Get Rich Quick
Jabboy contacted us because he's skint. So what have you done to make money fast? Did you actually make anything, or were you just ripped off by someone who really was getting rich quick? Did you have to sell your soul?
PS. Jabboy is available for rent on 0870 88673242
( , Thu 31 Jul 2008, 16:57)
Jabboy contacted us because he's skint. So what have you done to make money fast? Did you actually make anything, or were you just ripped off by someone who really was getting rich quick? Did you have to sell your soul?
PS. Jabboy is available for rent on 0870 88673242
( , Thu 31 Jul 2008, 16:57)
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remember when you were 5 and you tried to draw your own money and wondered how easy it would be to be rich?
funnily enough you're not the only bright spark who had that idea only these charmers didn't get the 'silly' idea conditioned out of them
the easiest way to become filthy rich was decided decades ago , in one big happy party, and you weren’t invited
become rich by printing your own money - nothing but paper notes, then just assign a value to it and take it off the gold standard (not redeemable by gold or silver ) - then control the supply so you can cause a depression by then flooding the market with this paper currency and charging interest on it which is repayable in real collateral such as labour and property thus making yourself obscenely wealthy in real terms (a.k.a. THE MANDRAKE MECHANISM )
think it can't be done? this is how fiat currency and central banks operate and the scam has been ticking along merrily for well over 60 years (and the money system scam since Sumer and the Hamites)
but how do you con a whole generation into the scam? and how do you get people to go along with this system?
let's skip back a few thousand years to ancient Sumer, The Euphrates River and Ancient Egypt and "the Nile deluge"
the (river) bank controls the current (water)
the (financial) bank controls the currency (money)
the interchangability of the terms is not coincidence
it’s derived from the practice of banking the rivers to create population movement and coerce people into living in the city states - forcing them to give up their humane way of living of farming and barter - (how we should be living) - to an imposed system of money and governance through an elitist class structure of controlled knowledge
in early Egypt the Nile was originally a Deluge that came down from the mountains and flowed North - creating massive swamps and tributaries - the Hamites came in and created one river (BANKS) - the people who used to have water access for their crops had to move into the created cities (and ‘civilisation’ ) and became slaves for the 'understanding class' who had access to ‘the sciences’ or ‘The mystery religions’ as they were known back then. (this survives today via Freemasonry - ask your local policeman, judge, solictor, university lecturer etc or anyone with a uniform (UNI_FORM - to shape as one - within))
once you have your population in your city state, that’s when the fun really starts in the form of taxes (CURRENCY) and labour. Which are then extracted by the ruling elite (the priesthoods and leisure classes) - with taxes came the creation of standing armies and the suppression of the governed populations - it’s an old formulae used by all elites throughout history for millennia (this is why the bee hive (BE_HAVE) is such an ancient symbol in freemasonry - and especially now as we are led into “the New Age” - with the new eco religion of ‘Gaia worship’ Gorbachev wrote of recently - and the whole Club of Rome climate change con we see emerging)
to have this elite class living in luxury supported by a labouring underclass you need money(to pay the standing armies) and there needs to be a system in place to make it all happen - and a beaurocratic structure to maintain it - scoot forward a few thousand years and we take this system to its ‘natural’ conclusion with the ultimate scam
fractal reserve banking and fiat currency
(incidently to get people to adhere to this fictional system, fictional corporations are out of ‘us’ - i.e. your ‘person’ via the birth registration process - more in my profile for info for natural person v corporate person links iand Video by Robert Arthur Menard on the Law that will change your life in bite size chunks )
money is created from deposits and the capital of the bank against which they are permitted by the Bank Of England to lend a certain amount based upon the (im)probability of all deposits being called back at the same time
they are permitted to create the money in relation to how much actual money they hold - they are still creating it from nothing - as a rough example, say someone deposits £1000 in the bank of actual money from his labour in the real world - from that deposit they loan out £9000 created money based on having that real money deposited in - and charge interest on it
ah but they say - interest is charged by banks as compensation for loss of liquidity , i.e giving the money to you instead of doing something else with it
however it is brought into existence by the loan application procedure
and the amount they are allowed to create is much higher than the amount of real money they hold -- that money could not be created from nothing without your signature
your signature manifests the money
the central banks scam is ingenious because of its simplicity
( to see how the Vatican and Jesuits (JP Morgan/ Rothchilds listed in Encyclopedia Judaeica as treasurers of the Vatican) worked for so long to implement a central bank in the US see The secret terrorists by BiIll Hughes
www.geocities.com/thesecretterrorists/book/ch1.html www.mininova.org/tor/302178 and Vatican Assasins by Eric Phelps - both available free online )
the reason the scam works so well is because he central banks control the currency of an entire nation, i.e. the control of interest rates and money supply (inflation) -
it loans to the government at interest and then regulates value of this currency through supply
this entire mechanism only produces one thing - DEBT
every note is produced with interest (debt) attached - - the effect is the central bank has to perpetually increase the money supply to cover the outstanding debt created - which in turn creates more debt - what we have is a very sophisticated form of slavery - as it is impossible for people and government to come out of this self perpetuating cycle of debt
in the 20s they refined this scam by increasing the money supply and creating high risk loans (hence the period known as the Roaring 20s) - they then called in the loans en masse causing massive sell offs and bank runs enabling the central bank to buy up whole corporations on the cheap - -the bank then contracted the money supply creating -the great depression of the 1930s -
sound familiar? the exact same process is in play today by the same central banks (abundant credit followed by reduced money supply and loans resulting in mass home loss and recession)
the cost of living and petrol is so high because e the currency is devaluing
this can be demonstrated easily if we look at a time when the money was on the gold standard in the US
in 1947 one gallon of petrol was 23 cents - or ‘a quarter’
a quarter was 1 quater of an ounce of silver (unilke thoseissued after 1967)
current rate of silver is 1 ounce = 18 dollars (apporx) in todays market
so the 1947 quarter is 4 dollars
question: ghow much is 1 gallon of petrol in $ ? -
answer: $4
or to put it another way a 1947 silver quarter
petrol isn’t going up the dollar is devaluing
(as predicted in books by the likes of CFR historian Carroll Quigley(Tragedy and Hope) , Jacques Attali (Millenium) decades ago - all part of the plat to move them into the Amero and NOrth American Union in 2010 - again, see profile for more info - and also the rise of China and recession of the US written about 15 years ago)
QUOTES:
“if the people allow central banks to control the money supply the people will wake up homeless deprived of their property” -Thomas Jefferson
“a world banking system was being set up, a superstate controlled by international bankers acting togather to enslave th world” en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_T._McFadden Louis Mc Fadden (later poisoned)
“the world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined by those who are not behind the scenes” Benjamin Disraeli
interview and numerous clips on how the corruption of the modern Banking system and what Mussolini termed 'corporatism' (the merging of corporations and government) -
links for G. Edward Griffin book 'The Creature from Jekyll Island'
www.biblebelievers.org.au/jekyll.htm
www.financialsense.com/transcriptions/2006/1018griffin.html
the end goal of the Banking system is the cashless society on personal chips - the biggest threat to our personal freedom
futher points of research i f anyone gives a toss as well as numerous links and info sources are in my profile:
JP Morgan - fed reaserve (it was their estate the 1913 act was signed on - Jekyll Island) - links to the Vatican treasury - JP Morgan is also Blairs new gig after he converted to ctaholism -
Alperin (check spelling) v Vatican Bank court case in San Fransisco www.arcticbeacon.com/articles/12-May-2007.html - gaining compensation for the Serbian and Jewish genocide survivors - a genocide showing nazis and Fransican priests inviolvment backed by Vatican - during court case obstruced from revealing true extent of Vatican wealth - said to run into the trillions in gold and real estate - NOT fiat currency
on a final note for those who can’t be arsed putting the research in and seeing what is going on around them consider this
the Jews arrived at the train station with as many of their possessions as they could carry expecting to find traveling compartments
instead they found cattle cars
in disbelief, having focused only on themseves and not paying attention to what was happening around them - they had no other plan
We are standing at a similar place and the average westerner is so distracted with the trivia that we don't see or don't want to see what is going on around us even as the boxcars are pulling up to our stations
as mammals we are trained only to sense danger when the pack around us alerts us to it - that is why we are coaxed into apathy by a constant stream of trivia and entertainment as we are led like docile sheep into the next gate
apologies for the speed typing and scatological meandering text but hopefully you get the picture from the links
the formulae is simple, get the population dependant upon the system and the central banks through a perpetual cylcle of increasing debt and then steer the system in the direction you have planned
(length? - I married a black woman, nuff said)
( , Tue 5 Aug 2008, 15:53, 31 replies)
remember when you were 5 and you tried to draw your own money and wondered how easy it would be to be rich?
