New coal fire power stations are cleaner than other fossil fuel alternative becuase of:
a) heat and carbon capture technology
b) carbon scrubbing and cleaner coal
c) reduced transport poultion from using easily accessible coal rather than oil or natural gas.
d) cheaper to build and less carbon intensive to build than other fossil fuel power sources.
e) the technology used to build the plants is developed and built in this country, creating jobs, reducing the carbon footprint of the whole project.

it's ignorant to simpy say 'clean coal' what a load of bollocks.
(Richard Earl of Cambridge Cruel, Savage, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 14:47, 5 replies, latest was 16 years ago)

CleanER, yes.
Clean? No.

Time to build some nuclear plants anyway. They should spend money explaining to the public how they actually work so they're not shit-scared of them.
( Cawl, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 14:49, Reply)

Yes.
Nuclear power stations FTW.
( crackhouseceilidhband Fuck off back to Mumsnet, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 14:50, Reply)

Very fucking this^ (Kaol's post)
IIRC the UK spends more money on mobile phone ringtones than nuclear fusion research...
( Captain V, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 14:51, Reply)

this makes me turn green, develop large eyebrows and grow too a huge size, tearing all of my clothes apart from my shorts

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 15:03, Reply)

Define clean
No powerplant is totally clean.
(Richard Earl of Cambridge Cruel, Savage, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 14:54, Reply)

If that's the case why are you defending calling it clean coal?

( Captain V, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 14:55, Reply)

In that case: clean coal...what a load of bollocks.
(Flid James carry on, mongs, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 14:55, Reply)

No need to define it,
You just said it yourself.
No powerplant is totally clean.
Which is why "clean coal" is such a retarded statement.
( Cawl, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 14:56, Reply)

Let's not make this a sixth form semantic argument.
Clean coal power stations -v- not clean coal power stations.

Clean coal power stations are real, clean and our best option for cutting down on carbon emissions at the national grid level right now.
(Richard Earl of Cambridge Cruel, Savage, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 14:58, Reply)

Yes
But the majority of people wont understand that. They'll here "clean" and think it must be ok and have no drawbacks at all.
( Captain V, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 15:00, Reply)

It's not my fault people are ignorant retards.
It's a good thing the decisions will be made by intelligent people, after the next general election, at least.
(Richard Earl of Cambridge Cruel, Savage, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 15:02, Reply)

You are Ed Milliband AICMFP.

( girlinthehole, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 15:04, Reply)

Ooooo
Clairvoyance, nice.

So instead of trying to make sure people understand properly you'd delibertately ignore the ability of your audience to comprehend what you're saying. Great fucking lot of good you'd be.
( Captain V, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 15:04, Reply)

Watch out V
your retardation retarbation will know no bounds in a minute
(Bazongaloid, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 15:06, Reply)

What does it matter if Mrs Goggins the spastic's wife understands anything about where her energy comes from?
as long as its better for her.
(Richard Earl of Cambridge Cruel, Savage, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 15:11, Reply)

That's the problem with people isn't it
they always want to know stuff, WHY CANT THEY JUST DO WHAT I SAY! The country would be so much better if all those fucking whiners just accepted everything that was told to them by those lovely government types.
(Bazongaloid, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 15:13, Reply)

Oh no, I don't want clean coal
That sounds like witchcraft.

Fuck the fact that Africa will die, can't have this new fangled clean coal.

This is what you sound like to me, you awful penis.
(Richard Earl of Cambridge Cruel, Savage, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 15:15, Reply)

You are The Goat aren't you.
Go on, admit it. Call me a mouses fart too, I liked that.
(Bazongaloid, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 15:16, Reply)

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you awful penis
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( Cawl, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 15:17, Reply)

is cutting down the carbon emissions the real issue though?
running out of fossil fuels and therefore energy is the more demanding concern I would've thought, and nuclear fission in the short-term and fusion in the long are the most sensible answers to this.

particularly given how our delightfully abundant source of tidal energy is for all intents and purposes overlooked.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 15:30, Reply)

Of course they aren't
but there are ways of producing electricity that are orders of magnitude more environmentally friendly than others.

