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You sock it to them, you bearded sandal wearing wags,
with your homophobic Christian leader and your mighty mighty haul of NINE, yes 9, MPs.
Also, don't you morons want PR? Under that system, UKIP, who got almost four million votes in the 2015 general election would have a lot more MPs than you with your less than two and a half million votes.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-32601281
( , Thu 6 Apr 2017, 12:39, Share, Reply)
with your homophobic Christian leader and your mighty mighty haul of NINE, yes 9, MPs.
Also, don't you morons want PR? Under that system, UKIP, who got almost four million votes in the 2015 general election would have a lot more MPs than you with your less than two and a half million votes.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-32601281
( , Thu 6 Apr 2017, 12:39, Share, Reply)
anyone thinking of voting Lib Dem
should remember the 2010 election when Cleggy ran on a left of Labour ticket, then they jumped into bed with the Tories and did the opposite of what they campaigned for.
( , Thu 6 Apr 2017, 12:59, Share, Reply)
should remember the 2010 election when Cleggy ran on a left of Labour ticket, then they jumped into bed with the Tories and did the opposite of what they campaigned for.
( , Thu 6 Apr 2017, 12:59, Share, Reply)
Anyone who supports PR
Should remember what electoral system gifted the BNP two MEPs.
( , Thu 6 Apr 2017, 13:06, Share, Reply)
Should remember what electoral system gifted the BNP two MEPs.
( , Thu 6 Apr 2017, 13:06, Share, Reply)
I think that says a lot more about apathy to the EU elections than it does the system
Many countries make a pretty good fist of PR, typically where their political landscape isn't as adversarial as ours.
( , Thu 6 Apr 2017, 13:27, Share, Reply)
Many countries make a pretty good fist of PR, typically where their political landscape isn't as adversarial as ours.
( , Thu 6 Apr 2017, 13:27, Share, Reply)
If by "good fist" you mean ineffectual and bickering coalitions,
I couldn't agree more. PR is such a success in Belgium that they went without an elected government for nearly two years. Truly, democracy in action!
( , Thu 6 Apr 2017, 13:48, Share, Reply)
I couldn't agree more. PR is such a success in Belgium that they went without an elected government for nearly two years. Truly, democracy in action!
( , Thu 6 Apr 2017, 13:48, Share, Reply)
the Dutch seem to do ok
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_general_election,_2017
luckily they don't have to tolerate Geert Wilders as the official opposition
( , Thu 6 Apr 2017, 14:00, Share, Reply)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_general_election,_2017
luckily they don't have to tolerate Geert Wilders as the official opposition
( , Thu 6 Apr 2017, 14:00, Share, Reply)
Yes Benny junior. Geert Wilders & Co only got twenty seats in the Dutch Parliament.
A mere 13% of all seats available. Truly a victory for the liberals and their wacky voting system. Islamophobia has been soundly defeated in the Netherlands. Well, that's how it was portrayed by the BBC and Guardian over here. Fake news. 13%, Benny jr. They'd have got nothing like that under FPTP. It may not be perfect, but it acts as a disinfectant that kills off the lunatic fringe, which liberals and moderates need to remember when they start whining about Populism. PR is Populism in electoral form.
( , Thu 6 Apr 2017, 14:16, Share, Reply)
A mere 13% of all seats available. Truly a victory for the liberals and their wacky voting system. Islamophobia has been soundly defeated in the Netherlands. Well, that's how it was portrayed by the BBC and Guardian over here. Fake news. 13%, Benny jr. They'd have got nothing like that under FPTP. It may not be perfect, but it acts as a disinfectant that kills off the lunatic fringe, which liberals and moderates need to remember when they start whining about Populism. PR is Populism in electoral form.
( , Thu 6 Apr 2017, 14:16, Share, Reply)
calm down sweetie
I'm not advocating PR in the UK. PR clearly works for some.
( , Thu 6 Apr 2017, 14:21, Share, Reply)
I'm not advocating PR in the UK. PR clearly works for some.
( , Thu 6 Apr 2017, 14:21, Share, Reply)
Clearly not in Belgium if you want a democratically elected government,
or Holland, unless you're happy about over ten percent of your MPs being openly islamophobic and racist.
Benny jr.
( , Thu 6 Apr 2017, 14:28, Share, Reply)
or Holland, unless you're happy about over ten percent of your MPs being openly islamophobic and racist.
Benny jr.
( , Thu 6 Apr 2017, 14:28, Share, Reply)
Be fair.
PR has been fucking excellent for Italy. At least for lols and chuckles.
( , Thu 6 Apr 2017, 16:33, Share, Reply)
PR has been fucking excellent for Italy. At least for lols and chuckles.
( , Thu 6 Apr 2017, 16:33, Share, Reply)
Speaking of 404, What happened to that thread below?
Mod or self destruction?
( , Thu 6 Apr 2017, 13:32, Share, Reply)
Mod or self destruction?
( , Thu 6 Apr 2017, 13:32, Share, Reply)
I had a flounce and make no apology for it.
