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Nakers is a fucking prick. It's Friday night.Tell me how you're using your weekend to pretend that your life isn't actually an endless parade of mundanity and quiet desperation.
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Amorous Badger NAKED BEA ARTHUR PHOTOS 4U, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 19:21,
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im not. I embrace the mundane, that's why I come here.(
MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 19:50,
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Drink and drugs, of course!(
tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 19:54,
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Are you turning the Yurtists into a Boyce tribute act?If so, could you get on with the 'killing yourself' bit?
Also: totes went to Lucy ward the other week. It was well good.
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Amorous Badger NAKED BEA ARTHUR PHOTOS 4U, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 20:03,
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I don't know herShould I?
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tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 20:08,
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She won the Horizon award at last year's folk awards. She's mates with O'Hooley and Tidow.(
Amorous Badger NAKED BEA ARTHUR PHOTOS 4U, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 20:11,
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Do you know Cath & Phil Tyler?You'd like them.
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tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 20:13,
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I'm not aware of their work.(
Amorous Badger NAKED BEA ARTHUR PHOTOS 4U, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 20:14,
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He's a banjo/fiddle player and she's a great singerThey do their own settings of traditional songs sounding somewhere between English and American folk.
S'good.
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tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 20:19,
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Just picked up an album by a lady called Valerie June.Lovely stuff at the point where blues meets country meets folk.
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Amorous Badger NAKED BEA ARTHUR PHOTOS 4U, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 20:38,
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It's almost achingly beautiful.(
Amorous Badger NAKED BEA ARTHUR PHOTOS 4U, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 20:41,
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The name sounds familiar, but I can't place it...(
tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 20:45,
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OI Tangles, look what your mates at Norman Records emailed me!Hi there [REAL NAME]
it looks like quite a bit of UK mail we shipped on monday hasn't arrived. This happened last month and it took about 7-10 days for everything to arrive. God knows why as we shipped first class. Sorry about the delay and hopefully Royal Mail will pull their finger out of their arse and get your record to you asap!
cheers
Phil
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MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 20:08,
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You should've ordered it from me, so I lose less money.I'll have to send Phil an invoice now.
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tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 20:15,
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You told me to go to them. £15.67 that potential frisbee/place mat cost. Shocking.(
MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 20:16,
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I'd have done it for £15 delivered(
tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 20:20,
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Probably wouldn't have got that either.I sent Dozer a record which has fucking disappeared into the ether too.
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MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 20:21,
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I'm sure it'll arrive soonThat's some tasty bit of vinyl you've got yourself there. Bound to be a collector's item in a few years.
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tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 20:24,
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That's what I thought. I wanted to get in early so I can be all hipster when you hit the big time.(
MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 20:26,
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Did you read the nice review of it on the site?(
tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 20:28,
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Yes, I was sold on the phrase 'dronier material'.I also really like the cover art.
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MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 20:33,
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Cool, thanksI'm very pleased with the artwork
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tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 20:35,
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I was genuinely quite looking forward to listening to it.I have been waiting three weeks for my first proper taste of Yurt-hop.
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MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 20:38,
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I can't guarantee you'll enjoy it, but hopefully it won't bore you(
tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 20:44,
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I saw some YouTube stuff which I quite liked, I'm just a bit annoyed you aren't really shit.I will have to wait for the difficult second album.
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MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 20:50,
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wait till you see him live it's like someone gave a retarded lama a ukulele (
Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 20:53,
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What would you know? Your favourite band is Keane.(
MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 20:55,
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Well he is a floppy haired, rosy cheeked, baby faced homosexual...(
MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 20:58,
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Yeah, I realised that after I totally 'geordiejayed' itBy which I mean missed the point rather than bummed it into next week.
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MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 21:14,
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All the songs are sorted, we start recording this month.(
tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 20:57,
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I think you're the second actually, no offence(
tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 21:02,
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Fair play, you lads are doing well for yourselves. I won't let my selfish aspirations get in the way of your art.(
MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 21:05,
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A mix of spending time with my daughter, researching some additional volunteering opportunities, cooking, eating too much, a few pints, planning the details of Christmas with micro & plotting the downfall of the Catholic church. I might murder a couple of gypsy kids as well.