funnily enough you're not the only bright spark who had that idea only these charmers didn't get the 'silly' idea conditioned out of them
the easiest way to become filthy rich was decided decades ago , in one big happy party, and you weren’t invited
become rich by printing your own money - nothing but paper notes, then just assign a value to it and take it off the gold standard (not redeemable by gold or silver ) - then control the supply so you can cause a depression by then flooding the market with this paper currency and charging interest on it which is repayable in real collateral such as labour and property thus making yourself obscenely wealthy in real terms (a.k.a. THE MANDRAKE MECHANISM )
think it can't be done? this is how fiat currency and central banks operate and the scam has been ticking along merrily for well over 60 years (and the money system scam since Sumer and the Hamites)
but how do you con a whole generation into the scam? and how do you get people to go along with this system?
let's skip back a few thousand years to ancient Sumer, The Euphrates River and Ancient Egypt and "the Nile deluge"
the (river) bank controls the current (water)
the (financial) bank controls the currency (money)
the interchangability of the terms is not coincidence
it’s derived from the practice of banking the rivers to create population movement and coerce people into living in the city states - forcing them to give up their humane way of living of farming and barter - (how we should be living) - to an imposed system of money and governance through an elitist class structure of controlled knowledge
in early Egypt the Nile was originally a Deluge that came down from the mountains and flowed North - creating massive swamps and tributaries - the Hamites came in and created one river (BANKS) - the people who used to have water access for their crops had to move into the created cities (and ‘civilisation’ ) and became slaves for the 'understanding class' who had access to ‘the sciences’ or ‘The mystery religions’ as they were known back then. (this survives today via Freemasonry - ask your local policeman, judge, solictor, university lecturer etc or anyone with a uniform (UNI_FORM - to shape as one - within))
once you have your population in your city state, that’s when the fun really starts in the form of taxes (CURRENCY) and labour. Which are then extracted by the ruling elite (the priesthoods and leisure classes) - with taxes came the creation of standing armies and the suppression of the governed populations - it’s an old formulae used by all elites throughout history for millennia (this is why the bee hive (BE_HAVE) is such an ancient symbol in freemasonry - and especially now as we are led into “the New Age” - with the new eco religion of ‘Gaia worship’ Gorbachev wrote of recently - and the whole Club of Rome climate change con we see emerging)
to have this elite class living in luxury supported by a labouring underclass you need money(to pay the standing armies) and there needs to be a system in place to make it all happen - and a beaurocratic structure to maintain it - scoot forward a few thousand years and we take this system to its ‘natural’ conclusion with the ultimate scam
fractal reserve banking and fiat currency
(incidently to get people to adhere to this fictional system, fictional corporations are out of ‘us’ - i.e. your ‘person’ via the birth registration process - more in my profile for info for natural person v corporate person links iand Video by Robert Arthur Menard on the Law that will change your life in bite size chunks )
money is created from deposits and the capital of the bank against which they are permitted by the Bank Of England to lend a certain amount based upon the (im)probability of all deposits being called back at the same time
they are permitted to create the money in relation to how much actual money they hold - they are still creating it from nothing - as a rough example, say someone deposits £1000 in the bank of actual money from his labour in the real world - from that deposit they loan out £9000 created money based on having that real money deposited in - and charge interest on it
ah but they say - interest is charged by banks as compensation for loss of liquidity , i.e giving the money to you instead of doing something else with it
however it is brought into existence by the loan application procedure
and the amount they are allowed to create is much higher than the amount of real money they hold -- that money could not be created from nothing without your signature
your signature manifests the money
the central banks scam is ingenious because of its simplicity
( to see how the Vatican and Jesuits (JP Morgan/ Rothchilds listed in Encyclopedia Judaeica as treasurers of the Vatican) worked for so long to implement a central bank in the US see The secret terrorists by BiIll Hughes
www.geocities.com/thesecretterrorists/book/ch1.html www.mininova.org/tor/302178 and Vatican Assasins by Eric Phelps - both available free online )
the reason the scam works so well is because he central banks control the currency of an entire nation, i.e. the control of interest rates and money supply (inflation) -
it loans to the government at interest and then regulates value of this currency through supply
this entire mechanism only produces one thing - DEBT
every note is produced with interest (debt) attached - - the effect is the central bank has to perpetually increase the money supply to cover the outstanding debt created - which in turn creates more debt - what we have is a very sophisticated form of slavery - as it is impossible for people and government to come out of this self perpetuating cycle of debt
in the 20s they refined this scam by increasing the money supply and creating high risk loans (hence the period known as the Roaring 20s) - they then called in the loans en masse causing massive sell offs and bank runs enabling the central bank to buy up whole corporations on the cheap - -the bank then contracted the money supply creating -the great depression of the 1930s -
sound familiar? the exact same process is in play today by the same central banks (abundant credit followed by reduced money supply and loans resulting in mass home loss and recession)
the cost of living and petrol is so high because e the currency is devaluing
this can be demonstrated easily if we look at a time when the money was on the gold standard in the US
in 1947 one gallon of petrol was 23 cents - or ‘a quarter’
a quarter was 1 quater of an ounce of silver (unilke thoseissued after 1967)
current rate of silver is 1 ounce = 18 dollars (apporx) in todays market
so the 1947 quarter is 4 dollars
question: ghow much is 1 gallon of petrol in $ ? -
answer: $4
or to put it another way a 1947 silver quarter
petrol isn’t going up the dollar is devaluing
(as predicted in books by the likes of CFR historian Carroll Quigley(Tragedy and Hope) , Jacques Attali (Millenium) decades ago - all part of the plat to move them into the Amero and NOrth American Union in 2010 - again, see profile for more info - and also the rise of China and recession of the US written about 15 years ago)
