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# Opinion time
So I think I'm okay at drawing, not anything special, but okay. I'm most comfortable doing cartoon/characature style, but that's mainly because I can't draw properly. I'm trying to improve my drawing, so I wanted to get some opinions on this, and maybe some advice too.



I don't think it's a bad drawing, it just looks nothing like the person actually does.

Sauce:
keetsa.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/veggiedress.jpg

Your thought(s) please.
(MrGiggleBollocks less giggle, more bollocks, Thu 26 Mar 2009, 13:42, archived)
# My thoughts are
a) It's very good, if not totally like the original
b) Looking at the original, she would most certainly receive some
c) Woo!
(I helped save b3ta! Finite "Aardvark sorted out my shit!" on, Thu 26 Mar 2009, 13:43, archived)
# ^Entirely this^
But having pushed in front.
(I helped save b3ta! Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Thu 26 Mar 2009, 13:44, archived)
# Looks a littel like Denise Richards
I like.
(cenaris Is dividing 3 by waffle, Thu 26 Mar 2009, 13:43, archived)
# people tend not to have black lines around them
shade shade and shade some more.
no black lines - you're on to a winner.
(waxdart hello., Thu 26 Mar 2009, 13:44, archived)
# its good!
but the light on her eyes need to come from the same direction- try shading a bit more too:)
(great scrot! i aint afraid of no goatse, Thu 26 Mar 2009, 13:45, archived)
# Needs to? what if the light was in front fo the face?
how about - its better to put the light to one side so it doesn't mind fuck the person looking at some mental eyes.
(waxdart hello., Thu 26 Mar 2009, 13:48, archived)
# mental eye
(waxdart hello., Thu 26 Mar 2009, 13:49, archived)
# it doesnt matter where the light comes from
, the light will hit both eyes in the same way- right?? ;?
(great scrot! i aint afraid of no goatse, Thu 26 Mar 2009, 13:50, archived)
# get a mirror and a desk lamp
shine the fucking thing at yourself for ages and take a look.
get a camera setup- take 100 pics of yourself and only draw the shadows

do this till you heart bleeds and you never want to draw again.


* in answer to you question. No fuckign idea the light would have to be very close to your face to to get the highlight centered.
(waxdart hello., Thu 26 Mar 2009, 13:52, archived)
# I feel challenged.
i would do that, if i could be arsed, but two relective spheres in close proximity will always reflect the same light in the same places, non?
(great scrot! i aint afraid of no goatse, Thu 26 Mar 2009, 13:56, archived)
# no
like to balls either side of a bulb?
(waxdart hello., Thu 26 Mar 2009, 13:57, archived)
# ah true
true...i must draw more:)
(great scrot! i aint afraid of no goatse, Thu 26 Mar 2009, 13:59, archived)
# Ive done a lot of life drawing so the first things that spring to mind are:
Don't fall in to the trap of drawing things that aren't actually there. For example, lips and noses don't have a line defining them in real life, so try to suggest that line with a bit of shading instead. Your pics will look a lot better for it :)
(I helped save b3ta! Victor Meldrew, Thu 26 Mar 2009, 13:46, archived)
# What about Pete Burns' lips?
(I helped save b3ta! Redsushi! Whoop! Whoop! Yes, that one!, Thu 26 Mar 2009, 13:48, archived)
# They are off the scale
(waxdart hello., Thu 26 Mar 2009, 13:51, archived)
# those were his lips?!?!? I thought they were those comedy jelly-sweet lips you get in pick and mix
(I helped save b3ta! theoriginalsteve <this space intentionally left blank>, Thu 26 Mar 2009, 13:59, archived)
# Yeah its alright.. not a bad job there mate.
The eyes need some work.. make them softer and smaller..