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Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 20:03,
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funny you say that as I have a mix of spending time with your mum, researching some additional sexual positions with your mum, cocking (ym), eating out your mum, making your mum drink a few pints of spunk, planning the details of Christmas with your mum and plotting the downfall of you. I might murder a couple of "your people" as well
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Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 20:52,
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This seems a little harsh, show your workingalso shit england football lols
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Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 20:45,
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Received wisdom innit(
tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 20:48,
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Football is for the yobbish uncouth masses, not for me.(
MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 20:51,
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I just had me chemo so tomorow i'm gonna chill, might do some work, have a masturbation.Just made a fucking lush carbonara.
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G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩€, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 20:46,
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Nah', they give it for all sorts of things.I didn't even know it was chemo until last week.
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G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩€, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 21:14,
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The types of chemo i'm on are alright...... the weekly tablet ones knacker me the next day, and the every-8-weeks one knackers me out for a couple of days.... but the difference they make is amazing, before I'd have 2 good weeks out of every couple of months, I now get 2 bad weeks out of every couple of months.
I've been on the every-8-weeks one for about 4 years now, didn't even know it was chemo, it must be super-mild compared to the stuff cancer people get.
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G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩€, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 22:45,
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Oh no you'll have to spend some money, you penny pinching miser.Don't you know piracy funds terrorism?
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MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 20:57,
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I terrorised your mum and she jihad her first orgasm.(
MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 21:03,
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I did have a lol earlier, but it was something on /talk so it doesn't count.(
MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 21:12,
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I'm planning my next DJ podcast. I'm going to be blending some cutting edge drone folk with some vintage drill n bass and ending with some euphoric uplifting trance.(, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 20:56, Reply)
Sounds achingly beautiful(
tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 20:58,
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the highlight will be the segue from Come On My Selector to For an Angel.(, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 21:00, Reply)
then again, I might just play Budhakan Mindphone and Music is Rotted One Note back to back, then play James Lavelle's fabriclive mix and take the credit.Even though it was mixed by Richard File.
LOL!
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i can't even be bothered to not meet him(
Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 21:13,
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nah, fuckers...have you seen they're new Wonka chocolate launch?It's a fucking joke
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Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 21:16,
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I wouldn't go that far, I'd definitely not meet him.(
MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 21:15,
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Don't forget the crowd loves dexys midnight runners(
MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 21:00,
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You aren't a proper DJ then.Also, turn it down a bit.
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MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 21:01,
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Taking requests mean that the people know better than you what they want to hear.Don't be ridiculous.
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The best djs do that, think Wogan, moyles, Blackburn, I could go on.....Those guys didn't get where they are by not listening to what the people want.
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MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 21:04,
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I admire Wogan's mastery of the pitch control, he doesn't need to push or drag the platter, he just rides the pitches.Moyles is a genius of the long blend, I saw him at Basics once where he kept The Sun Can't Compare and Shake n' Pop in a blend for two whole minutes.
Blackburn though, talentless cunt. Makes the Tidy Boys look credible.
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Talentless? Have you never seen him singing that medallion around his neck? You ent got a clue mate.
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MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 21:11,
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Soz.Worrabout if I big up Pete Tong?
Will that rescue my credibility?
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On benefits and proud!scum, subhuman scum
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Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 21:17,
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You're on benefits? You're proud? Well I never.(
MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 21:18,
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Ooh I'm going to watch it. I like seeing skanks and pikeys get free money.(
MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 21:20,
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they are buying clothes from a shabby tent on the street(
Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 21:21,
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Cor imaging having to get a job you don't necessarily want to work your way up in the wonderful world of employment?Why can't they just earn over 26k immediately, it's so wrong!
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MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 21:25,
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the bird with 11 kids gets benefits equivilant to a £60k salaryit's actually not very much to look after that many kids
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Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 21:30,
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It's also not very common a situation and should be viewed as the exception rather than the norm.(, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 21:31, Reply)
Ah now, Swipe's dad worked really hard for her property portfolio!(
Amorous Badger NAKED BEA ARTHUR PHOTOS 4U, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 21:24,
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haahaha, "i'll only sign off for at least £30k a year"(
Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 21:24,
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"i want £500 every week after rent/bills/food"(
Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 21:26,
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i do actully feel bad for they kids, they haven't got a fucking chance(
Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 21:28,
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nah but serioulsy I'd probably have the adults killed if I ccould(
Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 21:30,
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AHHHHH even her potato preparation annoys me(
Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 21:37,
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This is so annoying. I shouldn't watch because it makes me want to go mental.(
MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 21:40,
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I did a bit of part time work last year that involved going into some of those shitholes they live in, thick parents, fucking lazy, doing fuck all all day,Dirty bastards, and the poor kids didn't know any different. It was fucking appalling.
