NO RELATIONSHIP/ONE NIGHT STAND/DISGRUNTLED EX CHAT.
Did you read about the block of flats in Benidorm that, due to a design cock up, have no lifts from floor 20 to 47? Lazy Spanish cunts. Why are the British superior in every way to our EU cousins (except the Germans)?

Alt: I think the Hundurans have it right, workers in nappies for maximum productivity. Are you a trade unionist?
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 11:46, 189 replies, latest was 12 years ago)

I like the idea of Unions.
The reality is that people are people and will always use whatever power they have for selfish reasons, the Government, the unions, everyone.
( Kroney, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 11:48, Reply)

If I was in a union I would choose the RMT.
Viva Bob Crowe!

Are you with me?

Everybody out.
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 11:50, Reply)

^ What Mary said ^
The only thing worse than a selfish prick is someone who tries to tell you they're not a selfish prick because it's in the interests of "The Greater Good".
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 11:50, Reply)

Collective pay bargaining is where it's at.

(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 11:51, Reply)

Backstabbing, lying, cheating and manipulating is where it's at.
ACTUALLY.
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 11:59, Reply)

in a shock development
agreeing with Kroney, here.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 11:56, Reply)

well if there is one thing the french are good at its striking

(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:11, Reply)

I like the idea of Unicorns

( Two Hats 🎩🎩, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:49, Reply)

No I did not read about the block of flats in Benidorm that, due to a design cock up, have no lifts from floor 20 to 47.

( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 11:50, Reply)

You should, it's an absolute belter.

( MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 11:50, Reply)

Spanish cunts.
Imagine trying to drag a washing machine up 27 floors.
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 11:50, Reply)

Pah imagine a Spaniard using a washing machine
Or even washing... smelly dagos
(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:12, Reply)

Surely it is lazier to have lifts?
Alt: www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdOCWUgwiWs
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 11:50, Reply)

I love the mariachi juke box.
Your band should do that.
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 11:52, Reply)

The British are superior to our EU chums because...
some of 'them' are a bit olive skinned.
( MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 11:52, Reply)

Smelly food.
Nothing smelly about a pork chop, mash and broccolli.
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 11:53, Reply)

fuck, not again
( hartley hare Just some prick who thinks it doesn't apply to him, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 11:54, Reply)

You can't catch a break, Harters.

(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 11:55, Reply)

Life is being very cruel to me :(
Still could be worse I could be Ginger
( hartley hare Just some prick who thinks it doesn't apply to him, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 11:57, Reply)

Are you a forrin?

( MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:02, Reply)

???
Sorry Doc, you lost me there
( hartley hare Just some prick who thinks it doesn't apply to him, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:06, Reply)

A man of colour?

( MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:08, Reply)

I'm sorry to disappoint I'm a WASP
are you sure you haven't got me mixed up with Sports Cow?
( hartley hare Just some prick who thinks it doesn't apply to him, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:12, Reply)

Just wondered about the 'life being very cruel to me' statement.
Don't mind me, I'm just being thick probably.
( MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:13, Reply)

Striped
orange and black...


Right I am putting this cross upside down and setting it on fire
(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:14, Reply)

:o

( hartley hare Just some prick who thinks it doesn't apply to him, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:17, Reply)

EXACTLY

( MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 11:54, Reply)

I dunno my missus is a veggie
And eats a lot of broccoli, I am pretty sure it does generate a huge amount of smells.
(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:13, Reply)

+ smelly food

( hartley hare Just some prick who thinks it doesn't apply to him, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 11:54, Reply)

Plus, smelly food

( MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 11:54, Reply)

These sort of things are bound to happen once in a while,
Especially somewhere like benidorm where the spanners know idiots are still desperate to livevthat bizarre 90's dream of buying a place abroad, despite the hassle involved and the boom in budget holidays.
If you're in a hurry, or doing anything to a budget it's never going to attract the skill or thought or products or anything as spending some money and doing it right.
Bargains are almost never worth a punt.
( Windy Pig I'm naturally quite suspicious about the moon., Thu 15 Aug 2013, 11:53, Reply)