QUOTES:
“if the people allow central banks to control the money supply the people will wake up homeless deprived of their property” -Thomas Jefferson
“a world banking system was being set up, a superstate controlled by international bankers acting togather to enslave th world” en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_T._McFadden Louis Mc Fadden (later poisoned)
“the world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined by those who are not behind the scenes” Benjamin Disraeli
interview and numerous clips on how the corruption of the modern Banking system and what Mussolini termed 'corporatism' (the merging of corporations and government) -
links for G. Edward Griffin book 'The Creature from Jekyll Island'
www.biblebelievers.org.au/jekyll.htm
www.financialsense.com/transcriptions/2006/1018griffin.html
the end goal of the Banking system is the cashless society on personal chips - the biggest threat to our personal freedom
futher points of research i f anyone gives a toss as well as numerous links and info sources are in my profile:
JP Morgan - fed reaserve (it was their estate the 1913 act was signed on - Jekyll Island) - links to the Vatican treasury - JP Morgan is also Blairs new gig after he converted to ctaholism -
Alperin (check spelling) v Vatican Bank court case in San Fransisco www.arcticbeacon.com/articles/12-May-2007.html - gaining compensation for the Serbian and Jewish genocide survivors - a genocide showing nazis and Fransican priests inviolvment backed by Vatican - during court case obstruced from revealing true extent of Vatican wealth - said to run into the trillions in gold and real estate - NOT fiat currency
on a final note for those who can’t be arsed putting the research in and seeing what is going on around them consider this
the Jews arrived at the train station with as many of their possessions as they could carry expecting to find traveling compartments
instead they found cattle cars
in disbelief, having focused only on themseves and not paying attention to what was happening around them - they had no other plan
We are standing at a similar place and the average westerner is so distracted with the trivia that we don't see or don't want to see what is going on around us even as the boxcars are pulling up to our stations
as mammals we are trained only to sense danger when the pack around us alerts us to it - that is why we are coaxed into apathy by a constant stream of trivia and entertainment as we are led like docile sheep into the next gate
apologies for the speed typing and scatological meandering text but hopefully you get the picture from the links
the formulae is simple, get the population dependant upon the system and the central banks through a perpetual cylcle of increasing debt and then steer the system in the direction you have planned
(length? - I married a black woman, nuff said)
( , Tue 5 Aug 2008, 15:53, 31 replies)
*click*
for explaining it all quite well.
Question is, what can be done about it?
( , Tue 5 Aug 2008, 16:07, closed)
for explaining it all quite well.
Question is, what can be done about it?
( , Tue 5 Aug 2008, 16:07, closed)
I've thought of another get-rich-quick scheme off the back of this
Corner the market in tinfoil hats.
( , Tue 5 Aug 2008, 16:18, closed)
Corner the market in tinfoil hats.
( , Tue 5 Aug 2008, 16:18, closed)
Actually
that's a good point, what relevance does this have to the QOTW?
This week is not: "Paranoid Delusions." Do you have problems coping with life, do you make up complex fantasies and attempt to justify them with half quotes crap links? Tell us about it.
( , Tue 5 Aug 2008, 16:22, closed)
that's a good point, what relevance does this have to the QOTW?
This week is not: "Paranoid Delusions." Do you have problems coping with life, do you make up complex fantasies and attempt to justify them with half quotes crap links? Tell us about it.
( , Tue 5 Aug 2008, 16:22, closed)
What I want to know is...
On the back of the reply to the 'quitters' question, did Enzyme remember to bring his etymological dictionary this time?
( , Tue 5 Aug 2008, 16:24, closed)
On the back of the reply to the 'quitters' question, did Enzyme remember to bring his etymological dictionary this time?
( , Tue 5 Aug 2008, 16:24, closed)
I can't imagine
Enzyme will even bother reading this tripe once he's realised who wrote it.
( , Tue 5 Aug 2008, 16:25, closed)
Enzyme will even bother reading this tripe once he's realised who wrote it.
( , Tue 5 Aug 2008, 16:25, closed)
I'm no financial wizard, nor an historian, but...
THIS IS COMPLETE BOLLOCKS.
Cheers.
( , Tue 5 Aug 2008, 16:27, closed)
THIS IS COMPLETE BOLLOCKS.
Cheers.
( , Tue 5 Aug 2008, 16:27, closed)
FFS lads,
the guy has gone to the trouble of putting together a half-decent yarn instead of just sniping and kitten-fancying. Credit where credit is due. Disagree if you like (you have my permission) but FFS, give the lad an inch.
( , Tue 5 Aug 2008, 16:32, closed)
the guy has gone to the trouble of putting together a half-decent yarn instead of just sniping and kitten-fancying. Credit where credit is due. Disagree if you like (you have my permission) but FFS, give the lad an inch.
( , Tue 5 Aug 2008, 16:32, closed)
too many words for me
Are we all doomed again unless we change the way evil society works?
( , Tue 5 Aug 2008, 16:36, closed)
Are we all doomed again unless we change the way evil society works?
( , Tue 5 Aug 2008, 16:36, closed)
It's well-put
but click through, this is a repeated theme of QOTW answers from The Goat.
I'm impressed at the effort put in, but I imagine that the people that've debated this with him on numerous occasions will now be quite tired of it.
( , Tue 5 Aug 2008, 16:37, closed)
but click through, this is a repeated theme of QOTW answers from The Goat.
I'm impressed at the effort put in, but I imagine that the people that've debated this with him on numerous occasions will now be quite tired of it.
( , Tue 5 Aug 2008, 16:37, closed)
@baz
we've had a few discussions of his stuff before, and I've looked into the main force behind his argument, this Menard chap, and at best it's ridiculous. At worst it's trying to convince people that they can turn their back on society which smacks of ignoring the problem and is only something that can be done on the sufferance of those in charge.
I doubt very much whether there is a sound legal basis for it, if there is then there it actually carrying out this reliquishing of your person carries a moral issue to me whereby you are trying to be entitled to everything without giving anything back.
( , Tue 5 Aug 2008, 16:38, closed)
we've had a few discussions of his stuff before, and I've looked into the main force behind his argument, this Menard chap, and at best it's ridiculous. At worst it's trying to convince people that they can turn their back on society which smacks of ignoring the problem and is only something that can be done on the sufferance of those in charge.
