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May I interject for a moment?
I hate it when I do stupid things like forget to put oil in the car and it rattles like a demented washing machine with a brick in it and the chappie in the garage laughs at me : (
And it didn't even go in the garage for that problem. I was going to sort that out eventually.....like when the car blew up probably.
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girlinthehole, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 15:27,
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latest was 15 years ago)
Yeah
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PsychoChomp, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 15:28,
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Yeah
Aren't you going to laugh at me?
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girlinthehole, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 15:30,
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I don't think there's any danger of that.
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PsychoChomp, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 15:47,
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It's funny because you're not funny.
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PsychoChomp, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 15:51,
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You laughed at me once.
I remember.
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girlinthehole, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 15:56,
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Yeah.
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Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 15:37,
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that's a good way to spend thousands for no reason
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Lisette von Falcon, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 15:30,
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Sometimes I just want to stay in bed and never leave the house.
It's safer and cheaper that way.
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girlinthehole, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 15:32,
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I know the feeling.
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Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 15:33,
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I'm the sensible one of the family : /
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girlinthehole, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 15:34,
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Ah that is not the case for me.
I'm joint least sensible with my brother.
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Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 15:35,
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it's true, you also wouldn't need to worry about putting oil in your car then
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Lisette von Falcon, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 15:33,
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The car all right?
Haven't done anything stupid today, just something odd. I've slept through the whole day, except I don't remember falling asleep. I remember tidying my room at half ten and thinking about getting food, then just woke up curled up on a chair.
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Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 15:32,
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I think he fixed it in time : /
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girlinthehole, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 15:33,
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I wish I'd done that.
I'm not enjoying today.
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Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 15:34,
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today is shit
I think it should be stricken from the record
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Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 15:34,
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I hear ya.
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Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 15:36,
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How're your wedding plans coming along?
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Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 15:37,
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most stuff is sorted
don't know what people complain about. Organising a wedding is a piece of piss. And that's not because my mrs is doing everything.
I've got to make some invitations at some point and get my suit tailored next. Need to get in touch with the band and get them to learn a song or two as well.
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Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 15:38,
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Don't they know any songs?
What kind of a band are they?!! AHAHAHAHAHHA
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Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 15:45,
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to continue with your comical misunderstanding
a band that doesn't know any songs = a band like mine
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Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 15:45,
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That was always my problem with Electric Head Funk.
No actual songs at all, just psychedelic noodling based on a few staple riffs. It's amazing how we got away with it, to be honest.
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Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 15:47,
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that's an accepted way of performing though
we try and write songs and then our singer forgets them and plays them wrong and mashes them together and the rest of us have to try and keep up.
We've been doing it for 3 years or so, and I still don't believe anyone when they tell me that they think we are good and they like our music. I'm all "were you actually listening at all?"
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Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 15:50,
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It is amazing
how different it sounds being in a band/DJing/whatever from being in the audience. Even mixtapes I've done which I think are appalling are actually well-liked by the people who got copies. This reminds me I did a pretty good film soundtracks mix a few years ago...wonder where that is.
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Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 15:56,
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The other point is that 90% of people
don't listen to music from a musician's point of view - and with a live band there a several musicans playing so you can confuse people into not noticing your errors - this is harder with DJing.
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Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 16:00,
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+ especially when you've only got two records, both of which are the same song.
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Bazongaloid, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 16:02,
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Fucking right.
If you fuck up a beat juggle there's nowhere to hide. I am
a) choosing not to pour scorn on you for your pitiful ignorance of the sphere of technical DJing and
b) also pretending not to notice your dismal attempt at some form of mockery
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Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 16:11,
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the good thing with playing the guitar is that if you cock up
you can repeat the same mistake three times and then claim it is jazz
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Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 16:13,
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Hahahah so true
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Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 16:18,
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it's a tip I learned from Gordon Giltrap
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Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 16:19,
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Or claim you're just 'painting pictures with sound' (c) Althegeordie
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Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 16:18,
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Actually I saw a good band last night and they were playing "Rebel Rebel"
and obviously forgot to go into the chorus at one point, but within a bar everyone had realised and switched and none of the none musicians I was with noticed.
