Hey you guys - Data got an Oscar
80s Child movie star gets an Oscar in 2023 with first movie in a while.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-64935656
Ke Huy Quan: From forgotten child star of Indiana Jones and The Goonies to Oscars hero
(, Mon 13 Mar 2023, 14:32, Reply)
I missed the chance to watch Goonies and Temple of Doom when I was a kid.
Turns out they're kind of crap if you didn't see them when you were the right age for them.
Quan is awesome in EEAaO though.
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Invisible Wizard - 11th Level MERPer, Mon 13 Mar 2023, 14:40,
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Temple of Doom was on telly round a friends house over the weekend, yeah it's not aged well!
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quackpipe swings like a pendulum do, Mon 13 Mar 2023, 15:39,
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Perhaps.
But for their intended audience they were fucking outstanding. I still maintain that The Goonies is a better adventure than both Labyrinth and The NeverEnding Story purely because everything that occurs is technically plausible. There's no other-worldly element to the story, and that made the whole thing entirely more immersive.
And the pearl clutching at The Temple of Doom's portrayal of ethnic groups/women/etc is all a load of outrage chasing bollocks. It's an '80s franchise of pulp-inspired movies set in the '30s. The fuck are these flappy cunts expecting? You certainly couldn't get away with a lot of those characterisations in a modern movie but that's hardly a damning indictment considering how easily people's sensibilities are apparently offended these days. Light years ahead in quality to the contemporary 'Young Adult' adventure franchises.
(, Mon 13 Mar 2023, 15:52, Reply)
'everything that occurs is technically plausible'
I would seriously doubt that any unmaintained wooden ship standing in water for 350 years would still be in any condition to sail let alone still be intact.
(, Mon 13 Mar 2023, 16:51, Reply)
Plenty of sloth candidates on /links
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Fadgebadger Sweaty sumo wanks for everyone!, Mon 13 Mar 2023, 17:34,
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I rewatched ToD fairly recently and thought it was a pretty weak bit of story telling, especially compared to some of the other entries in the franchise. I don't think the criticism of the characterisations in the film is "outrage chasing", either. It just looks like lazy, crass stereotyping.
(, Mon 13 Mar 2023, 17:06, Reply)
Yeah, it was just kind of shite.
Nothing about the supposed racist / sexist stuff.
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Invisible Wizard - 11th Level MERPer, Mon 13 Mar 2023, 19:07,
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They forgot that Indy films are supposed to be fun.
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evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Mon 13 Mar 2023, 19:17,
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It feels like they think it's fun though
It's got fun bits in it. The rope bridge stunt is good. The mine cart chase has good bits, but then gets just too bullshitty. Not to mention the life raft plane thing.
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Invisible Wizard - 11th Level MERPer, Tue 14 Mar 2023, 12:26,
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And the death by volcano. And the heart ripping. Kids love a good heart ripping.
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evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Tue 14 Mar 2023, 13:07,
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Those were my two favourite scenes as a child. Along with the magic glowing stones getting too hot to touch.
KALI MA! KAAAAAALI MAAAAA! KALI MA SHAKTI DE!
Absolutely loved that shit as a bairn.
Edit: Fuckit, time for a re-watch. It surely can't be any more disappointing than Cocaine Bear is undoubtedly going to be...
(, Tue 14 Mar 2023, 15:48, Reply)
You seem to be missing Indy 4 for some reason.
Also I've heard good things about Cocaine Bear.
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evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Tue 14 Mar 2023, 16:05,
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I am most certainly *not* missing Indy 4.
The trailer for Cocaine Bear looked promising, but I've also heard that it's basically just the same joke done over and over again with all the best bits picked out for the promo. Which wouldn't surprise me. Willing to give it a go, though!
(, Tue 14 Mar 2023, 16:16, Reply)
Cocaine Bear?
Pfft, get with the programme, grandad, it's all about Cocaine Shark now...
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Happosai _,,,,_(O ; o)_,,,, Tue 14 Mar 2023, 18:53,
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Haha, entry number ten, they'll have a human ingesting the drug!
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Turtle Power & Knuckles, Tue 14 Mar 2023, 21:13,
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Will that be before or after Cocainado?
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evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Tue 14 Mar 2023, 21:46,
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bits of Temple of Doom are still good, like the nightclub / beginning, but not most of the rest
I wouldn't expect new viewers to like Goonies much either, but at least it's an original story (I love it)
(there's the outrage stuff with ToD, but there's also Kate Capshaw being annoying and adventure movies usually being better when children aren't major plot elements)
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custard, Mon 13 Mar 2023, 15:54,
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Any adult that says that their favourite film is Ghostbusters or The Goonies is a fucking awful prick.
There, I said it.
(, Mon 13 Mar 2023, 16:02, Reply)
When Peter Venkman won't take no for an answer, and brings tranquilizers to a date, remember? Classic kids stuff
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Turtle Power & Knuckles, Mon 13 Mar 2023, 19:30,
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Yeah, I never saw Ghostbusters as a kids movie
It's standard SNL humour.