I doubt very much whether there is a sound legal basis for it, if there is then there it actually carrying out this reliquishing of your person carries a moral issue to me whereby you are trying to be entitled to everything without giving anything back.
( , Tue 5 Aug 2008, 16:38, closed)
Illuminati
Those reptilian, government ruling, free-masonary, mind-controlling, secretive bastards!
Now they're taking my own personal beer tokens aswell! Screw it, I'm off to set up a commune. Anyone coming?
(I'll be following the cult of BGB's religion which I recall scant detail of, yet vaguely remember something about loads of poontang and cakes on Fridays)
( , Tue 5 Aug 2008, 16:45, closed)
Those reptilian, government ruling, free-masonary, mind-controlling, secretive bastards!
Now they're taking my own personal beer tokens aswell! Screw it, I'm off to set up a commune. Anyone coming?
(I'll be following the cult of BGB's religion which I recall scant detail of, yet vaguely remember something about loads of poontang and cakes on Fridays)
( , Tue 5 Aug 2008, 16:45, closed)
@Vipros
dig, dude. Still, makes for a good read, fiction or otherwise. Not being much of a kitten-botherer, myself, it makes a nice change from teh fluffeh.
If I had my way, we'd have a Thunderdome installed and be done with it.
( , Tue 5 Aug 2008, 16:48, closed)
dig, dude. Still, makes for a good read, fiction or otherwise. Not being much of a kitten-botherer, myself, it makes a nice change from teh fluffeh.
If I had my way, we'd have a Thunderdome installed and be done with it.
( , Tue 5 Aug 2008, 16:48, closed)
@baz and The_Goat
I'm not denying it's an interesting read and it's given me something to get my brain around on a couple of occasions, but I just can't get behind it from what I've read, and The Goat doesn't help by overdramatising things.
If he comes back after he's carried out these break from society and tells us it works then fair play.
until then I'm going to remain sceptical.
( , Tue 5 Aug 2008, 16:51, closed)
I'm not denying it's an interesting read and it's given me something to get my brain around on a couple of occasions, but I just can't get behind it from what I've read, and The Goat doesn't help by overdramatising things.
If he comes back after he's carried out these break from society and tells us it works then fair play.
until then I'm going to remain sceptical.
( , Tue 5 Aug 2008, 16:51, closed)
@Vipros
baz = always sceptical of a man til he gets his round in.
( , Tue 5 Aug 2008, 16:54, closed)
baz = always sceptical of a man til he gets his round in.
( , Tue 5 Aug 2008, 16:54, closed)
No, fuck it, he's going on ignore
It's not just the long rambling irrelevant posts based on flawed logic, it's the incredibly irritating way he edits his posts and comments to remove things, or add things in, without referencing that he's done it.
Like his reply before, it was originally titled: Looks like the cattle cars are filling up again, or something similar, but now it's blank.
( , Tue 5 Aug 2008, 16:55, closed)
It's not just the long rambling irrelevant posts based on flawed logic, it's the incredibly irritating way he edits his posts and comments to remove things, or add things in, without referencing that he's done it.
Like his reply before, it was originally titled: Looks like the cattle cars are filling up again, or something similar, but now it's blank.
( , Tue 5 Aug 2008, 16:55, closed)
I hate to say it, but the French knew the score.
We all know that the majority of our governments are fuckwits of the highest order, but there isn't a whole lot we can do about it except vote in a new pack of arses.
The original republicans had the right idea by beheading the lot of them and installing a whole new set of tw@ts. Couldn't we put a clause in our law to say that any elected official could be executed by 80% referendum. That might scare them into thinking about 'us' rather than themselves??!
( , Tue 5 Aug 2008, 16:59, closed)
We all know that the majority of our governments are fuckwits of the highest order, but there isn't a whole lot we can do about it except vote in a new pack of arses.
The original republicans had the right idea by beheading the lot of them and installing a whole new set of tw@ts. Couldn't we put a clause in our law to say that any elected official could be executed by 80% referendum. That might scare them into thinking about 'us' rather than themselves??!
( , Tue 5 Aug 2008, 16:59, closed)
the french know what they are doing these days too
if they don't like something they riot and set fire to stuff. then it doesn't happen.
also, they make nice wine. and I like wine.
( , Tue 5 Aug 2008, 17:01, closed)
if they don't like something they riot and set fire to stuff. then it doesn't happen.
also, they make nice wine. and I like wine.
( , Tue 5 Aug 2008, 17:01, closed)
@ BGB
Apols, I may very well have confused you with CHCB. I've been away a while and messed my head up with too much work.
( , Tue 5 Aug 2008, 17:02, closed)
Apols, I may very well have confused you with CHCB. I've been away a while and messed my head up with too much work.
( , Tue 5 Aug 2008, 17:02, closed)
greecloud
interesting comment on the early republicans
there's a big difference bewteen a republic and a democracy
a democracy is 2 wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner (and can be steered by influencing mass opinion and via wealthy lobbyists)
a republic is a government of the people, by the people - recognising each individual's sovereign right
it's why the 'congress of Vienna' (Prince Metternicht?) in 1815 was set up to destroy it by the crown heads or europe and the largest geo political organisation on the planet (The Vatican)- hence the attempts at setting up a central bank oppossed by a succession of presidents and realised in 1913 (see Hughes and Phelps books for further info) through woodrow wilson - who later deeply regretted what he'd done
also look into the 14th Amendment and the creation of corporations such as the "district of Columbia"
" Article Six of the Congress of Vienna, which was in short, a promise to prevent or destroy Popular Governments wherever found, and to reestablish monarchy where it had been set aside."
in the Congressional Record of April 25th - Senator Robert Owen placed the following statement, which shows clearly he thought the target of this “Holy Alliance and conspiracy” was the USA
"The Holy Alliance having destroyed popular government in Spain, and in Italy, had well-laid plans also to destroy popular government in the American Colonies which had revolted from Spain and Portugal in Central and South America under the influence of the successful example of the United States.
It was because of this conspiracy against the American Republics by the European monarchies that the great English statesman, Canning, called the attention of our government to it. — Ibid. pp. 9, 10. "
the attempts to establish a central bank in the US was backed by the Vatican and these european banking families to destrioy the US Republic from within (they had 3 attempts prior to 1913)
this is all historical fact with plenty of quotes on th esubject by people from Washington to Samuel Morse - not surprisingly, considering how many Jesuit colleges there are now in the US there aren't too many places to find the books on the subject
the formulae is simple, get the population dependant upon the system and the central banks through a perpetual cylcle of increasing debt and then steer the system in the direction you have planned
( , Tue 5 Aug 2008, 17:14, closed)
interesting comment on the early republicans
there's a big difference bewteen a republic and a democracy
a democracy is 2 wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner (and can be steered by influencing mass opinion and via wealthy lobbyists)
a republic is a government of the people, by the people - recognising each individual's sovereign right
it's why the 'congress of Vienna' (Prince Metternicht?) in 1815 was set up to destroy it by the crown heads or europe and the largest geo political organisation on the planet (The Vatican)- hence the attempts at setting up a central bank oppossed by a succession of presidents and realised in 1913 (see Hughes and Phelps books for further info) through woodrow wilson - who later deeply regretted what he'd done
also look into the 14th Amendment and the creation of corporations such as the "district of Columbia"
" Article Six of the Congress of Vienna, which was in short, a promise to prevent or destroy Popular Governments wherever found, and to reestablish monarchy where it had been set aside."
in the Congressional Record of April 25th - Senator Robert Owen placed the following statement, which shows clearly he thought the target of this “Holy Alliance and conspiracy” was the USA
"The Holy Alliance having destroyed popular government in Spain, and in Italy, had well-laid plans also to destroy popular government in the American Colonies which had revolted from Spain and Portugal in Central and South America under the influence of the successful example of the United States.