Cumtwat, very much like his hero Ken, was taking a half truth, twisting it into a lie, and liberally sprinkling it with more lies. My favourite was that Hitler made a deal with Israel, a state that didn't exist until after his death. You lapping it all up and describing the bullshit and lies as "technically true" didn't help either.
( , Thu 6 Apr 2017, 13:43, Share, Reply)
Cumtwat, very much like his hero Ken, was taking a half truth, twisting it into a lie, and liberally sprinkling it with more lies. My favourite was that Hitler made a deal with Israel, a state that didn't exist until after his death. You lapping it all up and describing the bullshit and lies as "technically true" didn't help either.
( , Thu 6 Apr 2017, 13:43, Share, Reply)
*Bows, wipes away tear*
I'd like to thank all the wonderful denizens of b3ta for their indefatigable love and support. It means so much to me, and I know just how much I mean to all of you.
( , Thu 6 Apr 2017, 14:19, Share, Reply)
I'd like to thank all the wonderful denizens of b3ta for their indefatigable love and support. It means so much to me, and I know just how much I mean to all of you.
( , Thu 6 Apr 2017, 14:19, Share, Reply)
Well I missed some of the later stages then.
I was just trying to get to the actual facts of where all this stuff came from.
Lady on the radio this morning from the Labour party zionist group didn't have a problem with the facts of what he said just that he said them.
But if were going to call some areas off limits can a mod have a word with Stu next time he chooses to attack people with autism? Because personally I found that fucking offensive.
( , Thu 6 Apr 2017, 14:07, Share, Reply)
I was just trying to get to the actual facts of where all this stuff came from.
Lady on the radio this morning from the Labour party zionist group didn't have a problem with the facts of what he said just that he said them.
But if were going to call some areas off limits can a mod have a word with Stu next time he chooses to attack people with autism? Because personally I found that fucking offensive.
( , Thu 6 Apr 2017, 14:07, Share, Reply)
I found the whole thing pretty funny though.
Not precisely sure who I was laughing with, and who at, but I was a having good time.
( , Thu 6 Apr 2017, 16:16, Share, Reply)
Not precisely sure who I was laughing with, and who at, but I was a having good time.
( , Thu 6 Apr 2017, 16:16, Share, Reply)
You deleted a thread because you didn't like the way the conversation was going
( , Thu 6 Apr 2017, 14:14, Share, Reply)
( , Thu 6 Apr 2017, 14:14, Share, Reply)
Pathetic, isn't it?
It was becoming quite apparent people hadn't read the actual link, so the departure point of the thread wasn't what I had posted, so no, I didn't like where it was going because it didn't really start where I did. Which is also pretty pathetic, so I say we're evens.
( , Thu 6 Apr 2017, 14:25, Share, Reply)
It was becoming quite apparent people hadn't read the actual link, so the departure point of the thread wasn't what I had posted, so no, I didn't like where it was going because it didn't really start where I did. Which is also pretty pathetic, so I say we're evens.
( , Thu 6 Apr 2017, 14:25, Share, Reply)
I deleted the thread, but I was, like, totally right, and not at all losing the argument
let me give you the imagined highlights in some alternate reality where my wildly innacurate assertions weren't comprehensively debunked. Seriously, are you still claiming you're right after deleting the thread so nobody can read your embarrasing blather? Seems a bit unsportsmanlike
( , Thu 6 Apr 2017, 15:15, Share, Reply)
let me give you the imagined highlights in some alternate reality where my wildly innacurate assertions weren't comprehensively debunked. Seriously, are you still claiming you're right after deleting the thread so nobody can read your embarrasing blather? Seems a bit unsportsmanlike
( , Thu 6 Apr 2017, 15:15, Share, Reply)
I posted a link and came back seven hours later.
I did begin to engage with a couple of replies but realised it was a total waste of time within two minutes as it was crystal clear only a minority had read the link. So I impulsively thought I'd bin the whole thing. So there was no "blather" and no one had "debunked" my argument as I hadn't made one other than post a link I agreed with. Your suggestion I did all that is extremely unsportsmanlike.
( , Thu 6 Apr 2017, 15:41, Share, Reply)
I did begin to engage with a couple of replies but realised it was a total waste of time within two minutes as it was crystal clear only a minority had read the link. So I impulsively thought I'd bin the whole thing. So there was no "blather" and no one had "debunked" my argument as I hadn't made one other than post a link I agreed with. Your suggestion I did all that is extremely unsportsmanlike.
( , Thu 6 Apr 2017, 15:41, Share, Reply)
now, I could point out what actually happened in the thread, rather slighly unhinged take on it, but you'll probably delete this one
it puts me in mind of homer simpson recalling a party www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1Oa6P7D2NQ
I mean, I enjoyed making the arguments and posting links to the evidence that supported them, I just didn't stop to consider that I was debating with a massive retard with a chip on his shoulder
( , Thu 6 Apr 2017, 15:57, Share, Reply)
it puts me in mind of homer simpson recalling a party www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1Oa6P7D2NQ
I mean, I enjoyed making the arguments and posting links to the evidence that supported them, I just didn't stop to consider that I was debating with a massive retard with a chip on his shoulder
( , Thu 6 Apr 2017, 15:57, Share, Reply)
Go ahead, but just don't lie and claim I was heavily involved in the thread.
