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:42, Reply)

It just doesn't occur to men to make you feel wanted like a women would do.
I've never been with a guy who did that. Maybe I've just been unlucky. *shrugs*
( girlinthehole, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:44, Reply)

I'm too polite NOT to text a woman
But if I really really fancy them, then I'll be going mental through fear that I texted too soon and appear too eager, or if she doesn't reply then getting paranoid about it.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:48, Reply)

Relax!
I think the only worry would be if you texed every 5 minutes every day.
( girlinthehole, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:51, Reply)

I doubt I'll be in the situation for a long while
But also hope that if I do, I won't end up being the inspiration for another cringe-inducing comedy film.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:52, Reply)

I tell you what does occur to men
the discovery that a woman's playing head games. You'd be surprised how subtle women aren't. That's guaranteed to not get any kind of contact.

God, if you like somebody let them know. There shouldn't be all these stupid, puerile games.
( Kroney, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:42, Reply)

funnily enough
girls do consider that having sex with you is kind of a clue that they like you a little bit (although maybe less than before they had sex with you, that depends how good you were).
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:44, Reply)

So after having sex
which, by the way, you may have noticed that men don't read deeply into, you consider that the best way of seeing them again is to not contact them.
( Kroney, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:45, Reply)

if i shag someone
who doesn't even have the courtesy to text or call me fairly shortly afterwards, it's a safe bet that i will think he is a twat (not a cunt, it's not interesting enough behaviour for that, it's just a bit twattish) and i will therefore NOT be texting or calling him.

i will be polite and friendly when i see him next, but underneath i will just be thinking "meh, you are a twat," and i will also be telling other females the same thing! whilst he may be relieved not to have to deal with me again, the latter also means that nobody else we have in common will ever shag him, and men should always remember that WOMEN. TALK.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:54, Reply)

Define 'fairly shortly afterwards'
Couple of hours? A day? Immediately after disposing of the condom?
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:55, Reply)

if you want a serious answer
it depends how well you know them. if it's casual or even a one-night stand, i'd say anything up to 3-4 days is fine.

purely personally, i wouldn't shag anyone unless i thought i knew them pretty well and there was a bit of mutual liking/friendship there. i then assume that this means even if they are not interested in taking it further romantically that there would be enough to bother preserving the friendship by not behaving like a twat and never calling/texting again. so if you already know them quite well, and there is a history of seeing each other (eg at work) or emailing/texting several times a day, i'd say you should be texting later on that evening just to say "i had a nice time, thank you."
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:59, Reply)

I actually agree with you here
Although would a girl actually appreciate the word 'nice' being used?
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:01, Reply)

well, you know what i mean!!!
if there is already a relationship there (not in a romantic sense at this stage), there should be enough respect NOT to do a disappearing act and never ask for a second date OR have the common courtesy explain why you don't want there to be one. after all, if the date/sex was pretty mediocre, she is 99% likely to say "phew, i was thinking the same thing, let's be mates!"
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:08, Reply)

You can't apply female thinking
to men. Because we don't think like you. A guy will sometimes call that evening and sometimes won't. It really epends on what else is going on. If you're not prepared to send the first text or whatever, you shouldn't expect them to either. Double standards.
( Kroney, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:04, Reply)

no, it's tried and tested rules
they only apply the first couple of times. any guy who doesn't call or text after you have sex for the first time should NOT have had sex with you if he didn't like you enough to bother calling you afterwards. or he should have said "this is just for tonight, yeah?" and been honest about it. he might not have got laid, but he wouldn't have been a total douche.

similarly, any guy who doesn't at least offer to pay on the first date is a cheapskate.

i didn't write the rules!
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:06, Reply)

Rules, my arse
You may not have written them, but you're blindly following them and it doesn't stop them being utterly ridiculous.
( Kroney, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:08, Reply)

i know what sort of behaviour i would think acceptable
it doesn't mean sending me hundreds of pounds of flowers a week, or taking me to 5 star restaurants every date. but it does mean showing me that you are keen enough to pursue me.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:09, Reply)

You aren't the only ones who like to be pursued
if you're sitting back and waiting for the guy to make every move, you'll rapidly find he isn't making any.
( Kroney, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:16, Reply)

that's not what i am saying, you are extrapolating it too far
i am saying that, after the first time you spend the night together, i would expect him to text or call within a reasonable period after arriving home or after he knows you have travelled home. because if he doesn't, he's not keen.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:20, Reply)

I find this expectation ok

( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:21, Reply)

good!
i am making sense then. phew.

now, labs, can you kindly spread it around the rest of your lousy sex? ta!!!
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:24, Reply)