It was because of this conspiracy against the American Republics by the European monarchies that the great English statesman, Canning, called the attention of our government to it. — Ibid. pp. 9, 10. "
the attempts to establish a central bank in the US was backed by the Vatican and these european banking families to destrioy the US Republic from within (they had 3 attempts prior to 1913)
this is all historical fact with plenty of quotes on th esubject by people from Washington to Samuel Morse - not surprisingly, considering how many Jesuit colleges there are now in the US there aren't too many places to find the books on the subject
the formulae is simple, get the population dependant upon the system and the central banks through a perpetual cylcle of increasing debt and then steer the system in the direction you have planned
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@ The Goat
Thanks for the compliment. If I could be arsed, I'd look up what you're quoting in order to agree / disagree in a knowledgeable way.
Look upon me as a sample of the UK population though. Joe Bloggs, if you will. I suffer greatly from political apathy. I know they're screwing us and I have a bit of a whinge, but really I couldn't give enough of a shit to actually do anything about it.
When in doubt, I try to simplify, to look at the "bigger picture" as it were. There are people around the world who have to put in 18 hours of back-breaking labour in order to bring home a loaf of bread to their shanty or hut.
I really haven't got it that bad have I?
( , Tue 5 Aug 2008, 17:30, closed)
Thanks for the compliment. If I could be arsed, I'd look up what you're quoting in order to agree / disagree in a knowledgeable way.
Look upon me as a sample of the UK population though. Joe Bloggs, if you will. I suffer greatly from political apathy. I know they're screwing us and I have a bit of a whinge, but really I couldn't give enough of a shit to actually do anything about it.
When in doubt, I try to simplify, to look at the "bigger picture" as it were. There are people around the world who have to put in 18 hours of back-breaking labour in order to bring home a loaf of bread to their shanty or hut.
I really haven't got it that bad have I?
( , Tue 5 Aug 2008, 17:30, closed)
This looked awfully long...
So I skipped to the end, to see if there was going to be a punch line. But all I found was this.
"the formulae is simple"
The formulae (plural) is simple? I think not.
Is this entire post own-faeces-smearing, tinfoil-hat-wearing, water-hoarding-in-case-the-bomb-drops style paranoia?
( , Wed 6 Aug 2008, 14:10, closed)
So I skipped to the end, to see if there was going to be a punch line. But all I found was this.
"the formulae is simple"
The formulae (plural) is simple? I think not.
Is this entire post own-faeces-smearing, tinfoil-hat-wearing, water-hoarding-in-case-the-bomb-drops style paranoia?
( , Wed 6 Aug 2008, 14:10, closed)
your mind
is quite a fearful place to be. would you like to buy some pedestal cleaner?
( , Wed 6 Aug 2008, 15:34, closed)
is quite a fearful place to be. would you like to buy some pedestal cleaner?
( , Wed 6 Aug 2008, 15:34, closed)
Goat
Where does England and the English monarchy fit in in your opinion?
Ever since Henry VIII we've faced attack after attack from the Vatican. Three major threats of invasion by Papists: Spanish Armarda, Napoleon and Hitler. The continual threat to and loss of our colonies due to Papist armies: North America, Ireland. The collapse of our Empire as a result of fighting the papist Hitler. Papist countries/organisations funding terrorism against us by the IRA. A papist Prime Minister who sent our troops to fight a crusade against Mohammedans thus putting us at further peril from Islamist terrorists.
Are you seriously suggesting that our Queen is partly behind this?
( , Wed 6 Aug 2008, 18:59, closed)
Where does England and the English monarchy fit in in your opinion?
Ever since Henry VIII we've faced attack after attack from the Vatican. Three major threats of invasion by Papists: Spanish Armarda, Napoleon and Hitler. The continual threat to and loss of our colonies due to Papist armies: North America, Ireland. The collapse of our Empire as a result of fighting the papist Hitler. Papist countries/organisations funding terrorism against us by the IRA. A papist Prime Minister who sent our troops to fight a crusade against Mohammedans thus putting us at further peril from Islamist terrorists.
Are you seriously suggesting that our Queen is partly behind this?
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Fair play
..but information overload for many people to whom this topic is new. As sensationalist as this guys post is, some basic points are factually correct.
For anybody interested but overwhelmed, or dismissing this as paranoid delusion I suggest reading www.cfoss.com/earth.html and the longer mises.org/money/2s1.asp for a gentler introduction to what exactly money is and how it works.
Back this up with your own research, eg typing "fractional reserve banking" and "fiat currency" into google/wikipedia, and reading books like "The Grip of Death".
Once better informed you are free to come to your own conclusions.
Money - it dictates pretty much every choice and action in your life, either directly or indirectly.
Yet most people know next to nothing about it.
Do yourself a favour and read up on the basics. Its actually rather shocking..
( , Wed 6 Aug 2008, 19:09, closed)
..but information overload for many people to whom this topic is new. As sensationalist as this guys post is, some basic points are factually correct.
For anybody interested but overwhelmed, or dismissing this as paranoid delusion I suggest reading www.cfoss.com/earth.html and the longer mises.org/money/2s1.asp for a gentler introduction to what exactly money is and how it works.
Back this up with your own research, eg typing "fractional reserve banking" and "fiat currency" into google/wikipedia, and reading books like "The Grip of Death".
Once better informed you are free to come to your own conclusions.
Money - it dictates pretty much every choice and action in your life, either directly or indirectly.
Yet most people know next to nothing about it.
Do yourself a favour and read up on the basics. Its actually rather shocking..
