So, should we be in or out of the EU?

(Bazongaloid, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:01, 110 replies, latest was 12 years ago)

Yes.

( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:03, Reply)

It doesn't seem like anybody really knows. Both sides have arguments
that sound convincing to my limited knowledge.

So I'm going to say out, purely on the basis that I think we ought to build up closer trading ties with the commonwealth, rather than cosying up to a bunch of damned Frogs.
( Kroney, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:04, Reply)

But you belong with your people Frenchy!

(Poppet some assembly required., Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:11, Reply)

REBUILD THE EMPIRE VIA THE BACK DOOR
*salutes the flag*
( Kroney, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:13, Reply)

I KNEW IT.
I knew you were into anal.
(Poppet some assembly required., Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:15, Reply)

That's no moon

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:18, Reply)

well technically..

(Poppet some assembly required., Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:19, Reply)

we should keep some bits and get rid of others

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:04, Reply)

In, but I think we should have a referrendum.
In fact I think Labour should match the promise to have one by 2017.
(PsychoChomp, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:04, Reply)

referendums are stupid, because people are stupid

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:08, Reply)

*Referenda

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:10, Reply)

referendums is the preferred pluralisation
As the Latin word has no plural as it is a gerundive, like 'addendum'.

According to one source anyway. The Guardian's house style guide is also on the side of 'referendums'.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:36, Reply)

Both are acceptable.
I was merely making a poor joke because he said people are stupid.
Also I'm the kind of wanker who likes to refer to stadiums as stadia.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:38, Reply)

I like to refer to more than one haggis as 'haggises'
When it comes to plural forms I am very much a traditionalist.

And yes, both are acceptable, but one is preferred. You know, like bisexuals in theory like both genders, but they always prefer one over the other. Am I right? Fuck knows, I haven't had sex with guys since the nineties.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:45, Reply)

Latest polls show more people want in than out.

(PsychoChomp, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:12, Reply)

Really?
That's interesting.
I assumed it would be the other way around.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:14, Reply)

It has been for years.
But Camerons speech being built up and built up for a month probably pissed some people off.
(PsychoChomp, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:16, Reply)

I always asssumed that the reason no one wants to hold a referendum is that the British public couldn't be trusted to make the right decision.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:08, Reply)

That's not a legitimate argument I think.
You have to trust the people a little.
(PsychoChomp, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:12, Reply)

have the referendum, but ensure it's not binding

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:13, Reply)

Oh yeah sure, but I don't think any of them really do.
I mean, do you?
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:13, Reply)

I don't.
The mob are fucking morons.
( Kroney, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:14, Reply)

ITV didn't even trust them to make the correct decision voting on a singing contest.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:17, Reply)

Yeah I do.
I think it's arguable that Referenda are better than elections because you can ignore the problems about locations and swings and shit.
(PsychoChomp, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:17, Reply)

I guess it depends how well it is run as well.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:20, Reply)

And how well funded each side is.
I think they should have a fixed budget for both sides of the debate.
(PsychoChomp, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:21, Reply)

There are arguments both for and against
certain things I agree with, however having Brussels letting deranged Islamic extremists stay in this country pisses me off.
For this reason I say we should get the fuck out.
( hartley hare Just some prick who thinks it doesn't apply to him, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:07, Reply)

You've obviously got a clear understanding here.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:11, Reply)

To many loop holes to be exploited Tangles

( hartley hare Just some prick who thinks it doesn't apply to him, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:15, Reply)

There's no real loop hole.
It's "you can't try someone or send someone to be tried on evidence which you get through torture"
The british government has spent years saying "ohhh goooo on, they'll promise not to"
(PsychoChomp, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:18, Reply)

Or you’re a nasty piece of work that we know is involved with terrorism.
Rather than fuck about in a long legal battle that the tax payer will foot the bill for, we will just extradite you back to your own country.
And don't go crying to the Europe appeals court we don't recognise them
( hartley hare Just some prick who thinks it doesn't apply to him, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:32, Reply)

www.b3ta.com/questions/offtopic/post1839198
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:33, Reply)

We don't "know" he's involved in terrorism enough to charge him with an offense in the UK.