I think what Spain needs is to build a few more apartment blocks
that will stand empty for years. There aren't enough over there. Did you see that Top Gear? Ouch.
( Kroney, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 11:54, Reply)

Yeah, I can sort of see the logic behind it,
Create jobs to increase incomes to increase spending to buoy the economy.
( Windy Pig I'm naturally quite suspicious about the moon., Thu 15 Aug 2013, 11:55, Reply)

they made hay with that for years
spain is covered with amazing roads that nobody uses, but paid a lot of construction workers for a while
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 11:57, Reply)

High speed rail links closed due to lack of passengers.
Two closed new international airports.
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 11:58, Reply)

my friend's parents took such a bath on their place that they've ended up moving out there and letting their house in england because they can't let the spanish one
sad times, they're in their 70's
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 11:58, Reply)

I'd love to say I feel sympathy for them
but ... it's totally their own fucking fault, so I don't.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:00, Reply)

HAHA!

(Bazongaloid, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:02, Reply)

If you wanted a place in the sun on the cheap, Spain is the place to go.
You can get a reasonable place for under £100k.
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:04, Reply)

They're funding their retirement in the sun
but letting out their old house for superior English money that they spent in a country where it'll buy a lot?

Yeah, those old people are well gutted.
( Kroney, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:07, Reply)

they don't want to go
they know nobody out there, all their friends and family are here. i'm not saying your heart should bleed for them; they took a gamble and lost, but it's a shame for all concerned, the spanish, the people who invested there...
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:09, Reply)

No, you miss my point
it actually is their fault. The major driver for the crash back in 2008 was fucked-up property portfolios. Caused by banks lending on over-inflated property values to (in a fair number of cases) grasping arseholes looking to make a quick buck. So it's a gamble they took and lost. It's something they, essentially, made happen. Innit.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:28, Reply)

Yeah, except they just seem to be building ghost towns to order.
I like a ghost town as much as the next man, but that seems a daft way of doing it.
( Kroney, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 11:57, Reply)

*Specials*

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 11:59, Reply)

he is that, alright

( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:00, Reply)

They should at least see if they could rent them out as film locations

( hartley hare Just some prick who thinks it doesn't apply to him, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:00, Reply)

The thing about ghost towns is that they sound all well and good at the planning stage,
but when it comes down to it, no-one wants to live there.
( MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:01, Reply)

except the ghosts
and they are notoriously difficult to get mortgage payments out of.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:02, Reply)

the one we stayed in cost the guy 250,000 euros
he now reckons it's worth £50k. fuck.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 11:56, Reply)

A few years ago my mate bought an apartment in Prague for £35k
It's now worth about £35k. Dunno what that proves.
( MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 11:59, Reply)

I'd suggest all any of this proves
is that if you buy property abroad (or even here, to be honest) to make money rather than live in, and you lose money, you're totally undeserving of anybody's sympathy, what with being a grasping moneygrabbing cunt.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:01, Reply)

spoken like a true trade unionist.

(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:03, Reply)

fuck no
they are a bunch of cunts and all.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:03, Reply)

Well, it's an investment, innit. Investments carry risk.
You don't invest on the stock market and go "bloo bloo the government should bail me out" when you lose your money.
( Kroney, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:05, Reply)

HA HA. It's funny, because that's exactly what actually happened.

(Bazongaloid, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:08, Reply)

Oh right, yeah, soz.
I ain't an economist.
( Kroney, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:12, Reply)

you've got to be sensible about what you buy, too
my dad did really well on my parents' place, but that was because he chose a nice house in a little row of 8 on a clifftop, not a faceless identikit apartment in a development of 3,000. although he bought it for family holidays, not financial gain, and it was worth a million times the cash in terms of the pleasure we all got out of it.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:11, Reply)

The whole problem stems from the idea that people see houses as an investment
THey aren't, they are a place to live. People seeking to profit from their houses is teh reason we are totally and utterly fucked in thsi country and almost nobody below the age of 30 who doesn't already own property will ever be able to afford to buy their own place in the future.