( , Wed 6 Aug 2008, 19:09, closed)
stopmeandslapme,
glad to see you're actually thinking about this, I’ll try to answer using quotations as I'll have very little credability if I can’t back the claims up...
first up a quote on the Jesuits before I answer your points and include more quotes at the end
“This war would never have been possible without the sinister influence of the Jesuits. We owe it to Popery that we now see our land reddened with the blood of her noblest sons.” Abraham Lincoln, 1865
“The Society of Jesus was formed by Ignatius Loyola about 1540, and was the mightiest agent used by the Church of Rome in checking the progress of the Protestant reformation. That order, though banished for its interference with civil government from almost every country in Europe, still exists and is one of the most powerful political agencies of our time . . . It camps in our country as the Turks do in Europe.” {9} Charles A. Blanchard, 1906 President, Wheaton College
Modern Secret Societies
“Only in Protestant, or at least non-Catholic countries like England, Holland and America has the Jesuit Order made unlimited progress.” {10} E. Boyd Barrett, 1927
Irish Ex-Jesuit The Jesuit Enigma
“It must be borne in mind that Rome, of all things, desiderates the ruin of heretic England, and endeavours, to the utmost of her power, to create troubles and difficulties to that free country . . . And this renders the Jesuits more dangerous than any other religious community. Indeed, I would rather see all the various species of those parasite animals called monks transplanted into the English soil than let one Jesuit live in it a single day; and it is not without good reason that we speak so in this Protestant country. The order of the Jesuits was purposely instituted to combat, to extinguish Protestantism…The extirpation of heresy is their principal occupation, the work which renders them meritorious in the eyes of Rome . . . Plots and machinations against Protestants, and against all civil and religious freedom, are the characteristics of the Jesuits . . . and if Protestant England does not soon awake to a sense of her danger, we fear she will repent, too late, of having fostered in her breast these poisonous vipers. Behold what is going on! . . . Behold the utmost uninterrupted state of rebellion in which the priests keep the fanatic Papists of Ireland, and be sure that such would not be the case if you had not Jesuits among them . . . I trust to be believed. I have been born and brought up among monks and Jesuits; and it is because I thoroughly know them, that, grateful for the hospitality afforded me, I warn England to beware of all monks, but especially of Jesuits. They are inauspicious birds, which cannot but infect with their venomous breath the pure and free air of Great Britain . . . ” G. B. Nicolini of Rome, 1854 Protestant Italian Patriot Exiled to England History of the Jesuits
Queen Elizabeth I, banished the Jesuit Order in 1579
they attempted to murder her several times. The Ridolfi Plot (1571), the Throgmarton Plot (1583) and the Babington Plot (1586)
Meanwhile, the Jesuits were in control of Spain. Philip II was the king through which they sought to destroy the Reformation in the Netherlands as well as in England.
with the military might of Philip, the Jesuits plotted the “extirpation” of Elizabeth I invading with the Armada financed by Rome for two million crowns
One of the most important plots in attempting to assassinate Queen Elizabeth miserably failed, having been exposed by England’s Lord Great Chamberlain, Edward de Vere, the Seventeenth Earl of Oxford. In his revealing of the Jesuit General’s Campion-Parsons Plot
James I became king; he too banished the Jesuits and commanded a hangman to publicly burn the evil doctrines of the Jesuit Francisco Suarez
In 1625 King James I died and his son Charles I came to the throne
But Charles unlike his father became a tool of the Jesuits through the direction of Anglican Archbishop William Laud
The attempt to make King Charles Stuart I an absolute Roman Catholic Monarch provoked the Puritan Revolution
after a law was passed forbidding any Roman Catholic from ever governing England again the English people finally put an end to the House of Stuart
however in 1773 King George III would reverse it
“Even in England, Jesuits were never so well treated, nor perhaps so prosperous, as during their legal suppression.” G. B. Nicolini of Rome, 1854 Protestant Italian Patriot Exiled to England History of the
The Company’s most important victories were both religious and political - The Jesuits deeply penetrated the Russian Orthodox Church and Germany’s Lutheran Church and Politically, they took control of the Crown and Bank of England
"The Order received more than support. It was given all it needed, to survive
and prosper, from George III. This wicked king also reestablished the English
branch of the Knights of Malta in 1782, it having been banished from the Empire for
over two hundred years. In 1795, Stonyhurst, one of England’s most beautiful landed
estates, was donated to the Company by an English lord, Thomas Weld. In exchange
for the King’s protection, the Jesuits have never overturned but rather protected the
British Crown, London having become the center of the world’s commerce."Prof Eric Phelps
Of the Jesuits’ Federal Reserve Bank financing Adolf Hitler we read: “Immense sums belonging to our national-bank depositors have been given to Germany on no collateral security whatever . . . Billions upon billions of our money has been pumped into Germany by the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve Banks . . . On April 27, 1932, the Federal Reserve outfit sent $750,000, belonging to American bank depositors, in gold to Germany. A week later, another $300,000 in gold was shipped to Germany in the same way. About the middle of May $12,000,000 in gold was shipped to Germany by the Federal Reserve banks. Almost every week there is a shipment of gold [stolen from Fort Knox, Kentucky] to Germany.”
the world in the future, with the Pontiff of Rome for Emperor . . . that’s
their ideal . . . It’s simple lust of power, of filthy earthly gain, of domination
– something like a universal serfdom with them as masters – that’s all they
stand for. They don’t even believe in God perhaps.”
Fyodor Dostoyevsky, 1880 Russian Novelist “The Grand Inquisitor” The Brothers Karamazov
“The sovereigns of the ‘Holy Alliance’ had massed large armies, and soon entered into a pledge to devote them to the suppression of all uprisings of the people in favor of free government; and he [Pius VII] desired to devote the Jesuits, supported by his pontifical power, to the accomplishment of that end. .” R. W. Thompson, 1894 Ex-Secretary, American Navy The Footprints of the Jesuits
“They were abolished by papal bull in 1773 at the demand of France, Spain, Portugal, Parma, Naples and Austria. They are, however, still to be found everywhere, and they hold considerable property in England. A modern writer justly calls them the ‘Black International.’ ” Lady Queenborough, 1933 English Historian
“Undoubtedly it is the intention of the Pope to possess this country . In this intention he is aided by the Jesuits, and all the Catholic prelates and priests. If the Catholic church becomes predominant here, Protestants will all be exterminated.” Orestes A. Brownson, 1852 Secret Jesuit American Journalist Brownson’s Quarterly Review
“The Jesuits exist in all Protestant countries . . . under other names . . . Take England for example, there they do not legally exist [since 1829]; nevertheless, they have not given up that country, and I assure you that they are more numerous in England than in Italy . . . There are Jesuits in Parliament, amongst the Anglican clergy, amongst the Bishops, and perhaps also in still higher circles [advisors of Queen Victoria] . . . ” Luigi Desanctis, 1852 Official Censor of the Inquisition Popery, Puseyism, and Jesuitism
