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This is a link post I hate Macs - Charlie Brooker
"Ultimately the campaign's biggest flaw is that it perpetuates the notion that consumers somehow "define themselves" with the technology they choose. If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. Of course, that hasn't stopped me slagging off Mac owners, with a series of sweeping generalisations, for the past 900 words, but that is what the ads do to PCs. Besides, that's what we PC owners are like - unreliable, idiosyncratic and gleefully unfair. And if you'll excuse me now, I feel an unexpected crash coming."
(, Fri 11 Feb 2011, 11:01, , Reply)
This is a normal post What about people like me,
Who use a Mac because it supports Logic Pro 9, which is my favourite music production software?
(, Fri 11 Feb 2011, 11:06, , Reply)
This is a normal post I'm was Logic user for 8 years, and nearly spent 1300 quid on a macbook so I could carry on using it
But, I didn't. Instead I spent 400 quid on a PC and spent a few hours learning the miniscule differences between Logic and Cubase.
(, Fri 11 Feb 2011, 11:15, , Reply)
This is a normal post ^this^
Plus, there's lots of silly little music programs & vsts that just aren't available for macs.
(, Fri 11 Feb 2011, 11:25, , Reply)
This is a normal post vice versa
Supercollider, plus huge swathes of Max/MSP (and Jitter) objects/externals and abstractions, being most notable.
(, Fri 11 Feb 2011, 11:29, , Reply)
This is a normal post Uurgh, Cubase!
Last time I used it (for a uni assignment) it crashed while I was saving (at 4am - 11 hours before the hand in deadline). Then wouldn't load the song, saying it was corrupt... turned out during the crash it had somehow flipped all the ASIO inputs and outputs, so instead of having just 2 inputs and 12 outs, it was looking for 12 ins and 2 outs.

mmmm, ASIO, full of work-roundery goodness. Which is all ASIO is - a software work-around that allows audio apps to communicate with the CPU - whereas Macs have Core Audio, specifically designed for it.
(, Fri 11 Feb 2011, 11:44, , Reply)
This is a normal post That's true, Cubase is a *bit* crash-y.
I wonder if the new versions are any better?
(still uses cubase sx)
(, Fri 11 Feb 2011, 11:51, , Reply)
This is a normal post I've never had a problem with it
I have a beautiful MOTU soundcard, and the ASIO drivers present no issues. Every day I write electronic music, and record live guitar/vocals/melodica.

I'm not denying that a spanking Mac Pro with the latest version of Logic would be even less likely to break, but it's hard to justify the gargantuan extra cost.

edit: I use Cubase 5.
(, Fri 11 Feb 2011, 11:52, , Reply)
This is a normal post I have produced on Cubase before, and I do know what you mean, they are fairly similar
However, I still didn't really get on with it. Logic's user interface is a bit more intuitive, everything in Cubase seems to be buried in reams on menus. Also, I rely quite a lot on Logic's built in synths and plugs such as the ES2 synth (which I couldn't live without)! Cubase does sound good though, it's got a far nicer audio engine than something like Ableton (in my opinion).
(, Fri 11 Feb 2011, 12:34, , Reply)
This is a normal post Trolling, are we?
10 PRINT "MACS ARE OVERPRICED SHITE"
20 GOTO 10

That'll get the ball rolling...
(, Fri 11 Feb 2011, 11:06, , Reply)
This is a normal post Trolling?
I just thought it was a funny article..

eat my balls.
(, Fri 11 Feb 2011, 11:12, , Reply)
This is a normal post i'll eat them , if they are part of the 75% of you that is jam
i'll spread them on some toast...
(, Fri 11 Feb 2011, 11:14, , Reply)
This is a normal post time & date & place

(, Fri 11 Feb 2011, 12:06, , Reply)
This is a normal post no, you eat my balls, Hitler!
I win by going reductio ad hiteram.

Posting Mac or Windows bashing articles (even if they are written by Our Lord Brooker, maker of true judgements) often leads to flames that last for pages, that's all.
(, Fri 11 Feb 2011, 11:15, , Reply)
This is a normal post why is it so absurd to
ask you to eat my balls?

i have them right here for you....