Instead of trying to solve this problem, the Tories are instead artificially reinflating a housing bubble and then crowing that this is somehow a good thing that they are doing for the country
(Bazongaloid, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:16, Reply)

Chompy is probably going to be right on one thing
I can't see how we're getting out of this mess without some sort of deeper housing market slump. We're barely scraping along with rock-bottom interest rates. Sooner or later they're going to have to go up again.
( Kroney, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:18, Reply)

there won't be a housing slump as such
there will be some parts of the country getting fucked and others continuing to rise
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:23, Reply)

London will be safe enough, it always is.
The rest of the country is where things will suffer and there's a lot of people living there and earning far below the London average.
( Kroney, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:29, Reply)

London isn't at all safe
because property there is more over-valued than anywhere.

It's safe as long as there is demand and people can afford it. But when police, nurses, teachers, etc etc really can't afford to live there any more, then you've got a problem. Unless you think a city with no healthcare, policing or transport is going to remain an attractive option?
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:35, Reply)

So what do you think will actually happen?

( Kroney, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:36, Reply)

I've not the faintest idea, mate
you're probably right that London will stay hugely over-inflated. But it's very dangerous to say "it'll always be safe" because it's ridiculously over-valued right now and there will be a limit to what values can reach, for the reasons I gave and many others. And the more overpriced everything is when that happens, the more abrupt the cliff-face fall with be.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:41, Reply)

Let's use an example I think I've done before.
I used to work in London and had a house down there. I sold and moved up here. Academics are paid the same anywhere in the UK. So, now, if I wanted to go back I'd have to take a massive quality of life hit to afford a decent property. So I won't. Nor will many others. Eventually the London Unis will not be able to attract top-end academics for this reason and the quality will fall, so then the funding will fall. The funding that also supports large parts of the hospitals associated with universities. And businesses associated with them, and commercial collaborations, and so on and so forth. Same for anything where salaries are set nationwide. Something's got to break in the end.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:45, Reply)

Do you really think the majority of the next generation will not be able to buy?
I'm in a fairly affluent part of the country and most of my friends are starting to look at buying in the next year or so.
( Windy Pig I'm naturally quite suspicious about the moon., Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:18, Reply)

depends how fussy you are about where you live
eg if i didn't have my flat and i moved back up north, i couldn't afford to live where my dad does. but i could move north of manchester and have something really nice.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:23, Reply)

But you wouldn't earn what you currently earn if you lived north of Mnachester

(Bazongaloid, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:27, Reply)

of course not
this is why i couldn't afford to live where my dad does. but i could bloo bloo about that, or i could suck it up and buy a really nice house on the other side of manchester.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:30, Reply)

Buy a really nice house with your much lower wages?

(Bazongaloid, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:32, Reply)

yep
using me as the specific example, you can get a beautiful 2 bed for about £80k where my cousins live in yorkshire. i could afford that on manchester wages, and i could commute to manchester from there.

£80k wouldn't get me a cardboard box where my dad is. this is my point. either bloo bloo about not being able to afford cheshire, or suck it up and rent in cheshire or buy elsewhere.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:34, Reply)

I'm pretty sure your wages in Manchester would stretch to more than an 80K mortgage.

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:36, Reply)

How many high powered solicitor firms are there out in the middle of nowhere in Yorkshre where you can buy these 80K cottages?

(Bazongaloid, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:38, Reply)

It'll be the middle of nowhere petrol stations in Yorkshire
that'll be her biggest problem when she comes to refuel her 25mpg car when she travels to her high powered firm in Manchester.
( Kroney, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:40, Reply)

there are plenty in manchester
which is about 45 mins away

this is why i said "commute to manchester"
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:42, Reply)

The average wage on a countrywide basis is something like less than 20K.
The average house price is going up and up. You used to borrow about 3 times your earnings, now that doesn't buy you anything, even with two people trying to pitch in.

So you end up with more families being squeezed into smaller and poorer quality housing despite the fact that there is fucking loads of space in the UK.
(Bazongaloid, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:26, Reply)

they could always not pop out sprogs that they can't afford
which some people do, even you have to admit that
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:31, Reply)

Many years ago a couple we knew made the most outlandish comment to us
"We will wait until we can afford to have kids"
You can never afford to have children you just have to make do
( hartley hare Just some prick who thinks it doesn't apply to him, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:34, Reply)

So, out of a population of nearly 70 million people
some people, a very, very small minority of all the people, will deliberately set ot to have kids that they know they can't afford.

