I've totally been out of the loop this weekend
what is the rioting about? I've only heard a bit about it.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:10, 2 replies, latest was 15 years ago)

Some 'entirely innocent' criminal was shot dead by the police.
The locals up there love a riot and thus immediately had one. I love the way the the fact that the 'victim' was a father of four is regarded as in some way relevant. Yes, because a man who has had sex several times must clearly not be fucking crook, eh?
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:12, Reply)

ah, that was the cause, not something that happened during.
I know what you mean about the irrelevant comment, that sort of shit happens all the time.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:14, Reply)

I thought it was particularly nice that they not only looted businesses and shops
but peoples homes.
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:15, Reply)

They're outraged about the perversion of justice by the EVIL POLICE, YEAH?

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:17, Reply)

You're right, killing someone could well be considered a bit of a perversion of justice.

(Bazongaloid, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:19, Reply)

No it is no excuse to destroy local people's businesses and homes

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:21, Reply)

I didn't say it was.
In fact I said the complete opposite.
(Bazongaloid, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:22, Reply)

Well that's ok then
With regards to whether the shot guy was scum or not I guess will come out in time. Personally I think if he was carrying a gun then he should expect to get shot at.
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:25, Reply)

There's a charming picture of him in circulation
dripping with LEGITIMATELY EARNED thousands of pounds' worth of gold jewellery, making a pistol gesture. BUT HE HAD FOUR KIDS.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:33, Reply)

It would be funny if you died

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Actually, I can't be bothered to make the point I was going to make, I'll just leave it at that.
(Bazongaloid, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:34, Reply)

I would be only marginally distressed were this to happen.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:36, Reply)

Unless they were armed and waving a gun about.
Which I'll bet this fellow was. In which case unlucky, you got shot.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:21, Reply)

didn't he have a "street name"
starrish, or something? anyone who has a "street name" is generally up to no good, surely!
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:39, Reply)

if the police had just let them get on with it none of this would have happened

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:20, Reply)

the poor bastard whose post office/livelihood has been torched said
"they've just burned down the place where they collect their benefits cheques. they have literally bitten the hand that feeds them."

how is it helping the memory of anyone, however they died, to rob and loot shops like comet and pc world and burn down a carpetright? oh look, the police walk on carpets and have televisions, let's smash them then, and forget the fact that the people who work in those shops have some of the few jobs that are actually going in this neighbourhood, or that people live in flats above the shops and might die...
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:32, Reply)

Since you appear not to know that answer to the question you posed,
the answer is that it doesn't. The looting is just opportunistic criminality by a bunch of scummers.
(Bazongaloid, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:40, Reply)

Definition for rhetorical question:
"a statement that is formulated as a question but that is not supposed to be answered"
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:41, Reply)

It's also a tool used by The Daily Mail to imply things that anyone with a brain knows aren't true
but that stupid people assume must be true because it's in the paper.
(Bazongaloid, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:44, Reply)

A man got shot by the police.
The story they put out straight away was that he was shooting at the Rozzers and got his comeupance.

But initial ballastics tests appear to indicate that the bullet that hit the policemans radio was actually fired by another policeman.

How do you spell Jean Charles de Menezes?
(Bazongaloid, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:14, Reply)

Oh please.
I've read 'yes he had a gun on him but it was in his sock OK so RIOOOOTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!'
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:15, Reply)

The looting was just criminality
but once again it appears that you cannot trust a word that the police say in these incidents.
(Bazongaloid, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:17, Reply)

unfortunately the police are just people
which means that they are, on the whole, thick, belligerent, lying shitbags.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:19, Reply)

this is a good point
and you don't exactly get paid a lot for being a policeman, however valuable and important that job is.

the metro this morning ran an article on other riots in the area, they had a picture of the poor bastard policeman who got hacked to death by machetes on an estate in tottenham. that's fucking inhumane. who even carries a machete on an estate in london? what the fuck do you need to scythe out of the way!?
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:37, Reply)

Poor people

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:40, Reply)

but aren't they the ones carrying the machetes?

( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:42, Reply)

It's the circle of knife

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:43, Reply)

This deserves a click

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 11:15, Reply)

You do realise that incident happen around 20 years ago?

(Bazongaloid, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:43, Reply)

yes, al. i can read. i could read the article. it was pointing out all the incidents. that was one of them.
why the fuck does that make it any less horrifying? if your missus got hacked up by a machete by a baying mob of people, would you be OK about it in 2031?

somehow i think not.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:47, Reply)

I would definitely hold a grudge against all black people for the rest of my natural life.
It's the only sane and rational way to behave.
(Bazongaloid, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:48, Reply)

are they the ones with funny names that they keep changing?
i had to laugh at that, last week. i was having exactly the same problem with some upperclass rahs who have all fallen out with each other. one minute it's "sir mimsy-porpington-doo-dah" and the next minute it's "miffy".

seriously. why can't people just be fucking consistent.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:51, Reply)

Maybe the policeman who reported it had no idea that it potentially was a bullet that another policeman fired, and he was only reporting what he knew at that time to be the truth?

