Man killed by cops, shot multiple times
Can we expect another Anaheim?
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Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Mon 20 Aug 2012, 11:43,
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That wasn't a Police response
That was a firing squad.
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wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Mon 20 Aug 2012, 17:58,
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I'm assuming the first shot was a nervous twitch/slip of the finger
the shock/bang caused the others to fire by accident
then panic sets in and they continue to fire while their brain tries to comprehend why they are firing/am I in danger etc.
My question is, why the fuck were they pointing guns at a man with a knife. Surely a tazer and pepper spray would have been protocol?
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HappyToast Groat froth, Mon 20 Aug 2012, 12:03,
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Well quite
But this is America, and they like their guns
"Society has to take the glory out of guns." -David Berkowitz, from his prison cell.
A country has a problem when the only sane advice is coming from the insane
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Jahled Three shades of black, Mon 20 Aug 2012, 12:15,
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well there's insane and there's insane
and there's folk locked in asylums for what they said on the internet
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Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Mon 20 Aug 2012, 12:35,
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Well given the amount of problems ex marines have if one were to post the following I would hope somebody has the sense to check him out
"The Revolution is here. And I will lead it."
"I know many of you think I'm going crazy, and are wondering just why I have been posting the things I have been posting. I don't have the energy to explain. Just know that a new beginning is coming."
"If you are unaware of the great amount of evil perpetrated by the American Government I suggest you take … your head out of the sand. The day of reckoning is almost at hand."
"I am standing against a great evil. I will do it all by myself if I have to."
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Mon 20 Aug 2012, 13:39,
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^This
and it's the sort of thing pointed out after a massacre that should have been spotted by the authorities as a loose fuse about to blow
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Jahled Three shades of black, Mon 20 Aug 2012, 13:44,
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i think there are too many people threatening revolution online and not carrying it out
for that to be a symptom of mental health problems themselves sufficient to be detained at a psychiatric hospital. Those posts are all crazy sounding but there are no direct threats against any individuals or organisations. if you think everyone who says stuff like this should be detained then you have to accept further encroachment on people's liberties regarding mental health legislation and the attendant cost of building lots and lots and lots more hospitals. cos as it stand in the uk people have to be a lot madder than that to be detained.
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tickle I was away, Mon 20 Aug 2012, 14:51,
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He's a former marine, a veteren from Iraq and Afghanistan.
I would expect the govenment watch out for their well being given the amount of PTSD.
Also someone made a complaint.
Who knows what happened in that police station to make them want to section him?
[edit]
www2.timesdispatch.com/news/2012/aug/20/tdmet01-veteran-has-hearing-today-mother-says-ar-2142038/
Looks like it was his old platoon leader that shopped him.
""Knowing the man that he is, I believe that he fully intended to act on the threats he was posting," "
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Mon 20 Aug 2012, 15:04,
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fair do's.
you're absolutely right. he could have been all kinds of psychotic when they got him to the station. then he may well have said or done something that would mean he should be detained. my point was only that he didn't meet criteria just for what he said online. we would need a whole other government agency for investigated wild internet claims if everyone who posted something a bit mental online had to be interviewed to see if they were crazy.
[edit] ""Sharpen up my axe; I'm here to sever heads," he posted Aug. 13." yeah. see that's much more worrying for starters...
although it has to be said that just having extreme politics or being very focused on conspiracy theories (which is aparently what worried his old commander) isn't indicative of mental ill health. i'm not disagreeing with what you're saying, i just think it's pretty weird that the fbi had the police take this dude to hospital. if he was very clearly going to do something illegal then taking him to the cop shop would be the better bet. the soviets took a lot of anti-government people to mental hospitals. they are a very good way to detain someone without evidence of a crime.
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tickle I was away, Mon 20 Aug 2012, 15:11,
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Not a lot we don't know you could add to that that would justify that onslaught of bullets
short of the guy being almost bullet proof or something. Nervous cops pointing lethal weapons and fucking up in unison I guess.
Sadly, if you act in a deranged manor wielding a knife, the odds are never going to be good
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Jahled Three shades of black, Mon 20 Aug 2012, 11:56,
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deranged manor,
like where one of Oscar Wilde's characters lives.
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Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Mon 20 Aug 2012, 11:58,
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Tazer or gun?
Ah, let's shoot the shit out of him just to be sure.
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Fray Brentos *mega-belms*, Mon 20 Aug 2012, 12:05,
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Have you checked out your Fantasy Footbal Fray?
Your team is a runaway success.
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Pig Bodine., Mon 20 Aug 2012, 12:08,
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I don't know if you interact much with Miss Fortunate
just to let you know she'll be 40 tomorrow
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The Scrunt Wants a Dozen Pints, Mon 20 Aug 2012, 12:30,
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Haha, no. Nil point?
I'm often tempted to send letters to Premiership footballers demanding ££££s in return for me not using them in my fantasy team. I'm a hex.
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Fray Brentos *mega-belms*, Mon 20 Aug 2012, 14:19,
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You've achieved a whopping 3 points.
Current point average is 31 with top of our league at 64 :)
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Pig Bodine., Mon 20 Aug 2012, 15:36,
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He's not last
I'm last.....
....Fucknuts
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Fadgebadger Sweaty sumo wanks for everyone!, Mon 20 Aug 2012, 15:54,
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Which team are you? - I can only see Belmchester Rovers at #97.
There's a few more points to pick up tonight and Wednesday so the table might move a bit but it doesn't look promising.
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Pig Bodine., Mon 20 Aug 2012, 16:04,
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My bad
Missed the lovely "next" button at the bottom. Looks like I'm dead center. The Rectadons by the way...
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Fadgebadger Sweaty sumo wanks for everyone!, Mon 20 Aug 2012, 16:11,
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I believe
the protocol is if you have made the choice to shoot, you shoot to 'stop' (ie kill) so they aim for main body mass. I have never seen a better example of where a Tazer could be used though. Or even the dog.
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TheSundaeLunch I'm a fucking shrub, alright?, Mon 20 Aug 2012, 12:45,
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or this guy
www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzmCNoqZg-8
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Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Mon 20 Aug 2012, 13:05,
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Well clearly
this is down to too few guns being involved in the situation. As our American cousins keep pointing out - if everyone's got a gun, situations like this don't happen. The chap who got shot clearly got this wrong and carried a knife instead. If he'd had a pistol, eerything would have been hunky dory.
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They could of warned that the video was going to be graphic.
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skeltonator Needs some new daps., Mon 20 Aug 2012, 12:40,
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I like how it's ok to broadcast a man being shot to death, but the words "shit" and "motherfucker" are just a wee bit beyond the pale.
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I remember seeing a video posted here a while ago
Comparing broadcastable violence versus broadcastable sex. It made the point rather well I believe.
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Extinct Jesus Dossier "...I think it counteracts Hitler's magic...", Mon 20 Aug 2012, 15:49,
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