However, some people will accidently get pregnant and not be happy having an abortion for many different reasons. On yet another hand some people will have a kid or two or three and suddnely find themselves in changed cicumstances, say through being made redundant, or through the death of a partner.

These other situations hugely outnumber the people who will deliberately have kids they can't afford, but I will digress slightly here to say that if your idea of an easy life is having children because you think it's worth getting a few quid extra in benefits then you have no idea what it's actually like to look after a child.

And yet you think that focusing on this tiny minority, and in fact using their mere existance as a reason to justify punishing people who through no fault of their own end up in trouble, is the way to put your argument?
(Bazongaloid, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:35, Reply)

nope, i wasn't talking about benefit scroungers - i think we all know they exist a tiny bit in real life and primarily on the fail front page
but if you're going to blame people for making money on the housing market for squeezing families into small houses, maybe that social responsibility goes two ways.

after all, if you sell your house, and you've made a £100k profit, are you going to say, "oh no, i can't possibly take that money mr buyer, because it's ramping up the housing prices" ?
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:40, Reply)

You're completely missing the point here.
People were encouraged to view houses as an investment. This has driven the cost of housing up to the point where it is now unrealistic form most people to be able to afford to buy a house even to live in without assistance from family members (which is okay) or the government (which is not okay, and is simply making the problem worse).

I don't even know what you're saying about people needing to be able to afford their kids since if you aren't talking about benefit cheats, or to be more realistic, people who think that difficulty of raising another child is worth the small amount of extra money they receive in benefits, then you must be talking about either people who have got themselves into a situation by accident where they have more kids they can afford, or you're talking about a number of people so small, that it is totally insignificant in the grand scheme of things to base any policy on them, other than a policy of appeasing people too stupid to understand that that is what you're doing.

The blame for the situation first lies with the previous governments for knowing that a housing bubble was a bad idea, but doing nothing about it. This started with Thatcher, but was perpetuated under Labour.

But it's now at a point where the current government, despite knowing full well that what they are doing is economic suiicde, are continuing to promote house prices as a measure of growth, despite the fact that the majority of new mortgages are currently going to buy-to-let properties, because people once again view hosues as an investment.
(Bazongaloid, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:48, Reply)

you are the one who was talking about families being squeezed into homes that are too small for them
are you saying that ALL these poor (as in unfortunate) people found themselves knocked up accidentally?

i don't disagree with your last para at all. however, i do think it's a fact of life that people will always see property as an investment, and you're never going to change that mindset.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:49, Reply)

No, i'm saying that people are being fucked over by constantly rising house prices,
which aren't being matched by rising wages.

Which bit of this don't you get?
(Bazongaloid, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:51, Reply)

it's not the only reason, but it's a major part for a lot of people
people got too hung up on the idea that they HAVE to buy. i've got several friends with 100% mortgages (or 105% in one case) who are now in negative equity and totally fucked.

although i guess if you buy in london, you're probably ok. i thought my friends were mental for getting a 105% mortgage in streatham, but they're now selling it for an £80k profit.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:22, Reply)

you're totally missing the point
you're still obsessing about "value" from a financial sense

It's somewhere to fucking live. That is what its value it. It's not something to make money on. People wanting property to make money on it is one of the major reasons the world is economically fucked into a cocked hat. IMO you shouldn't be allowed to treat something that is a basic requirement for humanity (housing) as an "investment"
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:32, Reply)

did you miss this?
if you're buying for yourself, you have to love it, and you have to see it as investing in your home life, not a way to make cash

( rachelswipe "i would smile if she died". A+., Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:19, Delete, Edit, Reply, I like this!)

we are saying the same thing! however, there is no way you can stop it.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:35, Reply)

Yes, but you then went on to say:
if you're investing for cash, you have to know what you are doing. otherwise you might be lucky, you might not.

