I'd publicly flog
anyone who claims that 'driving is a privilege and not a right'.

Man made cars, and man made roads, therefore man has a fucking right to drive cars on roads.

Privilege: : a right or immunity granted as a peculiar benefit, advantage, or favour.

If it's a privilege who's granting the benefit or favour then? Fucking aliens?
(dchurch bah, Sun 25 Sep 2011, 17:51, 23 replies)

Is that you Jezza?.....

( SalmonFilter, Sun 25 Sep 2011, 18:32, closed)

the government
when they give you a licence. as a benefit of not being a total liability to yourself and others. or have you never bothered with that bit?
(cypherspace is not a toaster, Sun 25 Sep 2011, 19:59, closed)

Bullshit.
that's simply a convention that we've agreed to.
(dchurch bah, Sun 25 Sep 2011, 21:28, closed)

Like money.
Or numbers.
Or hand gun ownership.
(sabre-tooth monkey, Mon 26 Sep 2011, 10:06, closed)

It's people like you that have caused global warming.
I hope you're happy.
( The Mock TurtIe ™ --- Thinks you are a cunt, on, Sun 25 Sep 2011, 20:36, closed)

confused... 'Privilege: : a right'
( enoughblueskyforsailorstrousers, Sun 25 Sep 2011, 21:40, closed)

Indeed.
It's apparently either one or the other, some argue.

It's also not a favour, and it's not a peculiar benefit. It's certainly not an advantage, as there's about 29 million people doing it in this country alone, each one of us paying through the nose to do it.
(dchurch bah, Sun 25 Sep 2011, 21:54, closed)

Following on from that.
Almost everything one can do is a right and one has a right to own almost anything*. However, we do have to live without knowingly doing harm to others -- so that means a good many things which we have a right to do come with responsibilities.

*I may be wrong but I've a feeling this is how the law works in the UK -- with only things explicitly not allowed to do or own being stated and everything else being implicitly allowed.
(Me, I'm not... in any way intoxicated, Sun 25 Sep 2011, 23:16, closed)

I think that is how it should work,
but there seems to be a bunch of people who want us all to believe that it's a privelige just to exist.
As far as I'm concerned it's anything goes as long it's not having a negative impact on anyone else.
(M61A1 CUPID- STUNTS, Mon 26 Sep 2011, 4:09, closed)

Surely only the specific man who invented the car would have a right to it?
By your logic, if the England team won the World Cup, I would have the right to have it on my mantelpiece, seeing as it was won by man
(Godwin's Lawyer is more evil than Hitler, Sun 25 Sep 2011, 23:42, closed)

Most certainly
if you went out and made or bought one.
I have reservations about what you term "logic".
(M61A1 CUPID- STUNTS, Mon 26 Sep 2011, 4:11, closed)

"The" World Cup - not a replica
I have severe reservations about your ability to understand my basic point

For reference, see the below replies - they sum it up much more succinctly than I managed
(Godwin's Lawyer is more evil than Hitler, Mon 26 Sep 2011, 12:06, closed)

Oh, it's your right
Seeing as it was you that invented and built all extant roads and cars.

Fucksponge.
( Ungersven would support SpankyHanky's patreon, Mon 26 Sep 2011, 4:22, closed)

I didn't
invent cars, as they had been invented long before I was born. The roads, however, I also didn't build, but I paid someone to do it for me, thus buying the right to use them.
(dchurch bah, Mon 26 Sep 2011, 19:26, closed)

Men made Boeing 747s
So it's my right to fly one, however I like?
( Olembe Refuses to write in this space, Mon 26 Sep 2011, 8:46, closed)

Extend the logic
If driving cars is a right, then so must be owning and firing guns. Look at the USA for several million reasons not to adopt this policy. Having spent a fair proportion of my life clearing up after the abuse of cars, guns and other weapons, I would definitely say they are deserving of control and privilege.
(Classic Ray, Mon 26 Sep 2011, 9:27, closed)

St. Louis, MO
was once the 2nd most dangerous city in the world. Once the outlawing of gun ownership inside the city limits was lifted, it went down to the 285th.
(dchurch bah, Mon 26 Sep 2011, 19:27, closed)

Association does not imply causality
Gun ownership is associated with gun deaths. The higher the level of ownership the higher the number of firearm deaths.
(Freudian_Lisp, Mon 26 Sep 2011, 20:01, closed)

Then
explain how more people in London are shot than in New York. Outlawing guns means only outlaws have guns.
(dchurch bah, Mon 26 Sep 2011, 21:49, closed)

Intruiging...
if it's true. I'd love to see your stats... It would certainly go against the trend as the firearm-related death-rate per 100,000 population in the US is 15.22 and 0.46 in the UK.
(Freudian_Lisp, Mon 26 Sep 2011, 23:23, closed)

Man, however, didn't make the planet
which is being royally fucked up by Mail-reading motorists driving little Sophie to school in a RAV4.

Nice try, though.
(Guy Debord cette mauvaise réputation..., Mon 26 Sep 2011, 10:28, closed)

Citation?
There's no evidence that cars, or 4x4s are doing anything to fuck up the planet.
(dchurch bah, Mon 26 Sep 2011, 19:28, closed)

Evidence
Here you go - Globalwarming impacts of transport by
Laurie Michaelis, Science of The Total Environment
Volume 134, Issues 1-3, 25 June 1993, Pages 117-124

Suck on that!
(sleekloon Curing Cancer one cell at a time., Tue 27 Sep 2011, 0:31, closed)