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( , Sun 1 Apr 2001, 1:00)
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At some point you have to accept that whatever happened and it didn't kill you. Going round acting like a martyr isn't going to change it, so why not man the fuck up and act like a human instead of a fucking twat?
Discuss.
( , Wed 3 Jun 2009, 19:11, 23 replies, latest was 16 years ago)

I don't blame anything I do wrong on my childhood, and have forged a nicelife for myself instead of sitting around whingeing.
( , Wed 3 Jun 2009, 19:18, Reply)

for goodness sake, why can't people just get over their shit?
I've come across so many people who choose to be defined by what has happened to them, with never a second thought for the part that they played in whatever events occured...
( , Wed 3 Jun 2009, 19:18, Reply)

Going with this. Sure, some crap's happened while I was younger and I could have avoided a lot of it by opening my eyes to what was happening and changing some things about myself, and it still affects me a bit - but it's my life, I'll do what and make the best of I can with it. Not letting those fuckers hold me back.
( , Wed 3 Jun 2009, 19:22, Reply)

At some point you have to accept that we are all different and will all die guilty. As such we all act like martyrs; it's part of being human. Give people a chance and they often turn out not to be complete twats.
*isn't sure of the above but it made sense as an excersise in arguing in a wine-addled haze as a direct result of his alcoholic father and said father's wine cellar - maybe*
( , Wed 3 Jun 2009, 19:21, Reply)

but it also shouldn't be what defines you as a person. I've known some people who've overcome some dark stuff in their time and they've emerged as relatively normal sane loving people. Possibly because of it, but more so through strength of character.
( , Wed 3 Jun 2009, 19:29, Reply)

I was just being perverse. people who go on about their upbringing as a desperate attempt to excuse appalling behaviour are fucking irritating.
Edit: and I have gone about my upbringing too much in the past and trying to stop doing that. not quite normal or sane and getting justifiably hated by a girl it's not working out with against all expectation, but at least I'm my own person - I don't belong to my past.
( , Wed 3 Jun 2009, 19:32, Reply)

I should be in london trying to make a relationship work and get some loving but I'm a flake and didn't realise what was going on and sent her an email explaining why I didn't want to go that really pissed her off - too much info. My big mouth. Now drinking wine.. as a possible result of an upbringing drinking wine. Probably because I'm a flaky alcoholic chronically scared of rejection and in my comfort zone that's not actually so comfortable.
Argument time: I remember you work with pets or something. Why the fuck do you give a shit about a stupid decrepid cat?
( , Wed 3 Jun 2009, 19:43, Reply)

Not to late to get to London now and tell her that you love her and want some loving.
( , Wed 3 Jun 2009, 19:47, Reply)

besides we've met up a few times and it just hasn't worked out. I've made it clear in the last few months that I'm hooked on her while she's said there's no chemistry. So every time I try to be just friends and mention that I'm even slightly looking around elsewhere she gets irritable. Fine but if she's dating other guys as she has been then not fine.. I can't be bothered with this endless charade and the decision not to catch a train was damage limitation. I'm still hung up on her. Shouldn't have told her about the stunning girl I've been talking to who is 10 years my junior I suppose. Fuck it, I need to man up. I've been foolish but no need to feel guilty after all the info on her dates with me being the ever-so-understanding "friend". Women! Are you all like that? Or is it me?
( , Wed 3 Jun 2009, 19:55, Reply)

then there's not much hope for the two of you. Also, if it took you mentioning another girl, prettier than her, to stir her attention then she is clearly suffering from the green eyed monster and will soon lose interest again once she's out of the picture.
We're not all out to fuck with your heads, I talk to some friends about guys I'm seeing, but never go into specifics out of respect.
( , Wed 3 Jun 2009, 19:58, Reply)

it's what I think really and was nice to hear it. The green-eyed monster.. for sure.. might be why I crave her too. I'd love to be just friends and forget all this romance crap that has fucked with both our heads.
I just can't shake the feeling I've said too much to her and have been offensive when I should have realised I was. She's got a big mouth but so have I. We are similar in a lot of ways.. sigh.
We speak on the phone every day for hours like a married couple.. guess we are both lonely.
( , Wed 3 Jun 2009, 20:12, Reply)

because I think people who think people should be shot should be shot. I'm a fucking lame hippy. As a result of my upbringing. I feel like shooting someone.
( , Wed 3 Jun 2009, 19:27, Reply)

Not so much my childhood, but stuff I went through as a young adult made me grow up a hell of a lot.
Glad I went through it all, as it was all a learning curve.
( , Wed 3 Jun 2009, 19:46, Reply)

as basically nothing has ever gone badly or wrong for me.
I'm a lucky fucker I know.
It makes it quite hard to relate to people who have undergone stuff. Maybe not relate...hard to understand emotional states and stuff.
( , Wed 3 Jun 2009, 20:18, Reply)

I prescribe therapy as a means of intergrating you into the pain of the world. not really - it's pretty cool that you get on with things. Carry on, as Mark and Lard would say.
( , Wed 3 Jun 2009, 20:22, Reply)
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