2001: A Space Odyssey*
Is a terrible, terrible film. It may be brilliant in terms of cinematography, but in terms of plot, characterisation, action or anything else that makes a film watchable, it's absolutely dire. People say "it makes sense if you read the book" - which just means it has failed utterly as a film.

*Also really hard to spell
( emvee cruor deo cruoris, Fri 20 May 2011, 15:58, 40 replies)

So is most of Kubrick's stuff
EG The Shining, A Clockwork Orange.
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Fri 20 May 2011, 16:05, closed)

Ahhh no....
Everything BUT the Shining. That works without ever having to read the book.
(dchurch bah, Fri 20 May 2011, 16:07, closed)

It's not that great.

( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Fri 20 May 2011, 16:09, closed)

The ending was all fudged up in the film, otherwise it was nicely done

( LemonEntryMyDearWatson This time, Moriarty, the hand is on the other foot, Fri 20 May 2011, 16:12, closed)

Not great
but not awful. Certainly entertaining, and better than 90% of the so-called 'horror' films I've seen over the past decade.
(dchurch bah, Fri 20 May 2011, 16:19, closed)

Pretty awful.
The kid was annoying, and the guy was all cliché omg psycho
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Fri 20 May 2011, 16:20, closed)

He was an archetype rather than a cliché.
It only became a cliché because for the subsequent thirty years almost everybody has based their psycho on Nicholson.
( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Fri 20 May 2011, 16:22, closed)

Same with The Godfather.
Cliched, unimaginative bullshit.
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Fri 20 May 2011, 16:25, closed)

The Godfather films are just a total rip-off of Guy Ritchie.

( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Fri 20 May 2011, 16:27, closed)

Guy Ritchie Hitchcock
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Fri 20 May 2011, 16:30, closed)

Dude. Hitchcock is totally a wannabe Richart Curtis.
And in any case, you're wrong, it owes far more to Powell and Pressburger and Rohmer than to Hitchcock. But even taking that into account, calling it clichéd or unimaginative is balls.
( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Fri 20 May 2011, 16:41, closed)

D'ya think?

( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Fri 20 May 2011, 16:54, closed)

Like yeah.
The strained romance in Marnie is a total rip-off of Four Weddings.
( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Fri 20 May 2011, 16:58, closed)

Marnie was no Rebecca.

( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Fri 20 May 2011, 17:07, closed)

Agreed.
Although the kid WAS annoying.
(dchurch bah, Fri 20 May 2011, 16:32, closed)

Also
almost every fucking comedy show I can think of has done a Shining spoof which has turned it into a complete parody of itself
( emvee cruor deo cruoris, Fri 20 May 2011, 16:34, closed)

I get it!
it's like that bit in Manhattan when Diane Keaton and Michael Murphy are having that long conversation about all those great artists they consider over-rated.
And that's how you realise that they're pricks.
(leviticus no longer likes the cut of your gib on, Fri 20 May 2011, 16:16, closed)

their

( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Fri 20 May 2011, 16:21, closed)

They are
They're.
(dchurch bah, Fri 20 May 2011, 16:40, closed)

ghey.

( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Fri 20 May 2011, 16:54, closed)

g'hey
Gay..er.
(dchurch bah, Fri 20 May 2011, 23:00, closed)

It doesn't make sense if you read the book.
The book makes sense if you read the book. The film only makes sense if you ignore what you're seeing on the screen and remember back to the loosely connected section of the book.
( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Fri 20 May 2011, 16:07, closed)

Actually it only makes sense if you read "The Lost Worlds of 2001"
...which contains all the ideas and scenes that Kubrick and Clarke toyed with / discarded / cut from the final print / left on the back seat of a London taxi.*


* quite literally, if memory serves
(moon monkey is busy making memories worth repressing, Fri 20 May 2011, 16:12, closed)

Yeah.
But anybody who reads a book called "The Lost Worlds of 2001" is clearly some sort of wanker.
( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Fri 20 May 2011, 16:13, closed)

Yes. Yes I am.
But WHICH sort, that's the question...
(moon monkey is busy making memories worth repressing, Fri 20 May 2011, 16:35, closed)

The sort that needs to use jeweller's tweezers.

( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Fri 20 May 2011, 16:39, closed)

Hm. Weak. I was expecting better.
Also a poorly thought-out insult: since we're discussing wanking, then all that matters is MY pleasure -- which makes the size of the cock irrelevant.

2/10
(moon monkey is busy making memories worth repressing, Fri 20 May 2011, 17:22, closed)

Dune only makes proper sense if you read the book first
but when you read the book you realise what liberties David Lynch took with the film. So you have to watch film, then read book, as if you do it the other way round you will hate the film.
( Rotating Wobbly Hat That's not a banana. THIS is a banana., Fri 20 May 2011, 16:10, closed)

Hated both
Overblown rubbish. Almost as pompously long-winded as that other waste of paper, The Lord of the Rings...
(moon monkey is busy making memories worth repressing, Fri 20 May 2011, 16:13, closed)

Yep.
LOTR and Dune. Both a pile of horse shit, fit only for pretentious uni arty types.
(dchurch bah, Fri 20 May 2011, 16:18, closed)

While I'm here,
The Shawshank Redemption sucks a big dog's cock as well
( emvee cruor deo cruoris, Fri 20 May 2011, 16:28, closed)

/\ booo get a hair cut /\

( fluffybunnykiller Is feasting on the clitoris of life, Fri 20 May 2011, 16:37, closed)

There was a real-life escape attempt from Alcatraz where he dug through the wall with a spoon.
A fucking spoon. And that cunt had to use a chisel. The shitache.
( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Fri 20 May 2011, 16:43, closed)

Rock hammer wasn’t it?

( Ring Of Fire A petty, drooling belming butthurt retard., Fri 20 May 2011, 16:45, closed)

Was it?
Possibly. I tell you what it wasn't. It wasn't a fucking spoon.
( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Fri 20 May 2011, 16:46, closed)

I agree.
RE: the comment about all his films. I found Barry Lydon [sp?] to be a pretty good, if drawn out, story. I think the cinamatographer, or whoever is responsible for the use of the low-light cameras, is the real star of the production though.
(Me, I'm not... in any way intoxicated, Fri 20 May 2011, 17:38, closed)

not going to read all that up there ^ but
excellent trolling emvee, well done
( writerblock ... embedding disabled by request on, Fri 20 May 2011, 18:32, closed)

I'll tell you what it is
It's fucking slow
( sandettie light vessel automatic New Twitter - @bollocksreally, Fri 20 May 2011, 19:30, closed)

I'm not a fan either
but what it did for sci-fi was pretty impressive - it was rare at the time for the genre to have such a huge budget for effects and the like.

But then that led to Star Wars and all that other shit.
( krang, Sat 21 May 2011, 0:34, closed)

i watched 2001 for the very first time just last week.
Only problem is I watched it on a 3.7 inch HTC desire with headphones over 3 sessions all of which were on trains going through a long sequence of noisy as Fuck tunnels.

I didn't enjoy it.

Having said that I could have probably watched it on a 100 inch loewe flat screen with 10000000000000000.1 surround sound whilst being collectively related by the Swedish pneumatic blond lesbian tendencies experimentation team in the no gag reflex category and still come away from the entire experience a little underwhelmed.

Length? Well enough to share with all 37 ladies in the aforementioned team AT THE SAME TIME!
(OTT, Sun 22 May 2011, 8:56, closed)