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MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 21:31,
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Man hands on misery to man(
tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 21:33,
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take the kids send them to boarding school, kill the parents while they are away(
Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 21:35,
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Can't we incinerate them to produce electricity or something?(
MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 21:37,
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the fuckimg lard content would keep them burning for a week(
Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 21:38,
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Human candles to light the streets of the estates.(
MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 21:41,
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yo frog, did you know there's a 3 hour Avery mix on the Boiler Room?Recorded at fabric. The first 45 mins or so is shoegazey stuff then he goes a bit druggy tech and I haven't got to the next bit.
He has freakishly long arms.
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Imma listen tomorrow pal, I have a spare three hours.(
MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 21:26,
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I bet they will do a very professional job that will last a lifetime LOL(
MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 21:32,
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We listen to that at work. Boiler Room that is. I think Avery has been on before(
GeordieJay Bummers are deaf, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 22:14,
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Avery is really fucking good, both as a DJ and as a producer.Probbles not your thing though.
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I listen to allsorts but since being where I am Im liking a lot of tech house and progThis is an OLD tune but one of my faves at the minute is by Flashmob, called 'Need in Me'
Not sure what genre it fits in.
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GeordieJay Bummers are deaf, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 22:18,
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I like tech house and a bit of progNot too much prog though, when it gets too melodic it gets shit.
You should give Ivan Smagghe a go, and tiefschwarz, M.A.N.D.Y. and Wiggle. Craig Richards plays great stuff as well, but he's a bit chin strokey.
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Haha! I've just realised it;s because they remixed a LOAD of 90's pop songs.For shame!
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GeordieJay Bummers are deaf, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 22:23,
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Have you heard Motor City Drum Ensemble?He's really good.
Best DJ I've seen is probably Ralph Lawson or Andy Weatherall.
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Recently I'd have to say Gareth Emery Above and Beyond were good in Ibiza last year too. But you hate trance so...
carl cox was shit.
Im too commerical
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GeordieJay Bummers are deaf, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 22:26,
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Yeah I take the Dave Clarke view of trance, soz.Never liked it, ever. Not back in 98 when it was all PVD, not since. And it's even worse on pills.
It's structured like a soap opera.
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I like a bit of structure,I did take a LOT of E back in the day.
I went that way early. Loves Sash's Encore Une fois at 15 and went from there.
Flirted with hard House for a bit too.
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GeordieJay Bummers are deaf, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 22:30,
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Your mother didn't raise you to watch lowbrow 'entertainment' on Channel Five(
tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 21:22,
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i know...i want to watch a film but the government has stolen them from me : ((
Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 21:23,
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She'd be appalledIf she wasn't otherwise engaged with my cock in her mouth
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tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 21:24,
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I heard that his mum 'raises' lots of men.(
Amorous Badger NAKED BEA ARTHUR PHOTOS 4U, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 21:37,
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I have a new hammer bought this evening.Just wondering where to test drive it. Booze and new tools are a sexy mix all right.
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I recommend your local red light district for hammer testing. (
Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 21:45,
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Don't I need a HGV licence for that? I might just hammer some nails into random bits of wood to fuck off the neighbours.(, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 21:49, Reply)
Minicab is a safer bet than an HGV. Less obvious. (
Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 21:50,
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Probably is thinking about it, I had a set time when I was forced to sign on in a fruitless bid to save a pittance of redundancy pay.It was horrible.
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MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 21:50,
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I had to sign on so that I could claim on my MPPI.It wasn't very nice.
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That was without a doubt one of the most degrading things I have ever had to do, and I've shagged Nakers mum, twice.(
MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 21:52,
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fuck my mum once shame on her, fuck her twice, shame on you(
Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 22:00,
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I did fire my 'shame' up her bum though, so that was nice.(
MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 22:02,
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you forced Micheal Fassbender up my mother's arse?(
Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 22:03,
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I forced MY Fassbender up her arse alright!(
MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 22:05,
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i would do carey mullifgan so hard in the ear and other places(
Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 22:07,
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What, Basingstoke, Reading, Castleford?(
Amorous Badger NAKED BEA ARTHUR PHOTOS 4U, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 22:12,
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Yeah I had to sign on for a few weeks when I was made redundant last year.Along with changing cat litter, it's up there with thankless tasks.
