What the fuck
I don't get enough sleep. Usually I get 3-4 hours sleep plus an hour of dozing. In my esteemed wisdom I had decided to try and get in to a better sleeping pattern during my week off.

So last night I went to bed some time between 2 and 3, pretty much the norm, but I slept for almost 12 hours this time.

I feel worse than usual. This sucks. Perhaps if I try going to bed before midnight for the first time I can remember.

As an aside from my barely conscious rambling, who was it that told me they'd drunk vodka and Dr Pepper? I swear it was a b3tan.
( Captain V, Tue 16 Jun 2009, 13:52, 24 replies, latest was 16 years ago)

You don't have a good history with Dr Pepper.

( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Tue 16 Jun 2009, 13:56, Reply)

HAHAHAHA!
Oh dear...
( Cawl, Tue 16 Jun 2009, 13:57, Reply)

It might've been me.
I've drunk vodka with most things.

Guava Rubicon and vodka is AWESOME.
( Cawl, Tue 16 Jun 2009, 13:58, Reply)

I started to think so
I thought we might have had a discussion about it in the pub last week but then began to think my memory was making that up.
( Captain V, Tue 16 Jun 2009, 13:59, Reply)

It sounds
Familiar.
( Cawl, Tue 16 Jun 2009, 14:01, Reply)

Guava Rubicon is awesome, no matter what with!
I survived on that, processed cheese and bread for a month in Africa.

I love it so, it's so lovely and sweet. It's nice in non-alcoholic cocktails, I must have funteims with my friend who can make cocktails soon. I miss him.
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Tue 16 Jun 2009, 14:21, Reply)

Ten points to you!
Although I always get the piss ripped out of me for "drinking that fucking pink-gay-stuff again".
I don't care though. It's sexy and awesome.
( Cawl, Tue 16 Jun 2009, 14:36, Reply)

Well laughing that hard has woken me up
Thanks lab. Perhaps Dr. Pepper is a bad idea.
( Captain V, Tue 16 Jun 2009, 13:58, Reply)

CHCB
What did she do to you?
(Bicycle Repairman "you're also a bit of a wanker", Tue 16 Jun 2009, 13:58, Reply)

I blocked out most of the details
Although the words 'The Intestinator' and 'sand as lubricant' still ring in my ears.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Tue 16 Jun 2009, 14:00, Reply)

@PJM
This ^
( Captain V, Tue 16 Jun 2009, 14:01, Reply)

It was not sand,
it was crushed glass. My methods are quite choice.
( crackhouseceilidhband Fuck off back to Mumsnet, Tue 16 Jun 2009, 16:31, Reply)

Dr Pepper and Tequila is yum
Try it
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Tue 16 Jun 2009, 13:58, Reply)

What's the worst that can happen?

( Cawl, Tue 16 Jun 2009, 13:59, Reply)

You could end up taking a shower in Dr. Pepper
:(
( Captain V, Tue 16 Jun 2009, 14:00, Reply)

Sleep patterns are more determined by the time you wake and get up
rather than the time you go to sleep.
Stop dozing, get up as soon as you wake and have a shower.
Cut down on booze caffine and drugs if you do any of those.
After a week or so you'll get tired earlier and you'll sleep better.
(PsychoChomp, Tue 16 Jun 2009, 14:01, Reply)

Maybe but no
It's not booze, caffeine or drugs. Usually I set my alarm for 6:30, get out of bed at 7:30 (I've never, ever been able to get out of bed as soon as my alarm goes off).

Unfortunately it's a lot more complicated than that for me :(

The main problem is that I'm unable to get myself to sleep until I can't keep my eyes open. This time seems to be between 1am and 3am regardless of how tired I've felt during the day. There's more to it than that but I've lots to do and shouldn't be posting on b3ta right now!
( Captain V, Tue 16 Jun 2009, 14:10, Reply)

I had some last week, but don't remember telling anyone.
Apparently, whatever your optimum sleep time is, for every additional hour, is the equivilent to one hour less, in how you feel.

So if you sleep for double you're supposed to at the time, it'll be like getting no sleep.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Tue 16 Jun 2009, 14:15, Reply)

So by sleeping for 3 times my normal amount
I actually had 4 hours of unsleep. Cuntsocks.

I call bullshit on this as I do feel better than when I went to bed.
( Captain V, Tue 16 Jun 2009, 14:17, Reply)

It sounds like bs to me too
Regular exercise will help regulate your sleep patterns. Even gentle exercise should make a difference.
( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Tue 16 Jun 2009, 14:26, Reply)

This^
A perfect sleeping pattern is like.... a table(!??)

Supported by 4 absolute pillars, and perhaps a beermat here or there to make things perfect.

Anyway if you remove a leg/pillar then everything goes tits up.

The four legs are:

Get up at a set time (bit obvious and may hurt to start with but is essential in the long-run)
Exercise. (Body and mind need exercising, so take up a sport or goto the gym and I'd imagine through work your mind gets its fair share. If not read a book before bed)
Diet. As someone has mentioned - Caffeine/Alcohol/Sugar are bad. Drink plenty of water, do not eat a late supper, and generally eat healthy.
Environment - The bedroom should be for sleeping ONLY (apart from light reading perhaps, and maybe sex if you should be so lucky). So no Xbox/PC Games, No television, No eating. Make sure the room is pitch black and is as quiet as possible. Oh and make sure it's not a complete mess - that is bad juju.
( whenanimalsattackhumans clad in global hypercolour, Tue 16 Jun 2009, 14:57, Reply)

Im pretty sure...
That the optimum amount of sleepies is 8 hours because your body goes in cycles. Light sleep - deep sleep - light sleep etc, or some such and if you wake up whilst in a deep sleep section then u feel terrible...

If I did my maths right then 12 hours is perfectly in the middle of a deep sleep cycle and that'd be why you felt worse than normal


But I probably heard all that down the pub, seems to work for me though. If I can sleep exactly 8 hours I feel awsome
(Is this a good idea? ... Yes this is definitely a good idea, Tue 16 Jun 2009, 14:31, Reply)

But the cycle lengths aren't always the same
they differ for different people.

Try measuring when you wake up unprompted, that's the end of a cycle so you've had 1 or 2 cycles probably.

Me, I have 3.5 - 4 hours sleep, get up and feed the cat, go back to bed for another 3-3.5 hours. Seems to work.
( The Light in Chains don't touch the Pope's boner, Tue 16 Jun 2009, 14:53, Reply)

Ahhh
So its not utter bullshit!
(Is this a good idea? ... Yes this is definitely a good idea, Tue 16 Jun 2009, 16:51, Reply)