(PsychoChomp, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:33, Reply)

Knowing and proving are two different things

( hartley hare Just some prick who thinks it doesn't apply to him, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:34, Reply)

Oh shut up.
Your basic argument is, "I know better than some of the most qualified judges in the world, they must be wrong." Which is bollocks.
(PsychoChomp, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:46, Reply)

Or why spend loads of tax payers money delaying the obvious

( hartley hare Just some prick who thinks it doesn't apply to him, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:47, Reply)

Are you mixing up the EU with the Court of human rights?

( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:28, Reply)

Probably
( hartley hare Just some prick who thinks it doesn't apply to him, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:50, Reply)

I think we should be in.
I'm not sure what we'd gain by leaving.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:09, Reply)

agreeing completely here

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:15, Reply)

in

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:09, Reply)

out

( hartley hare Just some prick who thinks it doesn't apply to him, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:10, Reply)

*shakes about*

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:10, Reply)

shake it all about

( hartley hare Just some prick who thinks it doesn't apply to him, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:10, Reply)

Working on one of my basic principles of:
If it is something the Daily Mail want then it is probably evil, we should stay in the EU.
(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:12, Reply)

I reckon we should start our own, and make them all join us
we could tempt them with a free sandwich buffet at the first meeting
( glued eel /questions/questionsyoudliketoask/post1648081, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:12, Reply)

What sort of sandwiches?

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:15, Reply)

BEEF and English Mustard

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:19, Reply)

Like this?
www.quorn.co.uk/products/64/peppered-beef-style-slices
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:21, Reply)

I miss quorn.
we don't have it here, and it's a great substitute.
(Poppet some assembly required., Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:31, Reply)

We could call it "The British Empire"

( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:24, Reply)

Yeah, but you'd need more than £5k for catering

(Captain Placid 24/7 ball gags, brownie mix and clown porn, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:27, Reply)

Your country needs you
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2266887/UK-snow-Environment-Agency-urges-homeowners-pile-ice-prevent-flooding-delaying-thaw.html
(PsychoChomp, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:27, Reply)

Didn't we already have a referendum to decide this back in 1975?

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:30, Reply)

Things have changed since then.

(PsychoChomp, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:30, Reply)

We've had a hand in those changes though.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:34, Reply)

I'm a firm adherent of representative democracy
So I don't particularly care for referendums. And the general public are idiots prone to voting emotively rather than on the basis of fact.

Having said that, I do agree with having referendums on Scottish independence and on UK EU membership. Just there needs to be a thorough educational campaign administered by an independent third party.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:41, Reply)

I'll be honest Al,
i've not really looked in to it a whole lot. I sit in a little bubble when it comes to politics these days, it has become so convoluted and difficult to actually figure out which one party is doing what any given week, and what they promise, or didn't promise, or promised not to do. It's not an accessible subject, and i'm starting to wonder if that is done on purpose to keep the majority in the dark, and a little nervous, so that shit can be done in my name that i'm not entirely sure i want doing, but nobody will explain it to me, and i'm failry sure half of them would be happier if i never figured it out and just went away.

But i'm also very hungover, so this probably makes no sense, but i can't be arsed to go back and read it.
( Windy Pig I'm naturally quite suspicious about the moon., Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:42, Reply)

Good quiz then WP

( hartley hare Just some prick who thinks it doesn't apply to him, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:43, Reply)

yeah, was about 10 teams.
We do a prize for best team name, and e everyone tries to come up with stupid puns or limericks or that sort of dull shite, but last night one team decided to go against trends and just called themselves "The Fuck Pigs"
I gave them the prize for best name.
( Windy Pig I'm naturally quite suspicious about the moon., Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:47, Reply)

And did they?