Which is the direct opposite of what TMB said.
(Bazongaloid, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:36, Reply)

so, what will you do with any profit on your house?
i'm assuming you won't keep it, based on how wrong that would be?
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:44, Reply)

You're missing the whole point here by focusing on individuals.
The problem is not that house prices rise a bit over time in line with inflation, it's that house prices are at the stage where they are unaffordable.

If all house prices fell, then I can still sell my house and buy another one somewhere else with no real difference (assuming i'm not in negative equity).
(Bazongaloid, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:49, Reply)

yeah, but you think making profits on houses is BAD
so come on, what will you do with the profits?
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:53, Reply)

yes you can.
Massive taxation on more than one property.

and, no, I didn't miss that. you said "i've got several friends with 100% mortgages (or 105% in one case) who are now in negative equity and totally fucked. although i guess if you buy in london, you're probably ok. i thought my friends were mental for getting a 105% mortgage in streatham, but they're now selling it for an £80k profit."

You're buying to live in. How much you make or whether you are in negative equity right now are not relevant if your concern is its value as a home.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:38, Reply)

so you'd stifle all investment in property?

( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:43, Reply)

why not?
I'd rather not go that far, but people are cunts. If it's the only way to prevent this idiotic overvaluation of property (which, let's not forget, has taken down the world's economy once already and will do so again) then, let's do it.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:48, Reply)

although massive taxation on buy to let properties wouldn't stifle investment
it would just level things out a bit.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:50, Reply)

so you stop property investment in the uk
and all the money that is currently being spent in the uk is diverted to other countries, a number of builders and agents and surveyors and conveyancers etc are made redundant, ok, with you so far.

and then what happens to people whose mortgages are too high? fuck 'em?
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:51, Reply)

Yep. fuck em.
They've been fucking the rest of us for decades, sweetie.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:52, Reply)

but then they'd be unemployed
and on the dole. how would that help the economy, rather than them being employed and paying tax, spending money etc?
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:56, Reply)

You say this like it's a bad thing.
But this entire discussion has been about how investing in houses is a bad thing because it has completely fucked our economy. Can you really not see that?
(Bazongaloid, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:50, Reply)

of course i can
i agree with some of what you are saying. and i am guilty of winding you up a bit, because i do love a good leftie froth. but you are far too black and white about it. there are always some benefits to investment. they might not benefit the people you would like, though.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:52, Reply)

This.
Investing in a new build may be safe, but won't have the returns of buying a good looking house in a dodgy area that might be improving.
( Windy Pig I'm naturally quite suspicious about the moon., Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:17, Reply)

if you're buying for yourself, you have to love it, and you have to see it as investing in your home life, not a way to make cash
if you're investing for cash, you have to know what you are doing. otherwise you might be lucky, you might not.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:19, Reply)

My brother does a bit of both,
Bought himself a fantastic flat, lives in it sometimes, puts it up on short let's when he's on the road (sound tech) the boy is rich I tells ya.
( Windy Pig I'm naturally quite suspicious about the moon., Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:22, Reply)

sounds sensible to me

( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:24, Reply)

That block in question was €93m loan from bank to build.
The developer put up €3,100. If that was a domestic mortgage it'd be equivalent to 30,000 x your wages.
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 11:57, Reply)

Some bargains are worth a go
Like 6 cans of Sanpellegrino Blood Orange for £1. DEAL!
( MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 11:56, Reply)

Alright, yeah ok, there is the odd offer worth taking, but generally I'm right.

( Windy Pig I'm naturally quite suspicious about the moon., Thu 15 Aug 2013, 11:57, Reply)

I would say it's 50/50

( MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 11:58, Reply)

You're an optimist frog, that's what I like about you.

( Windy Pig I'm naturally quite suspicious about the moon., Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:13, Reply)

That chinese bloke who built a mansion on top of the appartment building was quite funny
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-23677990
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 11:53, Reply)

He's not a princeling, you know.

(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:00, Reply)

Alt: No, fuck the lot of them
They waste a shitload of my time every fucking week.
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 11:55, Reply)

Are there a lot of Hondurans in Congleton then?