The fact is we are going to get lumbered with coal power stations, which have a life of say 50 years, due to pretending there wasn't a problem with our power generation for decades until at the last minute we don't actually have a choice but to plump for something we've done before.

Just because it's easy to build, doesn't make it the best choice.
(Bazongaloid, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 14:57, Reply)

I want to make you eat coal right now.
Your retardation knows no bounds.
(Richard Earl of Cambridge Cruel, Savage, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 14:59, Reply)

Let's not make this a sixth form semantic argument.
sixth form semantic primary school playground
(Flid James carry on, mongs, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 15:06, Reply)

Clean coal is a stupid political phrase though,
It's the oversimplification of a complex issue that's annoying.
(PsychoChomp, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 14:50, Reply)

Erm
False dichotomy anyone?
( Captain V, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 14:52, Reply)

I'm ok thanks,
I've got coffee.
( Cawl, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 14:52, Reply)

Any biscuits?

(Bazongaloid, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 14:54, Reply)

I fucking wish.
I did have a mint Feast at lunch, in the park. That was great.
( Cawl, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 14:57, Reply)

I think point D pretty much sums it up
"less carbon intensive to build than other fossil fuel power sources"

We shouldn't be using fossil fuel power sources. We have plenty of Uranium in this country.
(Bazongaloid, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 14:53, Reply)

Nuclear power is far less clean than new coal technology
As I said, you don't know anything about it.
(Richard Earl of Cambridge Cruel, Savage, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 14:55, Reply)

You really are a stupid cunt aren't you
you don't know anything about what I do or don't know.

I made a fairly blasé statement about Ed Milibands stupid cunt face and talking about clean coal in the same way as wind power and suddenly I don't know anything about it and you're the expert.
(Bazongaloid, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 14:59, Reply)

Don't get upset with me becuase of your ignorance.
read a book or something.
(Richard Earl of Cambridge Cruel, Savage, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 15:00, Reply)

This is excellent internetting.
Wild assumptions? Check.
Accusations of retardery, while not giving any reasons as to why you should be listened to above others? Check.
A general sense of smugness? Check.

Actually. Scrub all that. You *must* be a meat puppet.
( Devil_In_Tights the *real* DiT!, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 15:10, Reply)

Al's boyfriend is here.
O goody.
(Richard Earl of Cambridge Cruel, Savage, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 15:12, Reply)

Hmmmmm
it's almost as if you want people here to like you.
(Bazongaloid, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 15:13, Reply)

I don't really mind what people think
but I'm going to speak my mind when capital crimes against people with brains are chewed, swalloed and digested by the herd.
(Richard Earl of Cambridge Cruel, Savage, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 15:16, Reply)

Excellent humour, there!
Wow, well done. I mean really. You totally told me. Wow. I said something against you, and you call me a gay! LOL! Well done.
( Devil_In_Tights the *real* DiT!, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 15:21, Reply)

you awful penis

( Cawl, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 15:22, Reply)

I'm willing to bet a million pounds that you have no fucking idea what you're talking about.

( Captain V, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 14:54, Reply)

Ask me anything about green energy.
Anything you like.
(Richard Earl of Cambridge Cruel, Savage, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 14:56, Reply)

Whay's it called "green energy"?
Isn't electricity blue?
( Cawl, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 14:57, Reply)

Haha
=D
( Captain V, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 14:59, Reply)

What can we do about the threat wind turbines pose to bats and the like?

( Captain V, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 14:58, Reply)

I can answer that.
If it can't.
( Cawl, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 14:59, Reply)

Gaz me
Interested to know if you're thinking what I'm thinking.
( Captain V, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 15:01, Reply)

Done.