I posted three replies. None were replied to as they were only up for two minutes before I flounced. The first was to you. The entirety of it was: "no". The second was to you. It related to your claim that Hitler made a deal with "Zionist Israel". I aggressively and swearily pointed out that Israel did not exist in Hitler's lifetime, so you were clearly making stuff up. The third was to Cerebus, made more in sorrow than in anger.
EDIT: regarding your edit, we did not engage in an argument, you did not reply to either of my replies to you as they were not up for long enough. You are confusing me with someone else. Stop making shit up.
( , Thu 6 Apr 2017, 16:12, Share, Reply)
I posted three replies. None were replied to as they were only up for two minutes before I flounced. The first was to you. The entirety of it was: "no". The second was to you. It related to your claim that Hitler made a deal with "Zionist Israel". I aggressively and swearily pointed out that Israel did not exist in Hitler's lifetime, so you were clearly making stuff up. The third was to Cerebus, made more in sorrow than in anger.
EDIT: regarding your edit, we did not engage in an argument, you did not reply to either of my replies to you as they were not up for long enough. You are confusing me with someone else. Stop making shit up.
( , Thu 6 Apr 2017, 16:12, Share, Reply)
Just let it go, Prufrock. As a thread-deleter you have zero credibility and what appears to be a terrible memory
if you want to have credibility then don't delete threads in the future. Losing an argument, deleting it and claiming you were right seems a very poor tactic, and it wastes a lot of peoples energy
( , Thu 6 Apr 2017, 16:32, Share, Reply)
if you want to have credibility then don't delete threads in the future. Losing an argument, deleting it and claiming you were right seems a very poor tactic, and it wastes a lot of peoples energy
( , Thu 6 Apr 2017, 16:32, Share, Reply)
You weren't arguing with me.
I know who it was but I don't want to stir things. I didn't lose an argument. I didn't get into one. Ken Livingstone is a cunt, and so are you. And no returns.
( , Thu 6 Apr 2017, 16:57, Share, Reply)
I know who it was but I don't want to stir things. I didn't lose an argument. I didn't get into one. Ken Livingstone is a cunt, and so are you. And no returns.
( , Thu 6 Apr 2017, 16:57, Share, Reply)
i hope I wasn't out of line with that retard crack earlier
you appear to have a genuine neurodevelopmental disorder and I wouldn't have used that word if I'd known. I apologise, it was insensitive
( , Thu 6 Apr 2017, 17:23, Share, Reply)
you appear to have a genuine neurodevelopmental disorder and I wouldn't have used that word if I'd known. I apologise, it was insensitive
( , Thu 6 Apr 2017, 17:23, Share, Reply)
Yeah, but, here's the thing...
I was actually waiting for someone to respond to Pru's arguments then the thread disappeared.
You see, pointing out that Israel didn't actually exist until after Hitler had died did seem to be quite a good irrefutable argument, and I was genuinely interested to see where that went, then the thread vanished. Up until that point the whole thing was total dross.
So, while I agree that demolishing the thread was poor form, I also think Pru's analysis of it is actually spot on.
( , Thu 6 Apr 2017, 20:13, Share, Reply)
I was actually waiting for someone to respond to Pru's arguments then the thread disappeared.
You see, pointing out that Israel didn't actually exist until after Hitler had died did seem to be quite a good irrefutable argument, and I was genuinely interested to see where that went, then the thread vanished. Up until that point the whole thing was total dross.
So, while I agree that demolishing the thread was poor form, I also think Pru's analysis of it is actually spot on.
( , Thu 6 Apr 2017, 20:13, Share, Reply)
It was poor form to bin it. It was rash and impulsive.
However as I say in my sig... and also people were defending Ken with his very own arguments that have been vehemently refuted as wrong right across the political spectrum so I thought what is the point? He's getting facts wrong and very badly misrepresentated that wotsit agreement.
( , Thu 6 Apr 2017, 22:51, Share, Reply)
However as I say in my sig... and also people were defending Ken with his very own arguments that have been vehemently refuted as wrong right across the political spectrum so I thought what is the point? He's getting facts wrong and very badly misrepresentated that wotsit agreement.
( , Thu 6 Apr 2017, 22:51, Share, Reply)
Ahh pooor little snowflake. Did the nasty men on the internet hurt your fee fee?
( , Fri 7 Apr 2017, 0:14, Share, Reply)
As ever, a witty and intelligent rejoinder.
Keep 'em coming.
( , Fri 7 Apr 2017, 0:30, Share, Reply)
Keep 'em coming.
( , Fri 7 Apr 2017, 0:30, Share, Reply)