I'll send out a memo

( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:26, Reply)

please do
to: ALL MEN
from: LABS
subject: STOP BEING TWATTISH

thank you.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:31, Reply)

But why is that twattish?
He might be worried that you find him to clingy. Or he might have other problems. He might be going through a rough patch, and you texting/calling him back will brighten his day and make him realise you're a good woman, who doesn't play games, and are worth trying with a second date.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:34, Reply)

maaaaaaybe
but i think that is giving the benefit of the doubt to a guy who was really just after sex!
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:50, Reply)

Or, you know, you could.
Because you're a grown-up. He could be sat there thinking "well she obviously doesn't give a shit", for all you know. Then, because you've signed up to a set of behaviours, called them rules rather than guidelines, that almost certainly less than 20% of the population believe to the extent you do, you miss out.

Or not. I just think it's daft to restrict yourself.
( Kroney, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:26, Reply)

I'm sorry
But I have to agree with you. I do think it's double standards, and on the first date (or all of them), the bill should be splitted.

As well, if he doesn't call/text in a day or two, and I'm interested on him, I'll text him myself, to see if he's ok and fancy meeting again. I'm the type of woman who's got a lot more male than female friends, and I've listen to too many complaining that they don't know what to do, and why women can't be straight forward.

I learnt my lesson when I was 14, and since them, if I want something, I go for it; if after a couple of weeks together he proves he's crap, then bye.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:31, Reply)

I should probably say
that I actually personally subscribe to a lot of rachelswipe's rules. But that's because I'm an old-fashioned kind of a man. Not many people these days are. I just think it's stupid to restrict yourself to a dying breed.

Particularly in London, where men are all metrosexual, self-centred wankers anyway.
( Kroney, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:35, Reply)

I think it's nice to receive a text after sex
and I'll consider that guy above others that don't; but I won't close all the doors to a nice guy just because he hasn't texted me in 4 days. Why should I? Why is the guy the one that has to start everything?
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:37, Reply)

*Equality high five*

( Kroney, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:38, Reply)

i just think
if he is the kind of guy who won't text me after sex, he is not the kind of guy i really want to waste any more of my precious time on - i'm busy!!
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:47, Reply)

i honestly think you are spouting shit!!!
i don't believe there is a man on the planet who could spend the night with a girl, have sex several times, kiss her goodbye etc etc, then go home and think "oh noes, she doesn't like me enough to text me". it's along the lines of "maybe he was too intimidated by the girl's looks/brains/money". there isn't a man on the planet who thinks "oh noes, she was way too good for me, i don't deserve her, better not call her then."

the truth is, if the guy wants a repeat performance, it won't even cross his mind that she might not feel the same way, because he'll be fending off a stiffy from re-living the highlights all the way home, and his blood will be diverted from his brain.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:34, Reply)

No it's probably
"well, she doesn't appear to be the kind of mentalist who texts relentlessly and immediately after sex, I can probably relax a bit."

Then you turn out to be exactly that kind of woman, because you're a woman, only you haven't even bothered to try and get in contact with him, either.

And you lose out again.
( Kroney, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:37, Reply)

you're simply wrong
he just couldn't be fucked to text/call once he'd had his dick sucked and got it warm and wet for a few hours.

this makes him a twat.

NEXT!
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:46, Reply)

Neither could you
but somehow that's ok because it's you, rather than him. Hypocrisy.
( Kroney, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:47, Reply)

he's the guy
i'm the girl.

them's the breaks.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:50, Reply)

Ah, so this is all born
out of simple sexism. How unpleasant.
( Kroney, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:51, Reply)

Really?
Is that your experience? I'm sorry you haven't met anyone nicer. I've had sex with good friends, one of them once told me we should stop doing it because he felt I was falling in love with him, and didn't want to hurt me. We're still really good friends and he's invited to the wedding and everything.

There are some crappy guys out there who only think with their cock, but not all of them; the majority are nice people, as scare as you of anything new.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:40, Reply)

i've heard some pretty painful stories
but i suppose if it's only happened to me once in many years of dating, they can't ALL be that bad.

i still hope that one gets cock-rot and dies a slow lingering impotent death though!!!
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:45, Reply)

it's just struck me that the last time I slept with someone for the first time was before I even owned a mobile phone.
I must confess that I'm glad to be an old git and not "in the field" as texting and social network sites seem to have made things even more complicated.
(Cave Duck, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:27, Reply)

I don't remember the last time I slept with someone for the first time.
That's not because it was long ago, it was because I was very drunk. Which is awful.
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:28, Reply)

You see,
you could use a set of rules :P
( Kroney, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:29, Reply)

My very good friend from home assumed he was taking me home as I was too drunk.
Don't ask me what happened instead.
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:37, Reply)

You're like some kind of sexual vampire
feeding on the vulnerable and weak.
( Kroney, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:39, Reply)

Hey, I was so drunk I could barely stand or talk, and I'm the predator?!

( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:40, Reply)

Oh, the way you wrote it
made me infer that you jumped him
( Kroney, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:40, Reply)

I've no idea who jumped who.

( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:42, Reply)

How soon?
Because, you know, they're not likely to even think about you for several hours afterwards. What with us being such cunts and all.
( Kroney, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:55, Reply)

Is this why women turn into mentals and won't leave me alone after I have sex with them?

( Maximinimus you stick around I'll make it worth your while, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:45, Reply)

HAHA!
Good one!
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:46, Reply)

I'd never have sex with a woman and then never call/text them again
Unless of course they've killed or maimed me during the act.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:45, Reply)

Of course you and women
don't see the "never call/text them again" in the same light. They're thinking hours, rather than days.
( Kroney, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:51, Reply)

well then
many more men should be like you!

it's only ever happened to me once, but if i did a whip-round of all my female friends, i'd say there's an ENORMOUS number of men who fuck you and then fuck you over by never ever calling again!
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:52, Reply)

No, keep me unique please!
I'm sure there are guys who've had girls do the same to them. Probably not an equal amount though, I'll give you that.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:54, Reply)

oh god yeah
i've got loads of female friends who've done it too. but i'd say it's about 1:15 girls:guys who behave like that!
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:56, Reply)

That high a ratio?
I've never had it happen to me, or done it to anyone, so cannot comment from personal experience.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:58, Reply)

One of my friends does that.
She's evil.
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:58, Reply)

I've had it done to me
plenty of times.
(Himjim died a little more inside on, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:35, Reply)

you shouldn't have let them see your bike
that would be the only explanation
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:43, Reply)

I think that sort of thing peters out when a women gets older.

( girlinthehole, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:45, Reply)

sex, you mean!?
[thinking of lack of male potency beyond about 35, not female]
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:52, Reply)

No, game playing.

( girlinthehole, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:53, Reply)

Who is Peter? And why are you only mentioning him now?
*Goes to the clinic for a test*
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:54, Reply)

Brain scan?

( girlinthehole, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:01, Reply)

Tsk.

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:11, Reply)

The same thing of course isn't true about men
we all totally love text-backs!
( Kroney, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:36, Reply)

As a friendly joke it's cool
If it's at all meant seriously, then it sets off alarm bells.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:34, Reply)

I hope you sent one back saying
"Get used to the feeling"
( Kroney, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:31, Reply)

"if you wanted me to come back you should have swallowed"

(PsychoChomp, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:38, Reply)

"I only return for anal"

( Kroney, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:40, Reply)

I miss my best mate in New Zealand but she's coming over at Easter, hopefully.
I miss tourettes and DG because they make me happy.
I miss my little sis who lives in Tenerife.
( girlinthehole, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:28, Reply)

At least there's an incentive to visit your little sister in Tenerife
I often miss mine, but I'm not sure it's quite enough to make a trip to Salford...
(LongJohnBaldry, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:32, Reply)

I shall see her in January at Aber's wedding.
She might be home for christmas too.
( girlinthehole, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:37, Reply)

Crow's sister is going to Aber's wedding?

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:48, Reply)

Silly boy!
My sister is with me.
( girlinthehole, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:52, Reply)

I miss the point.
Often.
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:35, Reply)

I know.

( girlinthehole, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:36, Reply)

I miss Albert Fish, he was such a joker.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:48, Reply)

hello divine monty
how was your weekend?
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 12:52, Reply)

Greetings, oh pinnacle of loveliness.
I had a fantastic weekend doing all sorts of different stuff. Saw my daughter TWICE, went to a poncey birthday dinner in Harrow but yesterday afternoon it all went wrong when I went on the fucking rampage and I really, really overdid it. I ended up asleep in someone I don’t know’s house after hitting the cognacs following an afternoon of beers. Today I am ‘shaking all over’ like Johnny Kidd and the Pirates, and only the fact that my Dick Dale for President t shirt has arrived is preventing me from breaking down in tears.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:01, Reply)

oh noes, poor monty
just because it is self-inflicted does not make it any less painful.

as always, i prescribe an icy cold evian, followed by 3 hours in bed, followed by a blowjob and more evian.

or, you know, a day at work...
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 13:11, Reply)