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This is a normal post it's pretty silly to use a corporate behemoth to host your activism groups eh?
this is why people use services like riseup.net i reckon. still a bit scary and annoying.
 (I helped save b3ta! tickle I was away, Sat 30 Apr 2011, 14:02, Reply)
This is a normal post its probably a numbers thing
no doubt they know how absurd it is, but do it because they get more attention and hits on facebook. A necessary evil to spread awareness. Or perhaps the idea of using the machinery of control against itself appeals. I'd be surprised if they gave detailed personal info on that site

also the timing of the deletions seem to coincide with the other heavy handed crackdowns and pre emptive arrests around the royal wedding
 (Miss B3thpot, Sat 30 Apr 2011, 14:14, Reply)
This is a normal post hahahahahahahahahahaha facebook anarchists
Click Like if you Don't Like this
 (I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Sat 30 Apr 2011, 14:04, Reply)
This is a normal post why hahahaha?
is it cos anarchists are cunts or cos their slackivists or what?
 (I helped save b3ta! tickle I was away, Sat 30 Apr 2011, 14:07, Reply)
This is a normal post It might be the irony of anarchists using a major third party website on their flash laptops

(User #86772, Sat 30 Apr 2011, 14:10, Reply)
This is a normal post cos all anarchists have flash laptops?

(I helped save b3ta! tickle I was away, Sat 30 Apr 2011, 14:25, Reply)
This is a normal post er, no, just find it funny people using Facebook for serious business
but if they are anarchists surely they should approve of the system (facebook) being overthrown and their pages being shut down causing disruption and confusion?
 (I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Sat 30 Apr 2011, 14:12, Reply)
This is a normal post Why do you assume they are anarchists?
You can be an activist and not an anarchist, dontchaknow.
 (I helped save b3ta! Damocles wants no part of your debauchery, Sat 30 Apr 2011, 14:27, Reply)
This is a normal post please take me out and have me shot for misreading the word activist or sub consciously associating anarchy with activism
I sincerely apologise with all my heart that my misreading has caused such offence.
The fact that at least one of the sites shut down mentions Anarchists should not be taken in to account.

Also, I said "if they are" not "these people are all anarchists"
 (I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Sat 30 Apr 2011, 14:31, Reply)
This is a normal post ok, let me get my gun.
Might take me a while to find my special over-the-top-sarcasm-piercing bullets though.
 (I helped save b3ta! Damocles wants no part of your debauchery, Sat 30 Apr 2011, 14:34, Reply)
This is a normal post I'll wait, I've nothing better to do

(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Sat 30 Apr 2011, 14:37, Reply)
This is a normal post i know what you mean.
i recall that only 3 or 4 years ago active peoplei know were much much more wary of coporate email even.
 (I helped save b3ta! tickle I was away, Sat 30 Apr 2011, 14:27, Reply)
This is a normal post Anarchism doesn't mean you can't use websites
Anarchism just means individual freedom opposed to a single ruler
to that end facebook as an idea is quite an anarchist one, or at least it should be.

I think theres a bit of a disconnect between peoples image of anarchists and the actual political ideology surrounding anarchism.
According to george orwell "../said anarchists are not against organisation as such; they are only against organisation based on authority, i.e. a hierarchical form of organisation"
 (I helped save b3ta! Rebel biscuit stercore sumus et nos esse novimus, Sat 30 Apr 2011, 14:41, Reply)
This is a normal post but that's only one form of anarchist
an·ar·chist (noun) a person who promotes disorder or excites revolt against any established rule, law, or custom.

Facebook can easily be described as a custom in this day and age, and more importantly one that profits from the sharing of information, bad advertising etc etc the stuff that in the old days anarchists would be fucking furious about.