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GeordieJay Bummers are deaf, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 21:55,
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It's the bullshit things they have to say because the majority of people there can barely spell their name. (
MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 21:56,
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I have a Friday to myself for the first time in ages.Drinking Malbec, watching Breaking Bad and making a new ipod playlist.
LIVING THE DREAM!
Sainsburys own Malbec is delicious.
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GeordieJay Bummers are deaf, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 21:53,
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Yeah Im no snob. Sometimes own label is nicer.can't say the same for their Cava
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GeordieJay Bummers are deaf, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 21:55,
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Hank gets executed by Jack, Walt goes into hiding and then comes back to kill the Nazi gang, Jessie escapes.THE END.
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Oh Christ, you are a fucking moron sometimes.(
MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 22:01,
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that's not what happens in Lord of the Ring(
Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 22:05,
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Arrows to the evrywhere then. Stop being pedantic!(
GeordieJay Bummers are deaf, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 22:07,
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I hate Hank so that's great!I don't know who the Nazi gang is.
You are a cock though.
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GeordieJay Bummers are deaf, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 22:03,
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this is england sweet cheeks, we have "series"(
Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 22:04,
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it's an American show and they describe each sequence of episodes as a 'season'ok hun
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I like the bit in 'this is England' where that lad says 'paki'(
MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 22:06,
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I like the bit in Romper Stomper where Russel Crowe explains to a Vietnamese kid that it isn't his country and then violently assaults him.(, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 22:09, Reply)
I like the bit in gran Torino where Clint Eastwood calls those coloured lads 'spooks'(
MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 22:11,
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I like the bit where I describe fit Asian birds as 'curry munching flange'(, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 22:12, Reply)
Only the second. Im always late to the party with these thingsJust got Netflix though.
He's just watched Jessie's girlfriend choke on her vomit. Lovely.
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GeordieJay Bummers are deaf, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 22:07,
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Yeah that's been my first hand to mouth moment.Oh and Danny Trejo's head on an exploding tortoise
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GeordieJay Bummers are deaf, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 22:10,
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Se'sly, season 4 is superb.Perfectly paced, and the acting gets a lot better.
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Walt poisons Brock and Cagny and Lacy bust Jessie(
Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 22:15,
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i bet you'd let danny stab you with his machete(
Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 22:13,
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Urgh. No thanks.I'd do Jessie though. Even on heroin.
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GeordieJay Bummers are deaf, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 22:21,
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Breaking bad is the only reason to have NetflixIt's shit for films innit.
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Pretty much yeah.Loads of things I haven't seen though. Dexter, American Horror Story (on the U.S one), Hemlock Grove.
Should keep me busy for a while and you can stop any time
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GeordieJay Bummers are deaf, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 22:19,
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LOL the new head of the world anti doping agency is scottish(
Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 22:23,
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"Erm... Yes, just give all the dope to me. I'll make sure it's safe"(
GeordieJay Bummers are deaf, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 22:24,
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Ken drugs like?Dinnae fucken touch em or i'll fucken chib ye, ye cunt, ken?
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you know what i'd like to know?For all these cyclists getting squished and asking for more infrastructure to keep them safe... they offering to help pay for it at all.
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Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 22:28,
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why? Cyclists are fucking parasites, they take up all of the road, slow the traffic, act like twats and expect to do it all for free(
Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 22:32,
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do you think 'car tax' pays for roads or sutin?Because Vehicle Excise Duty goes straight in to the main tax pot. It doesn't pay for roads any more than income tax, IHT or CGT do.
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nah, but they are all over the news crying and asking for more cycle lanes and special junctions etcif they want it so fucking much stump up some cash
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Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 22:36,
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they are stumping up cash in the same way cash is stumped up for new roads.You really are a tit, do you not understand how taxation and infrastructure spending work?
You probably don't.
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yeah but they are a) asking for extra shit b) are in the minority(
Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 22:40,
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of course it doesthere are £x to spend, should they be spent on a minority of people and their interests or used for the greater good of more people?
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Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 22:52,
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Right, Im off too.Have a good 'un if Im not back on til Moan day
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GeordieJay Bummers are deaf, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 22:31,
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Opera and a tiny fake ice cream cone!(
Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 15 Nov 2013, 23:29,
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