“In spite of oceans and deserts, of hunger and pestilence, of spies and penal laws, of dungeons and racks, of giblets and quartering-blocks, Jesuits were to be found under every disguise, and in every country; scholars, physicians, merchants, serving men . . . to plot against the thrones and lives of apostate kings, to spread evil rumors, to raise tumults, to inflame civil wars, to arm the hand of the assassin . . . the right of rulers to misgovern the people [as outlined in Roman Catholic Niccolo Machiavelli’s The Prince], the right of every one of the people to plunge his knife in the heart of a bad ruler, were inculcated by the same man, according as he addressed himself to the subject of Philip or to the subject of Elizabeth . . . ” Lord Macaulay, 1848 English Historian Essays
“What is important is that a large sector of the public had gradually come to see, behind the Jesuits’ impressive front of world-wide influence a sinister design — a secret drive for power.” Ernest O. Hauser, 1959 American Journalist The Saturday Evening Post
“Whereas the progress of the papal policy, long actuated by the steady counsels of successive pontiffs, took deeper root, and was at length in some places with difficulty, in others never yet, extirpated. For this we might call to witness the black intrigues of the Jesuits . . . This plan of pontifical power was so deeply laid, and so indefatigably pursued by the unwearied politics of the court of Rome through a long succession of ages . . . it was polished and improved by the united endeavors of a body of men who engrossed all the learning of Europe for centuries together; it was firmly and resolutely executed by persons the best calculated for establishing tyranny and despotism, being fixed with a bigoted enthusiasm, . . . unconnected with their fellow-subjects and totally indifferent to what might befall that posterity to which they bore no endearing relation: yet it vanished into nothing when the eyes of the people were a little enlightened, and they set themselves with vigor to oppose it.” Sir William Blackstone, 1770 England’s Greatest Jurist Commentaries on the Laws of England
“They (the Jesuits) have so constantly mixed themselves up in court and state intrigues that they must, in justice, be reproached with striving after universal dominion. They cost kings their lives, not on the scaffold, but by assassination, and equally hurtful as the society of Illuminati; they were the foremost among the crowd, at all events, who applauded the murder scenes in Paris . . . They held in their hands all the springs for working upon mankind; money, protection . . . were plentifully at their command . . . and it is impossible, therefore to indulge in a conviction that the re-establishment of the Society of Jesus can be productive of any benefit whatever.” 1815
Archduchess of Austria
Archduke Maximilian Francis, Youngest son of Maria Theresa,
“Never before in the course of the world’s history had such a Society appeared. The old Roman Senate itself did not lay schemes for world domination with greater certainty of success.” Friedrich von Hardenberg, 1800 Alias “Novalis” Protestant German Philosopher
“Weishaupt and his fellow Jesuits cut off the income to the Vatican by launching and leading the French Revolution; by directing Napoleon’s conquest of Catholic Europe; [and] . . . by eventually having Napoleon throw Pope Pius VII in jail at Avignon until he agreed, as the price for his release, to reestablish the Jesuit Order. This Jesuit war on the Vatican was terminated by the Congress of Vienna and by the secret, 1822, Treaty of Verona.” Emanuel M. Josephson, 1968 American Physician & Historian
The “Federal” Reserve Conspiracy
and Rockefellers
“As I have observed, the Jesuits are a formidable engine of war, devised in the heat of the struggle of the sixteenth century, and used as a desperate resource, full of danger to those who employ it . . . ” M. J. Michelet, 1843 French University Professor Jesuits and Jesuitism
"The Jesuits not only financed Hitler, but Franz von Papen, who negotiated the Concordat between Pope Pius XII (formerly known as “the German Pope”) and Hitler, declared on January 14, 1934:
“The Third Reich is the first power which not only recognizes, but which puts into practice the high principles of the papacy.”
( , Thu 7 Aug 2008, 8:57, closed)
glad to see you're actually thinking about this, I’ll try to answer using quotations as I'll have very little credability if I can’t back the claims up...
first up a quote on the Jesuits before I answer your points and include more quotes at the end
“This war would never have been possible without the sinister influence of the Jesuits. We owe it to Popery that we now see our land reddened with the blood of her noblest sons.” Abraham Lincoln, 1865
“The Society of Jesus was formed by Ignatius Loyola about 1540, and was the mightiest agent used by the Church of Rome in checking the progress of the Protestant reformation. That order, though banished for its interference with civil government from almost every country in Europe, still exists and is one of the most powerful political agencies of our time . . . It camps in our country as the Turks do in Europe.” {9} Charles A. Blanchard, 1906 President, Wheaton College
Modern Secret Societies
“Only in Protestant, or at least non-Catholic countries like England, Holland and America has the Jesuit Order made unlimited progress.” {10} E. Boyd Barrett, 1927
Irish Ex-Jesuit The Jesuit Enigma
“It must be borne in mind that Rome, of all things, desiderates the ruin of heretic England, and endeavours, to the utmost of her power, to create troubles and difficulties to that free country . . . And this renders the Jesuits more dangerous than any other religious community. Indeed, I would rather see all the various species of those parasite animals called monks transplanted into the English soil than let one Jesuit live in it a single day; and it is not without good reason that we speak so in this Protestant country. The order of the Jesuits was purposely instituted to combat, to extinguish Protestantism…The extirpation of heresy is their principal occupation, the work which renders them meritorious in the eyes of Rome . . . Plots and machinations against Protestants, and against all civil and religious freedom, are the characteristics of the Jesuits . . . and if Protestant England does not soon awake to a sense of her danger, we fear she will repent, too late, of having fostered in her breast these poisonous vipers. Behold what is going on! . . . Behold the utmost uninterrupted state of rebellion in which the priests keep the fanatic Papists of Ireland, and be sure that such would not be the case if you had not Jesuits among them . . . I trust to be believed. I have been born and brought up among monks and Jesuits; and it is because I thoroughly know them, that, grateful for the hospitality afforded me, I warn England to beware of all monks, but especially of Jesuits. They are inauspicious birds, which cannot but infect with their venomous breath the pure and free air of Great Britain . . . ” G. B. Nicolini of Rome, 1854 Protestant Italian Patriot Exiled to England History of the Jesuits
Queen Elizabeth I, banished the Jesuit Order in 1579
they attempted to murder her several times. The Ridolfi Plot (1571), the Throgmarton Plot (1583) and the Babington Plot (1586)
Meanwhile, the Jesuits were in control of Spain. Philip II was the king through which they sought to destroy the Reformation in the Netherlands as well as in England.