I find anarchy very odd when it is only aimed at specific things, doesn't seem like anarchy to me, more just displeasure with one company/organisations success.
 (I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Sat 30 Apr 2011, 14:45, Reply)
This is a normal post
groups profiles which are supposed to be for real people and not organisations; that is what Facebook pages and groups are for.
www.jonworth.eu/over-50-political-accounts-deleted-in-facebook-purge-its-much-more-complicated/
 (User #86772, Sat 30 Apr 2011, 14:09, Reply)
This is a normal post There are business with Facebook pages.
Did they shut down pages created by Egyptians, Libians and Syrians to help communicate and organise?
 (I helped save b3ta! Avast is still alive!!!!, Sat 30 Apr 2011, 19:20, Reply)
This is a normal post The problem is broader than this
we are voluntarily privatising our private lives, handing over so much personal information and ultimately control over our private lives to private companies.
If states were running facebook, twitter etc they would be seen as totalitarian regimes, but since people click a checkbox for 'terms and service' that few read, it's all ok.

The fact is that websites like Facebook, eBay, Google, Paypal, Twitter have enormous power, a de facto monopoly even. It is hard to maintain a normal online life without their services. They act as modern day virtual utilities. Once upon a time, important utilities were regulated up the arse to ensure they didn't abuse their power.

I imagine governments like this to some extent, instead of getting warrants and court orders etc, they can just ask these major players to bar a particular user or organisation.

FaceBook, Google, Amazon, eBay, whatever private website, is ultimately acting for its own interests. They can do whatever the fuck they want. If you have a problem with this, then change the law, but good luck organising that online.
 (I helped save b3ta! Sextant goes to him is emotionally erect, on this day, Sat 30 Apr 2011, 15:05, Reply)
This is a normal post Or
https://joindiaspora.com/
 (I helped save b3ta! jdtg06, Sat 30 Apr 2011, 23:46, Reply)
This is a normal post That just made my day.
- fucking freetards.
 (I helped save b3ta! buffet_the_appetite_slayer ٩(●̮̃•)۶ jacked in to the ICE on, Sat 30 Apr 2011, 16:03, Reply)
This is a normal post both good links.
first comment from the grauniad FTW:

"The day that free speech officially became a crime against the state and that legitimate forums for protest were closed. It is an exercise of power on the day that the idle rich chose to rub our faces in their centuries old inherited privilege. Drive any form of opposition underground and criminalise it. It feels a bit colder and darker today."

b3ta is getting a bit right wing these days. The student protest threads were way depressing, mostly people blamed students for protesting! Even in the bristol tesco thread people seemed against the protestors and pro tesco (which avoids tax big fucking time - all in it together huh?)

and then last night a thread on here about the royal wedding - well it read like a bunch of fucking daily mail comments.

The rich have won. They own the conversation, and have couched it in their terms - all dissent is bad, all protest is bad; look at these yobbos smashing things up - get a life, etc etc. and now people on b3ta are sticking up for the rich and powerful, standing against the protestors. Yet when they saw it in egypt, they cheered on the protestors!
 (I helped save b3ta! Avast is still alive!!!!, Sat 30 Apr 2011, 17:54, Reply)
This is a normal post edit:
oh god, i've just read the depressing thread down the page. fcuk.ing.hell b3ta. seriously, some people here are closet mail readers.
 (I helped save b3ta! Avast is still alive!!!!, Sat 30 Apr 2011, 18:01, Reply)
This is a normal post Don't worry.
Whenever political links are posted on here, the ones with the strongest opinions are always the ones who'll stop and speak their mind. The rest just shrug and scroll past to the videos of kittens.
 (User #86772, Sat 30 Apr 2011, 18:51, Reply)
This is a normal post it all seems to be getting a bit right wing
but in a strange "right on" kinda way.
 (I helped save b3ta! Avast is still alive!!!!, Sat 30 Apr 2011, 19:08, Reply)
This is a normal post A bit right wing?
It's more like b3DL these days.

I don't come here much anymore for that reason, once that type turns up artistic expression takes a holiday.
 (Captain_lambkin adifferent.me, Sat 30 Apr 2011, 23:28, Reply)