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Bazongaloid, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 16:03,
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you both raise some good points..
I think part of the problem is that I listen to quite different stuff to that which we play, so often think that our stuff is too simple.
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Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 16:08,
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Those 'none musicians' can be so stupid.
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Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 16:12,
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That's what's so shit
she called it off on account of the beard.
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Bazongaloid, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 15:38,
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She told me it was his hair,
but that opinions were divided about this.
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Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 15:40,
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Most people would have thought it was the hair
but she's not shallow. The issue is a practical one. The problem with the beard is that when he was going down on her, it was tickling her arsehole.
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Bazongaloid, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 15:42,
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He then ended up with a musky beard, which was most offputting at the dinner table.
That might not be true, but that's what she told me.
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Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 15:44,
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It would be like an anal pan scourer
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sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 15:46,
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I just heard that his thighs were too short
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Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 15:58,
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that is not a problem with which I suffer
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Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 16:11,
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I'd love to be able to afford a decent set of equipment
and a nice, flat garage to work in. I try to only go to garages for jobs that require lifting the car.
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Kroney, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 15:36,
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Hold up a moment, Rebbca Black _isn't_ that one from Glee? I thought that was the whole point, that the girl from glee has released a shit song.
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G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩€, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 15:37,
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Hang on!
I open up and admit to one of the simplest mistakes to make in basic car maintenance AND NO ONE IS TAKING THE PISS!
OH LORD! WHAT HAVE WE BECOME.
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girlinthehole, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 15:42,
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Get a BMW
They tell you when you need oil.
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sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 15:45,
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she has a BMW
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Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 15:46,
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THEN LEARN HOW TO READ THE SIGNS WOMAN
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sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 15:46,
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Is it noel's 12" one?
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G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩€, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 16:01,
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Has it shrunk in the wash?
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sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 16:08,
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hahaha
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JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 15:46,
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I have a BMW albeit an old one.
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girlinthehole, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 15:46,
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Silly women, stick to knitting and kittens, there's a good girl
You really shouldn't be in charge of a motorised vehicle without a man to supervise.
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Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 15:48,
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superwhat?
EDIT:
You ninja you!
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sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 15:49,
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too slow spelling narzi
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Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 15:50,
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lol
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sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 15:50,
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did you deliberately spell Nazi wrong?
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Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 15:52,
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Everyone knows it's spelt Nartzeee
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TGB checking Off Topic is still shit at, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 15:58,
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Nah, that's the game with the five dice.
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Bazongaloid, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 16:04,
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Kismet?
/googles
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sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 16:08,
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yahtzee
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Bazongaloid, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 16:09,
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I know
I was trying to be pedantic
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sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 16:30,
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Taxi, where the hell did that x come from? Taksi
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G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩€, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 17:24,
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Yes, I was aiming for the 1950's movie prnounciation
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Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 16:00,
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Sounds like Craig Revel Horwood to me
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sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 16:07,
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His name makes me think of Revels
and how they are advertised by implying that one sixth of every packet is a shit flavour.
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Bazongaloid, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 16:08,
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Yeah, this^
I like the coffee ones too
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sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 16:09,
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it's misleading though
because he is entirely shit
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Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 16:09,
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RAISINS WHY RAISINS
and also Malteasers. I like them, but they're not very special. Bring out packets of the coffee and orange ones, then it'll be ok to have malteasers.
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Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 16:12,
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don't be absurd
the orange ones are fucking gash
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Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 16:15,
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They are delicious and I love them
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Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 16:15,
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that is a symptom of your terrible terrible illness
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Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 16:16,
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Someone should put her down.
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Bazongaloid, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 16:17,
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Don't think anyone can lift me in the first place.
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Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 16:18,
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I'm from the countryside
I'm qualified to do that sort of thing.
Do you want the loving pet gassing, the knackered racehorse shotgun, or the run-over badger hit-with-a-shovel?