( Cawl, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 15:05, Reply)

The perceived threat that has been invented by Defra to give them something to do, rather than finger their arses all day.
Given that most proposed windfarms are offshore for starters, and that the evidence of the 'low pressure' fucking bats up is not exactly rigorous I wouldn't do a damn thing.

This is also the opinion of most of the heads of environmental charities.
The real issue with wind technology is that it's all new and there isn't any real incentive to research it along with solar power becuase the goverment has provided no incentives.
(Richard Earl of Cambridge Cruel, Savage, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 15:08, Reply)

The "Low Pressure" isn't the real issue here.
A giant fan-blade is more likely to fuck a bat up.

There are a whole lot of suggestions as to how to prevent this. None have been put in to action, as far as I'm aware.
( Cawl, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 15:10, Reply)

Me! Me! I have a question!!
Why should I give a rat's ass about green energy? And also, why would I ever want to pay more for it?
( crackhouseceilidhband Fuck off back to Mumsnet, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 14:59, Reply)

'cos it's a pretty colour!

( Cawl, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 15:00, Reply)

it does match my teeth nicely.
*preens*
( crackhouseceilidhband Fuck off back to Mumsnet, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 15:01, Reply)

Why can't we harness the power of smugness?
There's enough on here to power a small city.
( girlinthehole, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 15:02, Reply)

Haha!
Vipros could power Devon, Cornwall, Wales and Ireland.
( Cawl, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 15:05, Reply)

I wouldn't power Wales though
I lived there for too long. they don't deserve it.

plus, they've got loads of coal. they can use that.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 15:23, Reply)

But I'm moving there, you awful penis.

( Cawl, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 15:24, Reply)

you're just going to have to start digging then

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 15:25, Reply)

I wish I could only use electricity generated in nuclear power stations
From a supplier that invests heavily in nuclear research .
( Captain V, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 15:02, Reply)

I wish mine came from you running round in a hamster wheel.

( thealternativefact, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 15:04, Reply)

Office LoL.

( girlinthehole, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 15:06, Reply)

Yes.
Next time you're here, let's go visiting the nuclear power stations along the Severn. We're only 11 miles from Oldbury.

Edit: but yes to clendrix's idea also.
( crackhouseceilidhband Fuck off back to Mumsnet, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 15:04, Reply)

I like this idea a lot

( Captain V, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 15:06, Reply)

Oldbury, Berkeley, Hinkley Point A and Hinkley Point B.
We'll take a picnic.
( crackhouseceilidhband Fuck off back to Mumsnet, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 15:08, Reply)

because sometimes the individual has to pay for the good of the country.

(PsychoChomp, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 15:05, Reply)

fuck the country.

( crackhouseceilidhband Fuck off back to Mumsnet, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 15:06, Reply)

Steady on!
That'll take weeks.
( thealternativefact, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 15:12, Reply)

I'm at least two-thirds of the way through.

( crackhouseceilidhband Fuck off back to Mumsnet, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 15:14, Reply)

Have you done the tramp in the park outside my window yet?

( thealternativefact, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 15:15, Reply)

you get him warmed up
and I'll be round to finish him off.
( crackhouseceilidhband Fuck off back to Mumsnet, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 15:19, Reply)

You forgot to factor in the birth-rate.

( Cawl, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 15:15, Reply)

you awful penis

( Cawl, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 15:19, Reply)

You really need to vote Conservative.

(Richard Earl of Cambridge Cruel, Savage, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 15:09, Reply)

No. They're too smug.
And that isn't an answer to my question(s).
( crackhouseceilidhband Fuck off back to Mumsnet, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 15:10, Reply)

Still waiting for answers

( Captain V, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 15:07, Reply)

Oh just read a book or something V

(Bazongaloid, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 15:07, Reply)

Sorry I can't
I'm too much of a retard to understand books.
( Captain V, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 15:08, Reply)

I don't understand any of it but I know when someone is being a pillock.

( girlinthehole, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 15:17, Reply)

you awful penis

( Cawl, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 15:18, Reply)