Also with your shading, to give a nice rounded and warmer feel, smudge the shaded area with your thumb.
(TheRiddler Hmmmmm... I concur., Thu 26 Mar 2009, 13:46, archived)
# the
eyes are too big. you need to create the size of the eyes with the surrounding features and highlight effects rather than the overall outline of the eye

but good
(I helped save b3ta! Dont point it at your face up the ass, Thu 26 Mar 2009, 13:47, archived)
# DRAW SOMETHING FUNNY
or send it to fucking hart beat
(I helped save b3ta! wefbhweiufhweiu party, Thu 26 Mar 2009, 13:47, archived)
# But Tony Hart is dead!
YOU INSENSITIVE BASTARD
(I helped save b3ta! Finite "Aardvark sorted out my shit!" on, Thu 26 Mar 2009, 13:52, archived)
# I think it's Patrick Swayze in To Wong Fu, thanks for everything, Julie Newmar
Which is actually a great compliment
(I helped save b3ta! Joliet, Thu 26 Mar 2009, 13:48, archived)
# I like this.
The eyes are a tad large, and possibly soften the jawline a little?
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Thu 26 Mar 2009, 13:49, archived)
# or shorten the hair and you get david coulthard
(I helped save b3ta! connor, Thu 26 Mar 2009, 13:50, archived)
# Kapow!
Hahahaha!
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Thu 26 Mar 2009, 13:52, archived)
# start with the proportions, you appear to be drawing things where you think they should be not where they actually are
She has a bigger forehead than you have drawn and her head is rotated down more. Start by roughly sketching the the shape and positions of the feautures before detailing
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Thu 26 Mar 2009, 13:49, archived)
# I'm not brilliant at drawing either
I have just tried to develop my own style rather than accurately reproduce what I can see.

I think your drawing is really good, so practice is my only advice. The more practice you got the more your own style will evolve.

And the source pic....chili and curly kale is a good look!
(I helped save b3ta! Anthropos Was making beer on, Thu 26 Mar 2009, 13:49, archived)
# on the rhs where chin meets hair could be rounder
her hair doesn't actually stop dead before her parting, it's a bit fuzzy
i'm uncomfortable making these comments because my normal response to something this good would be "wooo! i wish i could draw like that"
(I helped save b3ta! spacefish bong!, Thu 26 Mar 2009, 13:50, archived)
# Looks pretty good to me
The only helpful advice I can suggest is the jaw line looks a little too angular so makes it seem more masculine.

But getting a picture to look like who it is supposed to is a problem I am familiar with as demonstrated below:

source
(I helped save b3ta! Bobby Bob Bob also available on http://jbobw.deviantart.com/, Thu 26 Mar 2009, 13:51, archived)
# Mmmmmmmm. Shirley........
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Thu 26 Mar 2009, 13:52, archived)
# I am serious
and don't call me Shirley.
(I helped save b3ta! gareth_alien will be human again at, Thu 26 Mar 2009, 14:02, archived)
# *b'dum tsch*
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Thu 26 Mar 2009, 14:04, archived)
# that is actually very good
some tips I've picked up over the years (not that I'm that good at it or anything)

1: draw what you see, not what you think you see: people tend to look at their subject for a few seconds then spend 20 mins rendering it on the paper. You should, infact spend more time looking at the subject than the paper, otherwise you are simply going on memory, rather than carefully interpreting the subject (there are arguments against this for various schools of art, but if you are going for accuracy....)

2) Practice, Practice Practice: the more you do, from life specifcally, the better. Even a few weeks spent in natural history museums, zoos, public places, just drawing from life and you'll see a difference.

3) Plan you picture first. Work out the basic distances, shapes, negative space etc. etc. If you get this wrong, then the picture will be wrong. Starting by drawing one eye perfectly, then doing an ear, then the mouth, the the jaw line, you WILL get it wrong unless you are amazing at drawing, or autistic.
(I helped save b3ta! theoriginalsteve <this space intentionally left blank>, Thu 26 Mar 2009, 13:51, archived)
# *Takes notes*
that seems like pretty good advice
(I helped save b3ta! Bobby Bob Bob also available on http://jbobw.deviantart.com/, Thu 26 Mar 2009, 13:54, archived)
# Why is there an octopus on her head?

It's not in the sauce
(I helped save b3ta! mediocre ha ha ha, you're reading this, Thu 26 Mar 2009, 13:56, archived)
# this is very good
your proportions need some work...

www.ratemydrawings.com/tutorials/portrait/1928-How_to_draw_Face_Proportions.html

not the best link but you'll get the gist :)
(theswollenbeef where there's a will there's a wank, Thu 26 Mar 2009, 13:58, archived)