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:01, Reply)

"Accord"ing to recent surveys, yes

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:14, Reply)

No, I'm referring to the unions
We produce cards for several of them
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:39, Reply)

I imagine they just threw the goat from halfway up then

(Icky the bare bum firebobby oggglebogglehnnngagagawurrrr, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:02, Reply)

We're not better than France or Germany
If you're french or german, your wages are rising in real terms, but ours are falling.
(Bazongaloid, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:03, Reply)

Mine aren't.

(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:05, Reply)

Mine are.

( Kroney, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:05, Reply)

They might be falling in the "provinces"

(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:08, Reply)

Mine are staying the same.

( MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:08, Reply)

Neither are mine
but then I earn a fucking packet.

That said, my wife is no loner getting maternity pay for the next three months and then she's going back part time, so it looks like I'll have to curtail my high end gaming.
(Bazongaloid, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:08, Reply)

Say it ain't so, Al.

(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:09, Reply)

Sorry stunned.
I'm gonna be reduced to reading b3ta and telling you all exactly why it would be better if we all joined a union.
(Bazongaloid, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:10, Reply)

mine went up
but so did the workload. bloo bloo.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:12, Reply)

I'm unemployed, the situation in this country is going to the dogs.

( Windy Pig I'm naturally quite suspicious about the moon., Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:14, Reply)

Here, Windy, I've got an idea, right?
You be a spark, I'll do plumbing and we can start a business going around rooting through peoples' drawers and drinking their tea under the thin veil of repairing shit.

Sound good?
( Kroney, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:16, Reply)

Sounds like a fucking dream.

( Windy Pig I'm naturally quite suspicious about the moon., Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:19, Reply)

Yesh helloo I heresh to check your plumbingsh

(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:27, Reply)

Actually, I might do electrics too
and move to the Oxford area and become your lecky nemesis.
( Kroney, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:30, Reply)

Lecky Nemesis
Great name for band
( Two Hats 🎩🎩, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:51, Reply)

It does not shock me at all sir
Watching them build stuff on t'continent shits me right up. Some wire, lots of conrete and some shitty breeze blocks does not a high-rise apartment complex make
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:16, Reply)

^ THIS ^

( hartley hare Just some prick who thinks it doesn't apply to him, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:21, Reply)

It's like they've never even seen 'Carry On Abroad' or sutin
Els Bels!
( Reginald Donkeyfuck, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:22, Reply)

Also see American housing construction
I remember seeing pictures of the aftermath of hurricane Katrina in New Orleans lots of levelled houses the one building standing almost unscathed was the brick built church.
( hartley hare Just some prick who thinks it doesn't apply to him, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:29, Reply)

Why the fuck do they build houses out of wood in a hurricane zone?
Have they not read the 3 little pigs?
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:55, Reply)

It's just their way, Timber frame has benifits in the right environment
but as you said not in hurricane ally
( hartley hare Just some prick who thinks it doesn't apply to him, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:56, Reply)

I remember the wife watching "Paranormal Activity" and going on about how nice
their house was and how could a young couple afford it, the answer of "Yes but they are built out of ply and rendered and liable to collapse if they get hit by a gnats fart" was a bit lost on her
( hartley hare Just some prick who thinks it doesn't apply to him, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:59, Reply)

I forgot to ask
How did the IRL TROLLING OF PENIS ART COMPETITON 'bash' go?
( Reginald Donkeyfuck, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:16, Reply)

It was well lol you should've been there m8

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:16, Reply)

I couldn't find my balloon hat, er...blud
Was there jeering and rude hand gestures?
( Reginald Donkeyfuck, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:18, Reply)

*whistles nonchalantly*

( hartley hare Just some prick who thinks it doesn't apply to him, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:20, Reply)

You know what they say.

( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:39, Reply)

No, what do they say?

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:42, Reply)

Bummers are deaf!









... No, really, I am!
( GeordieJay Bummers are deaf, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:46, Reply)

Why would people willingly move in there?
Benidorm, not the block of flats.

Spain's Blackpool. Fuckin 'orrid.
The telly show alone is enough to put you off.

Still. Sooner there than Egypt right now.

Hells bells!
( GeordieJay Bummers are deaf, Thu 15 Aug 2013, 12:45, Reply)