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Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 16:19,
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I think you should use the advantages conferred by your ample sized thighs
to bugger her to death. It's what she would have wanted.
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Bazongaloid, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 16:21,
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It's 'Marmite' style reverse psychology.
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Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 16:14,
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Right I'm off to punish myself at the gym.
I shall get the gym assistant to hit me with a big stick while I run backwards on the treadmill.
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girlinthehole, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 15:54,
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but you'll enjoy that :(
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Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 15:58,
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She does love a bit of a spanking.
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Bazongaloid, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 16:05,
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*sigh*
sp w
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sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 16:07,
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spanker
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thealternativefact, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 16:07,
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wortscow?
/confused by strikethroughs
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The Light in Chains don't touch the Pope's boner, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 16:10,
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My lecturer diagnosed me with either tubercolosis or syphillis
and told me to go to the doctor if I started coughing up blood. I told him it'd already happened and he said something along the lines of "If you were a badger I'd shoot you"
EDIT: Rest assured I'm seeing the nurse tomorrow and I've coughed up blood before, it's no big deal.
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Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 16:11,
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I'm feeling bad for laughing
but that is quite funny. Have you booked an appointment yet?
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Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 16:13,
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Went as soon as everything had ended, will go to the sit-and-wait clinic tomorrow
I'm not worried. It'll go away.
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Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 16:16,
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If you were Badger, I'd shoot you.
Oh wait, A badger.
As you were, lung-mong.
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thealternativefact, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 16:13,
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You said shoot
but I'm pretty sure you meant Smooch.
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Bazongaloid, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 16:14,
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Oh get your hands out of your pants.
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thealternativefact, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 16:14,
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But it's so warm and snuggly in there.
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Bazongaloid, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 16:18,
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-salutes-
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Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 16:17,
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It's a fair comment
go to the Doctor you silly moose.
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Bazongaloid, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 16:13,
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This silly thing has interfered with three nights out now. Not happy.
I NEVER go out!
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Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 16:17,
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This is your father speaking.
Go to the fucking doctor you oaf.
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Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 16:17,
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If you're her father, she's going to need a lot more than just her lungs fixed.
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thealternativefact, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 16:18,
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Innit blud. Ya get me?
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Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 16:21,
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Hammer Time
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thealternativefact, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 16:23,
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Sutcliffelolz.
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Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 16:24,
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I am a badger
and I'd shoot you.
Out of interest, how is your lecturer qualified to diagnose either of those things? is he accidentally stuck in 1823?
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the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 17:00,
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He was joking.
He also threatens to shoot the construction workers and complains it's a pity he can't throw things at students any more.
Hang on, I hope he's joking.
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Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 17:01,
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Haha
no-one's thrown anything at me at university, but I had several teachers at school who were very handy with the board rubber chucking
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Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 17:02,
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I just stick to sarcasm
it's remarkable how many students don't even get that. I can't really go back to throwing boardrubbers, they've taken away chalkboards from all my lecture theatres. dry markers are rubbish for throwing.
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the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 17:06,
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They have fairly wildly differing symptoms
with the only thing in common being they were almost entirely iradicated in the western world years ago. So I hope so, too.
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the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 17:05,
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Classics, they know everything medical
Julius Caesar has epilepsy donchaknow
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Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 17:01,
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What, still?
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Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 17:05,
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My mind lives in the 1st century BC
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Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 17:06,
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As does mine.
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Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 17:07,
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With the obvious provisios of birth and gender
I'd have been at home back then
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Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 17:08,
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I've never felt at home in the present day.
I don't like it here one fucking bit.
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Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 17:11,
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not many MDs in Ancient Rome though
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Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 17:14,
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You are joking, surely?
I'm sure their trade network would have provided all sorts of goodies.
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Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 17:16,
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Nope
there's little indication of heavy usage amongst the senatorial class.
Edit: to clarify there is evidence for some drugs in Ancient Rome, but surprisingly little, and most of it was is very heavy conjecture
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Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 17:17,
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Wrong period and country altogether I know,
but did I imagine that it's thought the Delphic oracle was somehow intoxicated by bay leaves?