also, try not to get your knickers in a twist :)
(, Fri 11 Feb 2011, 11:21, , Reply)
This is a normal post I was about to say "not here on b3ta"...
but then I remembered some real humdingers on here which were only defused when I threatened to get my cock out!
(, Fri 11 Feb 2011, 11:25, , Reply)
This is a normal post go on then,
get it out! i have a magnifier handy so i can actually see it...
(, Fri 11 Feb 2011, 11:27, , Reply)
This is a normal post the perfect way to end
an argument...
(, Fri 11 Feb 2011, 11:29, , Reply)
This is a normal post
10 Input "Do you use PC or MAC?";a$
20 if a$="MAC" then print "You are a cnut. Macs are based on 40 year old UNIX."
30 if a$="PC" then print "You are a cnut. PCs are based on 30 year old MS-DOS."
40 if a$="linux" then print "Sex is something that just happens to other people, isn't it?"
(, Fri 11 Feb 2011, 11:22, , Reply)
This is a normal post You spelt "cunt" wrong.
Twice.
(, Fri 11 Feb 2011, 11:28, , Reply)
This is a normal post may i ask
how one makes one's writing all little like that?
(, Fri 11 Feb 2011, 12:19, , Reply)
This is a normal post <small>something inane </small>=
something inane
(, Fri 11 Feb 2011, 13:32, , Reply)
This is a normal post <small><sub>something even more inane</sub></small>=
something even more inane
(, Fri 11 Feb 2011, 13:42, , Reply)
This is a normal post Consider yourself <i><b>ignored</i></b> moron.=
Consider yourself ignored moron.
(, Fri 11 Feb 2011, 13:54, , Reply)
This is a normal post thank you!
lots and lots
(, Fri 11 Feb 2011, 14:41, , Reply)
This is a normal post I was being polite.

(, Fri 11 Feb 2011, 12:22, , Reply)
This is a normal post if a$="Amiga" then Print "You are just too fucking awesome!"
.
(, Fri 11 Feb 2011, 13:45, , Reply)
This is a normal post Finally
A use for me "Awesome" badge!
(, Fri 11 Feb 2011, 14:20, , Reply)
This is a normal post hahah excellent. i have a pc, it never crashes
also the comments are well funny.
(, Fri 11 Feb 2011, 11:13, , Reply)
This is a normal post As anyone who follows Brookers' writing will know...
.. he has since purchased a Mac.
(, Fri 11 Feb 2011, 11:16, , Reply)
This is a normal post hahaha
seriously?
that is hilarious :)

link?
(, Fri 11 Feb 2011, 11:19, , Reply)
This is a normal post
www.macworld.co.uk/digitallifestyle/news/index.cfm?newsid=28525
(, Fri 11 Feb 2011, 11:28, , Reply)
This is a normal post yeah much like he went from criticising shit telly
to being balls deep in it
(, Fri 11 Feb 2011, 11:43, , Reply)
This is a normal post ^This^

(, Fri 11 Feb 2011, 13:54, , Reply)
This is a normal post 4 year old article.
If I could afford it, I'd bet a substantial amount of money that in those four years he has bought himself one.
(, Fri 11 Feb 2011, 11:17, , Reply)
This is a normal post This is stupid
By saying what is better "Windows" or "Mac" is rather pointless,
You may aswell say, what is better "Apples" or "Oranges"
It's just whatever works for you and what you want to do,
and what Operating System you prefer to use,
/rant_over
(, Fri 11 Feb 2011, 11:29, , Reply)
This is a normal post ha ha ha
You've changed your tune then... www.b3ta.com/links/401124
(, Fri 11 Feb 2011, 11:54, , Reply)
This is a normal post that is gold

(, Fri 11 Feb 2011, 11:56, , Reply)
This is a normal post Exactly :D
The full conversation was cock-all to do with operating systems, so you can imagine my suprise when this appears!
(, Fri 11 Feb 2011, 12:07, , Reply)
This is a normal post I don't know what's more sad
You saving or finding a flippant or jovial comment I made 2 years ago
(, Fri 11 Feb 2011, 15:15, , Reply)
This is a normal post Apples are better

(, Fri 11 Feb 2011, 11:55, , Reply)
This is a normal post You always have to contradict me woman, even if we post at the same time.
..honestly, I can't take you *anywhere*.
And wipe some of that lipstick off. You're not in your mother's bordello now.
(, Fri 11 Feb 2011, 11:58, , Reply)
This is a normal post Not Apples,
by the measure of the arguments here.
(, Fri 11 Feb 2011, 11:55, , Reply)
This is a normal post same as all apple products
whack a stainless steel back on it and hide all the buttons and menus and you can charge three times the price
(, Fri 11 Feb 2011, 11:31, , Reply)
This is a normal post I agree
But this is just the veneer and design of the item,
the root is all about the 'Operating System' (and how stable that is)
and what you want to do with it and what you want to use it for.
Unfortunately, Mac have gone down this 'Lifestyle' road, where people feel that they want one,
rather than they need one.
Personally, I like the OS
(, Fri 11 Feb 2011, 11:45, , Reply)
This is a normal post Although I fear this may get me some strange looks
I use both!

My freelancing work is done on a PC laptop, it meant I could get something that was 4 times the spec of the highest price macbook at the time, but I often do some work for a company that only uses macs.

I mainly use potatoshop and its equally as stable and quick on either machine. Both machines are stable, the last time I had a crash on either was when I asked CS4 to do an automated pano test on 26 52mb files at once.................

The only difference I have a problem with is the buttons being in a different place on this mac.
(, Fri 11 Feb 2011, 12:43, , Reply)
This is a normal post what the hell is with
his picture atop that article? It looks like someone told him not to react while a rent-boy tickles his balls.
(, Fri 11 Feb 2011, 14:55, , Reply)
This is a normal post Bootcamp keeps me happy

(, Fri 11 Feb 2011, 14:58, , Reply)