(Poppet some assembly required., Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:19, Reply)

Yes, you're right
it could just be a completely innocent mistake on behalf of the police. Much like when they said that protesters had hurled bricks and bottles at them when they tried to save Ian Tomlinsons life.
(Bazongaloid, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:20, Reply)

Don't get grouchy at me, I'm only offering a different point of view mate.
We have only heard a few reports about the riots here. It made the news on sunday and that was it.
(Poppet some assembly required., Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:23, Reply)

That doesn't mean they are lying now...
my personal experience of the police has never been anything but excellent, this goes for people I know who have called on their help as well. i therefore judge by these experiences rather than those that have been filtered through the press.
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:34, Reply)

This.
I had nothing but excellent experiences with your police - certainly they were much better than the Aussie police are!
(Poppet some assembly required., Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:40, Reply)

I am very much witholding judgement for now, personally.
It's very hard to get the OK for the police to shoot someone - particularly since the tragic demise of our Newsagent of Hearts, John Menzies.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:19, Reply)

Yes Monty, you withold that judgement. That's what you do best.
I'm back from holiday by the way, feel free to ask how I am.
(Bazongaloid, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:22, Reply)

where did you go?
and how was it?
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:22, Reply)

I went to France
it was very nice. I bought a new bike.
(Bazongaloid, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:23, Reply)

whereabouts in France?
I got a van. No one else here cares.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:24, Reply)

OMG YOU GOT A VAN!!!!!
What kind of van did you get? What colour is it? Have you driven it far yet?
(Bazongaloid, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:26, Reply)

Have you fucked your mrs in the back yet?

(Bazongaloid, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:26, Reply)

a VW T5, it's white with stupid big alloys
I drove it back from Wales

and no, because I haven't found a discarded mattress to jam in the back yet.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:27, Reply)

Buy an air bed from Tesco
Or just put a blanket down.
(Bazongaloid, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:28, Reply)

we've got an airbed
I've planned the bed I'm going to build in the back. need to draw it up to make sure it'll work, then buy the wood and make it.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:29, Reply)

make sure you hammer the nails in properly
and sand it well.

could be the end of the airbed otherwise...

/limit of my DIY tips.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:52, Reply)

good tips
we're probably going to get a couple of pieces of memory foam to use as a mattress, or seat cushions when it is in seat mode.

My other half has just sent me a CAD drawing she has done of the bed mechanism we have designed. She's awesome.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:57, Reply)

Did you have a good time in France?

( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:39, Reply)

I had a lovely time in france thank you.
How are you?
(Bazongaloid, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:42, Reply)

Okay thanks
still jobless but cheerful enough. I am still in possession of your jumper by the way, sorry about that.
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:46, Reply)

Oh, you can keep that, or throw it away if you don't like it.
I think it may have paint on it, so don't feel the need to keep it, unless you particularly like it.
(Bazongaloid, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:48, Reply)

It's quite nice actually
and stripey so I'll keep hold of it. Thank you!
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:49, Reply)

How the devil are you?
Has the AIDS cleared up yet?
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:22, Reply)

Yeah, I'm just a bit sniffly now.

(Bazongaloid, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:23, Reply)

Cool.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:24, Reply)

How gay is your new french bike?
Does it come with a basket full of onions, garlic and white flags?

/clarkson
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:36, Reply)

Yeah, all of the above.
It is about 50% less gay than my bike in the UK (based on cost) but very enjoyable to ride. It needs a shorter stem as the frame is slightly longer than my other bike so my hands go numb when I'm riding on the hoods.
(Bazongaloid, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:38, Reply)

What was wrong with the old bike?

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:38, Reply)

it was a bike
you just answered your own question
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:40, Reply)

Have you been racially abused by any more people for not knowing how to drive your sports car?

(Bazongaloid, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:42, Reply)

pffft
i'm an excellent driver. he actually hit the car he squeezed up next to, rather than reverse just about 5 metres to an EMPTY SPACE. i think he was on something, to overreact like that.

with a bit of luck he'll meet you on your bike, do us all a favour.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:48, Reply)

Nothing at all
but the bike I have in the UK is in my shed, and therefore it's very difficult to use while I'm in the south of France. But the new bike I bought will live at my In-Laws house in france so when I'm out there on Holiday I can ride it.
(Bazongaloid, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:41, Reply)

This infomation clarifies the situation nicely
i love the South of France, where-abouts are your inlaws?
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:46, Reply)

Near the town of Cahors
Which is about 60Km north of Toulouse.
(Bazongaloid, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:47, Reply)

Any good sausages?

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:54, Reply)

Loads
I had ones with Cheese, Nuts, Wild Boar, Donkey and Herbs (not all at once).

I love dried sausage.
(Bazongaloid, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:55, Reply)

dried wild boar sausage is fucking glorious
I got wild boar chorizo from greenwich market a while ago. outstanding
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:58, Reply)

now you've made me crave cheese
fucking french and their tasty tasty cheeses
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:38, Reply)

+nob

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:39, Reply)

Anyone who says that he's 'bein followed by the feds' deserves to get shot in the face

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:38, Reply)

or the balls
wouldn't kill him, but would stop him having another 4 children because he can't seem to work out how to use a condom?
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:40, Reply)

Look man dem, he needs JUSTICE
A formal investigation should be expedited in this instance as JUSTICE BE DONE
( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:42, Reply)

Just smash a bit more stuff in memory of him
it's what he would have wanted
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:47, Reply)

Probably was ironically

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:48, Reply)

and steal it too
don't forget that. he would have WANTED you to have a 3D TV in his name.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 10:49, Reply)

Fucking hell who wouldn't want 100 million worth of damage caused to an already deprived area
*Gun Salute*
( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 11:02, Reply)

When I die
I want my family and friends to ransack Harrods in memory of me
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 11:03, Reply)

If people trashed Enfield Town or Tottenham Hale in my memory I'd be well gutted

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 11:06, Reply)

bella was prob there

( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 8 Aug 2011, 11:20, Reply)