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Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 17:18,
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No Hawkwind in Republican OR Imperial Rome, either!
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Kroney, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 17:19,
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Oh man can I change my mind?
Ideally I'd have turned 16 in 1965, I think. That would be about bang on for me.
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Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 17:21,
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Nope, sorry, you're stuck now. Rome it is.
Have fun listening to all those lutes, loser.
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Kroney, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 17:24,
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I'm fascinated as to what Nero's 'water organ' was all about.
EDIT wikipedia shows no link between Nero and the Hydraulis. I'm making that up, it seems.
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Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 17:27,
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and I'm sure he'd have been happy to show you
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Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 17:29,
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Nope there's a mention of that
just as there is evidence for some cannabis usage in Rome. However it seems to have been a 'lower class' thing to do. Generally they stuck to large quantities of wine.
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Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 17:23,
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I could probably cope with that.
And just get opium and hash off my slaves when the dinner parties finished.
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Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 17:24,
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And magic mushrooms from the Celts.
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Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 17:27,
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this is true
so you'd have been fine. No smoking the stuff though
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Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 17:29,
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Surely opium use was widespread in Egypt and the east, coming back to Rome with the likes of Lucullus, Sulla and Pompeius, as part of the decadent ways of the East
Not to mention the Druids usage of magic mushrooms which would no doubt have made it to the recreational market
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Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 17:29,
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I think Druidic mushroom usage is assumed/suspected
but as someone whose dissertation was on pre-Roman British religion I can say with some certainty thet there is no written or archaeological evidence. Our entire knowledge of Druidic religion comes from a few lines of text only - most of them by Julius Caesar in his 'Britannia'. This makes a mockery of so-called modern day Druids whose entire 'religion' dates back no further than the mid-C19th.
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Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 17:33,
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You're not telling me that cunt King Arthur and his fellow Stonehenge 'druids' is a bullshitting makeup artist, well I never
Perhaps he should go back to drinking special brew down Holloway Road. I believe the Romans took particular umbrage with the Celts practice of human sacrifice, which is a bit odd considering their own savage practices. Tarpeian Rock anyone...
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Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 17:41,
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Quite so.
They were hypocrites of the first water on many levels.
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Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 17:45,
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I have no clue about the magic mushrooms
but I suspect it was highly unlikely in the period that I'm talking about when Britain wasn't part of the Roman Empire.
Similarly Egyptian history isn't my strong point except as how it tangentially relates to Rome and Greece, but there is little concrete evidence for widespread consumption, and a lot of assumptions tend to be made about it.
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Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 17:37,
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I saw a peculiar documentary once
where they claimed to have found cocaine traces in Egyptian mummies - suggesting either that there was trade with America 1000 years and more before even the Viking forays into that continent - or that coca grew outside of America and we don't know about it.
I would say the second one would be more likely - or a third option, the 'evidence' is wrong or contaminated, would be even more likely.
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Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 17:44,
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I saw that as well, they also bunged in Tobacco for good measure *mystery*
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Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 17:46,
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WooooOOOooOOOOOooooOOOoo
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Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 17:48,
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I remember that
the tobacco traces were quite interesting. I do suspect it's contamination though
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Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 17:49,
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No other explanation makes any sense, I am sad to say.
There'd have been other evidence of trade than just some grains of bugle and some baccy leaves.
I point the finger at rich American students working in Egypt.
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Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 17:52,
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No Lambert & Butler for Pharaoh :((
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Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 17:55,
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no charlie for Cleopatra
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Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 17:56,
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No tripping for Ptolemy.
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Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 18:03,
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The Romans would have had contact with the Celts since year dot, see the Celts of Northern Italy, Transalpine, Cisalpine Gaul, the Iberian peninsula and so on
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Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 17:48,
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BMWs don't need oil
it's an optional extra, like bulbs in all the indicators.
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the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 17:01,
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Evening all!
I'm off for a curry in a minute at which I shall be finding out about going to Africa - woohoo!
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Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Mon 28 Mar 2011, 17:53,
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