with the military might of Philip, the Jesuits plotted the “extirpation” of Elizabeth I invading with the Armada financed by Rome for two million crowns
One of the most important plots in attempting to assassinate Queen Elizabeth miserably failed, having been exposed by England’s Lord Great Chamberlain, Edward de Vere, the Seventeenth Earl of Oxford. In his revealing of the Jesuit General’s Campion-Parsons Plot
James I became king; he too banished the Jesuits and commanded a hangman to publicly burn the evil doctrines of the Jesuit Francisco Suarez
In 1625 King James I died and his son Charles I came to the throne
But Charles unlike his father became a tool of the Jesuits through the direction of Anglican Archbishop William Laud
The attempt to make King Charles Stuart I an absolute Roman Catholic Monarch provoked the Puritan Revolution
after a law was passed forbidding any Roman Catholic from ever governing England again the English people finally put an end to the House of Stuart
however in 1773 King George III would reverse it
“Even in England, Jesuits were never so well treated, nor perhaps so prosperous, as during their legal suppression.” G. B. Nicolini of Rome, 1854 Protestant Italian Patriot Exiled to England History of the
The Company’s most important victories were both religious and political - The Jesuits deeply penetrated the Russian Orthodox Church and Germany’s Lutheran Church and Politically, they took control of the Crown and Bank of England
"The Order received more than support. It was given all it needed, to survive
and prosper, from George III. This wicked king also reestablished the English
branch of the Knights of Malta in 1782, it having been banished from the Empire for
over two hundred years. In 1795, Stonyhurst, one of England’s most beautiful landed
estates, was donated to the Company by an English lord, Thomas Weld. In exchange
for the King’s protection, the Jesuits have never overturned but rather protected the
British Crown, London having become the center of the world’s commerce."Prof Eric Phelps
Of the Jesuits’ Federal Reserve Bank financing Adolf Hitler we read: “Immense sums belonging to our national-bank depositors have been given to Germany on no collateral security whatever . . . Billions upon billions of our money has been pumped into Germany by the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve Banks . . . On April 27, 1932, the Federal Reserve outfit sent $750,000, belonging to American bank depositors, in gold to Germany. A week later, another $300,000 in gold was shipped to Germany in the same way. About the middle of May $12,000,000 in gold was shipped to Germany by the Federal Reserve banks. Almost every week there is a shipment of gold [stolen from Fort Knox, Kentucky] to Germany.”
the world in the future, with the Pontiff of Rome for Emperor . . . that’s
their ideal . . . It’s simple lust of power, of filthy earthly gain, of domination
– something like a universal serfdom with them as masters – that’s all they
stand for. They don’t even believe in God perhaps.”
Fyodor Dostoyevsky, 1880 Russian Novelist “The Grand Inquisitor” The Brothers Karamazov
“The sovereigns of the ‘Holy Alliance’ had massed large armies, and soon entered into a pledge to devote them to the suppression of all uprisings of the people in favor of free government; and he [Pius VII] desired to devote the Jesuits, supported by his pontifical power, to the accomplishment of that end. .” R. W. Thompson, 1894 Ex-Secretary, American Navy The Footprints of the Jesuits
“They were abolished by papal bull in 1773 at the demand of France, Spain, Portugal, Parma, Naples and Austria. They are, however, still to be found everywhere, and they hold considerable property in England. A modern writer justly calls them the ‘Black International.’ ” Lady Queenborough, 1933 English Historian
“Undoubtedly it is the intention of the Pope to possess this country . In this intention he is aided by the Jesuits, and all the Catholic prelates and priests. If the Catholic church becomes predominant here, Protestants will all be exterminated.” Orestes A. Brownson, 1852 Secret Jesuit American Journalist Brownson’s Quarterly Review
“The Jesuits exist in all Protestant countries . . . under other names . . . Take England for example, there they do not legally exist [since 1829]; nevertheless, they have not given up that country, and I assure you that they are more numerous in England than in Italy . . . There are Jesuits in Parliament, amongst the Anglican clergy, amongst the Bishops, and perhaps also in still higher circles [advisors of Queen Victoria] . . . ” Luigi Desanctis, 1852 Official Censor of the Inquisition Popery, Puseyism, and Jesuitism
“In spite of oceans and deserts, of hunger and pestilence, of spies and penal laws, of dungeons and racks, of giblets and quartering-blocks, Jesuits were to be found under every disguise, and in every country; scholars, physicians, merchants, serving men . . . to plot against the thrones and lives of apostate kings, to spread evil rumors, to raise tumults, to inflame civil wars, to arm the hand of the assassin . . . the right of rulers to misgovern the people [as outlined in Roman Catholic Niccolo Machiavelli’s The Prince], the right of every one of the people to plunge his knife in the heart of a bad ruler, were inculcated by the same man, according as he addressed himself to the subject of Philip or to the subject of Elizabeth . . . ” Lord Macaulay, 1848 English Historian Essays
“What is important is that a large sector of the public had gradually come to see, behind the Jesuits’ impressive front of world-wide influence a sinister design — a secret drive for power.” Ernest O. Hauser, 1959 American Journalist The Saturday Evening Post
“Whereas the progress of the papal policy, long actuated by the steady counsels of successive pontiffs, took deeper root, and was at length in some places with difficulty, in others never yet, extirpated. For this we might call to witness the black intrigues of the Jesuits . . . This plan of pontifical power was so deeply laid, and so indefatigably pursued by the unwearied politics of the court of Rome through a long succession of ages . . . it was polished and improved by the united endeavors of a body of men who engrossed all the learning of Europe for centuries together; it was firmly and resolutely executed by persons the best calculated for establishing tyranny and despotism, being fixed with a bigoted enthusiasm, . . . unconnected with their fellow-subjects and totally indifferent to what might befall that posterity to which they bore no endearing relation: yet it vanished into nothing when the eyes of the people were a little enlightened, and they set themselves with vigor to oppose it.” Sir William Blackstone, 1770 England’s Greatest Jurist Commentaries on the Laws of England
“They (the Jesuits) have so constantly mixed themselves up in court and state intrigues that they must, in justice, be reproached with striving after universal dominion. They cost kings their lives, not on the scaffold, but by assassination, and equally hurtful as the society of Illuminati; they were the foremost among the crowd, at all events, who applauded the murder scenes in Paris . . . They held in their hands all the springs for working upon mankind; money, protection . . . were plentifully at their command . . . and it is impossible, therefore to indulge in a conviction that the re-establishment of the Society of Jesus can be productive of any benefit whatever.” 1815
Archduchess of Austria
Archduke Maximilian Francis, Youngest son of Maria Theresa,
“Never before in the course of the world’s history had such a Society appeared. The old Roman Senate itself did not lay schemes for world domination with greater certainty of success.” Friedrich von Hardenberg, 1800 Alias “Novalis” Protestant German Philosopher
“Weishaupt and his fellow Jesuits cut off the income to the Vatican by launching and leading the French Revolution; by directing Napoleon’s conquest of Catholic Europe; [and] . . . by eventually having Napoleon throw Pope Pius VII in jail at Avignon until he agreed, as the price for his release, to reestablish the Jesuit Order. This Jesuit war on the Vatican was terminated by the Congress of Vienna and by the secret, 1822, Treaty of Verona.” Emanuel M. Josephson, 1968 American Physician & Historian
The “Federal” Reserve Conspiracy
and Rockefellers
“As I have observed, the Jesuits are a formidable engine of war, devised in the heat of the struggle of the sixteenth century, and used as a desperate resource, full of danger to those who employ it . . . ” M. J. Michelet, 1843 French University Professor Jesuits and Jesuitism
"The Jesuits not only financed Hitler, but Franz von Papen, who negotiated the Concordat between Pope Pius XII (formerly known as “the German Pope”) and Hitler, declared on January 14, 1934:
“The Third Reich is the first power which not only recognizes, but which puts into practice the high principles of the papacy.”
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