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:51, Reply)

Charlkie Brooker lols

( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:54, Reply)

I might start a career in politics.
I bet loads of people would vote for me. I'd be like the new John Prescott, except probably a tory.
( Kroney, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:43, Reply)

You could actually say "I did not have sexual relations with that woman"
With a completely straight face
( hartley hare Just some prick who thinks it doesn't apply to him, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:46, Reply)

I'd be the perfect politician
I'm *always* lying about the amount of sex I have.
( Kroney, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:47, Reply)

You said you have it 3 times a day...................
Ohhhhhhh wait I get it
( hartley hare Just some prick who thinks it doesn't apply to him, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:49, Reply)

I'm out of fags, I haven't brought my wallet.
Check the news tonight to see if anyone's died.
(PsychoChomp, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:50, Reply)

Nip down the front of the hospital where all the patients stand smoking, holding on to their drip.
Nick their fags. Run away.
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:53, Reply)

I don't work in a hospital b3th.
You're not only the worst mod ever, you're the worst stalker as well.
(PsychoChomp, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:58, Reply)

You see 'NHS', you think 'hospital'...
Who the hell have I been stalking, then?
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Wed 23 Jan 2013, 13:02, Reply)

I don't think I've ever left the house without my wallet before. Except to take the bins out.
Mostly so I don't end up in your situation.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 13:19, Reply)

I was running late for work.
And I was paying bills last night, so it's stuck next to my keyboard :(
(PsychoChomp, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 13:20, Reply)

We should be in
Because it's either the Euro, the Dollar or the Remninimbinimbi, Remninbiminib, Reminibmi, that Chinese one
( Theoban What of it, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:52, Reply)

The Yuan?

( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:52, Reply)

Yuan mum?

( Theoban What of it, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:53, Reply)

Yuan whose army?

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:54, Reply)

Yuan me, against the world, kid

( Theoban What of it, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:55, Reply)

I'll need to hold a referendum to establish whether or not I want this to continue.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:59, Reply)

NO YUAN ARE

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 14:35, Reply)

In, with the understanding that none of the other kids like us.
The alternative being that we lose our big powerful friend, and then *no one* will like us.

Basically, Cameron (if it's still up to him by then) will do whatever the US tells him.

I think the Euro will eventually be chalked up to a noble but impractical experiment. Like socialism.
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:52, Reply)

We should stay in
Otherwise Chompy won't get to be a MEP.
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:56, Reply)

fucking shove a railroad spike up your dick

(quintsy, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:58, Reply)

Alright Q,
hows it going?
( Windy Pig I'm naturally quite suspicious about the moon., Wed 23 Jan 2013, 13:07, Reply)

FUCK OFF SNOW
licky boomboom down
( Kroney, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:58, Reply)

All the snow is melting here.

(PsychoChomp, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 13:05, Reply)

Just had some more flurries.
It's fucking following me around.
( Kroney, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 13:21, Reply)

I love the fact now that the _only_ reason to join UKIP is because you're too ashamed to vote BNP.
The Cons have taken away the single issue away from UKIP that wasn't race-related.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 13:16, Reply)

well,
we seem to have come to a consensus, so, who is going to start the next thread?
( Windy Pig I'm naturally quite suspicious about the moon., Wed 23 Jan 2013, 13:18, Reply)

You are

( hartley hare Just some prick who thinks it doesn't apply to him, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 13:21, Reply)

i would,
but the internet in the pub is being fucking shit today. Although, i'm going to blame it on the 2 chinese girls in the corner on their laptops, probably downloading tentacle porn or looking at sushi or something.
( Windy Pig I'm naturally quite suspicious about the moon., Wed 23 Jan 2013, 13:23, Reply)

If it helps I went for a wee while this thread was going on

( Theoban What of it, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 13:24, Reply)

i really does help,
thanks theo. Theonks.
( Windy Pig I'm naturally quite suspicious about the moon., Wed 23 Jan 2013, 13:30, Reply)

fuck, not another person has opened their laptop,
its like i'm running a fucking internet cafe. I'd rather have sex pest jerry in here, at least he buys a fucking drink more than once every 2 hours.
( Windy Pig I'm naturally quite suspicious about the moon., Wed 23 Jan 2013, 13:25, Reply)

Switch off the wifi.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 13:27, Reply)

i really might.
also, i didn't realise quite how much of a foul mood i'm in.
( Windy Pig I'm naturally quite suspicious about the moon., Wed 23 Jan 2013, 13:29, Reply)