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# Lucifer loved God and refused to worship his creation man, so was cast out of heaven
god and man, what a bunch of cunts
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Thu 5 Nov 2009, 10:23, archived)
# *puts her trust in God and Man!*
*god and man*
(I helped save b3ta! Joliet, Thu 5 Nov 2009, 10:24, archived)
# Didn't Lucifer try to overthrow God or something?
Or did I just make that up?
(I helped save b3ta! Mu Dinofiddler, Thu 5 Nov 2009, 10:25, archived)
# you just made that up
although it's no doubt written in the newer bibles, the ones with Miley Cyrus on the cover
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Thu 5 Nov 2009, 10:26, archived)
# So he didn't lead a group of angels against God?
Fair enough.
(I helped save b3ta! Mu Dinofiddler, Thu 5 Nov 2009, 10:28, archived)
# I think that was in Dogma
(I helped save b3ta! 2 Can Chunder Word to your mums, I came to prod bums, Thu 5 Nov 2009, 10:30, archived)
# Could be. I'm sure it was mentioned in Reaper too.
(I helped save b3ta! Mu Dinofiddler, Thu 5 Nov 2009, 10:34, archived)
# Haha, excellent
"Religion for Dummies", I believe was the title?
(I helped save b3ta! Q4nobody, Thu 5 Nov 2009, 10:43, archived)
# Aye,
he attempted a coup. It were fucking mental! LOL! All demons were once angels ^_^
(I helped save b3ta! Redsushi! Whoop! Whoop! Yes, that one!, Thu 5 Nov 2009, 10:27, archived)
# This is true of people too :D
(I helped save b3ta! Michael Ellis contributes nothing, Thu 5 Nov 2009, 10:28, archived)
# All people were once angels?
Nah, that's not true.
(I helped save b3ta! Redsushi! Whoop! Whoop! Yes, that one!, Thu 5 Nov 2009, 10:40, archived)
# You agree with me, but Happy Toast says I'm wrong...
I'm so confused :(
(I helped save b3ta! Mu Dinofiddler, Thu 5 Nov 2009, 10:32, archived)
# it depends which bed time story book, I mean bible you read
early ones simply say Lucifer refused to love man more than he loved god so was banished, later ones made him in to more of a god hater and then big horned monster to keep the idiots scared and money flowing
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Thu 5 Nov 2009, 10:35, archived)
# I think a lot of the lucifer story
that we know is taken from Paradise Lost, to be honest. Fuck knows where Milton found it. I think there's some material in the Apocrypha that lend support to it to, but in the Bible we know and love in Protestant and Catholic nations, Satan first appears in Job as God's poker-partner, gambling on whether they can fuck up the most holy man on Earth enough that he'll curse God's name.

God, eh? What a fucking pikey cunt.
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Thu 5 Nov 2009, 10:44, archived)
# Our survey says no.
Genesis 3 you fool! The Garden of Eden? The Serpent?
(I helped save b3ta! Redsushi! Whoop! Whoop! Yes, that one!, Thu 5 Nov 2009, 10:51, archived)
# Identification of the Serpent with Satan
is also a result of dogma. (That's dogma, not Dogma, the acclaimed Kevin Smith movie.) Point me anywhere in Genesis that says

"And the serpent, who was called Lucifer and was a heavenly body cast down from Heaven for refusing to worship Adam and inexplicably present in Eden -- and probably also in the right, since the mighty YAHWEH would later demand that no-one worship anyone but Himself which suggests he was a bit soft in the head, said to Eve, 'Go on, eat the fucking apple, bitch! By the way, I'm the king of Hell.' "
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Thu 5 Nov 2009, 10:55, archived)
# HERE, HERE!
The truth is in the Toast!
(I helped save b3ta! Q4nobody, Thu 5 Nov 2009, 10:57, archived)
# Well that's the story.
Although, I don't remember reading that in the bible ever. I guess Kevin Smith just made it up for Reaper ;)
(I helped save b3ta! Redsushi! Whoop! Whoop! Yes, that one!, Thu 5 Nov 2009, 10:39, archived)
# It's not Biblical
or at least I don't think it's in the Bible we use (whether Protestant or Anglican or Catholic). I don't remember the apocrypha well enough to say whether it's in any of the Orthodox Bibles or whatnot, but to be honest I doubt it. I think it's all a later development.

There's many things that aren't Biblical. You can even argue that the Trinity isn't Biblical -- there's a lot of Christians, generally orthodox, who don't believe that weird piece of doublethink and will happily argue, from a position of much more strength than me, that it's extra-Biblical and not even in the batshit-insane letters of Paul.
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Thu 5 Nov 2009, 10:50, archived)
# Lucifer, and others tried to question and overthrow God, So God kicked them outa his crib..yo
(I helped save b3ta! prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave, Thu 5 Nov 2009, 10:30, archived)
# God and Lucifer helped create earth

Lucifer was dicking about with animal parts sticking them randomly together, thus the platipus.

God wasn't happy and kicked him out
(I helped save b3ta! prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave, Thu 5 Nov 2009, 10:27, archived)
# I hope that's a joke, the Platypus hasn't made its way in to the bible surely?
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Thu 5 Nov 2009, 10:33, archived)
# 'they' ripped out the platipus volumes of the bible :(
(is everything I say going to be taken serious now?...for fuck sake)
(I helped save b3ta! prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave, Thu 5 Nov 2009, 10:38, archived)
# *worships the almighty Prodge*
(I helped save b3ta! Redsushi! Whoop! Whoop! Yes, that one!, Thu 5 Nov 2009, 10:44, archived)
# *stones to death*
(I helped save b3ta! Michael Ellis contributes nothing, Thu 5 Nov 2009, 10:45, archived)
# fucking trolls
V
(I helped save b3ta! prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave, Thu 5 Nov 2009, 10:51, archived)