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Invisible Wizard - 11th Level MERPer, Mon 13 Mar 2023, 20:53,
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I was a kid (10 / 11 yrs) when goonies and ToD came out
And I thought they were SHIT at the time. Fucking SHIT
(, Mon 13 Mar 2023, 16:57, Reply)
"I asked for salted popcorn, mum. SALTED! WTF is this sweet shit? We're leaving"
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Mon 13 Mar 2023, 20:51,
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The poor lamb has been a victim of racism all his life.
He was cast by illuminati Spielberg in Temple of Doom because he talked and looked funny, with his slanty eyes and silly accent. Spielberg wasn’t done yet. He cast him again in the Goonies so audiences could laugh at his weird accent again and sneer at his racially stereotypical obsession with technological gadgetry. Then the phone stopped ringing, people were bored of the joke. All of his contemporary child star co stars went on to long, lucrative and successful film careers. But racism held him back, his life has been pure hell. Finally this very serious actor is getting the recognition he has long deserved from racist Americans. He should get compensation for all his suffering.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Mon 13 Mar 2023, 14:47,
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Well, it is yet another fucking superhero with magical powers film.
I guess as secularist dominance prevails, we can’t be surprised by the human need for hocus pocus somewhere else in their lives.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Mon 13 Mar 2023, 16:41,
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You’re not going to start all that 3 am heavy breathing malarkey again, are you?
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Mon 13 Mar 2023, 16:53,
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good luck to the bloke
though I thought it was a good film, not a great film. Decent premise executed well with some humour, but it must be a thin year if that's sweeping the board. Can't help but think after being stung by the backlash against their lack of diversity in recent years, there's an element of overcompensating and perhaps an eye to restoring their reputation in their voting choices. Still, it's only an awards show.
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Mon 13 Mar 2023, 21:06,
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Wasn't the Academy awards originally conceived as a kind of self-contained movie industry recognition thing?
Like, cinematographers would all vote for what film had the best cinematography sound guys for which film had the best sound production, etc?
It seems that somewhere along the way, the public decided that if a film won lots of Oscars, then it must be some indication that it's a very good film, which has been proven numerous times is definitely not always the case.
Fuck knows what the criteria really is these days. It feels massively insincere, though. A bit like the Red Dot Design Awards. Or Eurovision.
(, Mon 13 Mar 2023, 22:06, Reply)
there a fuck ton of members, i think almost 2000, and it's by nomination of two existing members so it was a bit of club
in the last five years they've imposed quotas for women and 'people of color', but given that they only let in 2 or three dozen each year I don't think the overall makeup of the Academy being old white male industry types has changed. They kicked out Cosby, but they also kicked out Wienstein so balance was maintained.
But I think being a mostly liberal group the #oscarssowhite might have stung a bit, because it was valid. so when face with choosing say, between Blanchetts tour de force in Tar and Yeoh good performance, I reckon there might have something in the back of their mind thinking "we'll get a lot of good headlines if we opt for yeoh, and maybe people will stop calling us a bunch of racist cunts". not in a conspiracy way, just human nature and people not wanting to be seen as the bad guy in a low stakes choice
And that's how it panned out. The headline in my paper today was "First South-East Asian Actor to win best Actor". Not "yeoh wins award". Maybe I'm cynical. Any artistic award is going to be debatable and subjective, and theres been worse choices.
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Mon 13 Mar 2023, 23:17,
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I'm chuffed for Michelle Yeoh, as she comes across as genuinely warm and lovely. But I've never been a massive fan of her acting.
She's always felt a bit wooden and monotone to me, which is probably a bit of an unfair criticism considering that English isn't her native tongue and she's not nearly as hard work as Hiam Abbass in that regard.
I've been meaning to watch EEAAO for bloody ages, but allocating 140 minutes to sit down and watch a film is proving difficult currently. So I'll reserve judgement until then, but I'd be very surprised if her performance is superior to Andrea Riseborough's.
(, Tue 14 Mar 2023, 12:36, Reply)
It's actually really good and she's splendid as 'Asian mom'
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simbosan is too tired, Thu 16 Mar 2023, 3:33,
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I don't know if it's a conscious thing
or a group of people reacting positively to something that resonates with them.
When all's said and done Hollywood is a deeply, deeply sentimental place and loves nothing more than a story of success to failure to success again and Quan's journey from child actor to years in the wilderness to success... well... let's say it's very VERY Hollywood.
And from a PR perspective I think they got it bang-on. In his speech screaming "this is the American dream" well, that's what they want and to be honest it't the best fantasy going. Why not indulge a few moments of delusion and enjoy the ham!
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garold you're on mute I SAID YOU'RE ON MUTE, Tue 14 Mar 2023, 14:12,
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i agree and I'm not upset or invested in the awards, just me speculating
Brendan Fraser has a compelling backstory too, as he happened to reveal while his film was in contention he was abused as a child actor. That's a nice story arc, suffering to redemption. Ovation. fade to end credits
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Tue 14 Mar 2023, 22:07,
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We appear to have had a polite conversation
how did this happen? I thought it was all waaah!! waaah!! waaah! in here these days?
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garold you're on mute I SAID YOU'RE ON MUTE, Wed 15 Mar 2023, 9:15,
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There is quite a lot of that above.
Suffice to say I wouldn't look to these grumpy bastards for film recommendations.
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