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(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 18:58, 160 replies, latest was 16 years ago)
Aaaaalreet Gonz?
It's snowing. Hard.
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 19:00, Reply)
Im not to shabby, but something has been plauging my mind for a few days now.
You know in films and telly shows, when a character breaks a tooth (or takes one out), how do they do that? I mean, the teeth are even and look right, but there is a hole missing, even in the close ups you can see through.

How do they do that?
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 19:06, Reply)
I've often wondered that myself
And I have no idea. I did try and look really closely during The Hangover but couldn't work it out.
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 19:13, Reply)
actors never have teeth
they wear fake ones for each role, just in case they have to take one out
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 19:15, Reply)
Special effects
It's all CGI innit?
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 19:16, Reply)
Fucking CGI!
I was hoping it would be some arcane trick of the trade.

Anyway, evening DG!
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 19:18, Reply)
'ning Beekers
How goes it?
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 19:23, Reply)
Not bad at all.
Back to Scotland on Monday for a nice chilled-out Christmas. This'll be the longest break I've had in seven or eight years.

You got everything sorted for Chrimbo your end?
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 19:28, Reply)
Just about.
Off up to Edinburgh tomorrow for Saturday/Sunday, then a glorious 2 weeks off. Sweet.
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 19:33, Reply)
Nice!
2 weeks off for me as well. Cracking open a nice bottle of red and downloading some shit for me this evening. Wildhearts gig tomorrow.
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 19:41, Reply)
I really don't think it's that.
I'm quite good at spotting that kind of thing normally.
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 19:22, Reply)
Nah
Definitely CGI mate. Everything's CGI these days. Even politics.
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 19:24, Reply)
Even relativly low budget stuff, like Holyoaks, do it perfect each time.

(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 19:31, Reply)
yeah alright, totally heatwarming, listening to country
you alright?
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 19:01, Reply)
I'm at my mums for some TLC, I think I'm going to have a bath later.
I need to work out what to have for dinner though, I think I fancy Chinese or something like that. It's a friday, I'm allowed a chinese today.

I had a McDonalds for lunch, it was grim, I didn't even eat half of it.
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 19:08, Reply)
You can have your McChristmas Dinner at Mc Donalds if you want.
In each restaurant they have reserved a special room for their customers to slit their own wrists afterwards.
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 19:11, Reply)
Have you noticed how their "Special" burger that they have, like the 'american', 'festive', blah blah, ranges....
... are identical each time? I mean, it's always a burger with a bit of fake bacon, or in a special bread or something.

They put up the sign outside my new Subway today, I can't wait for them to finish inventing it.
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 19:13, Reply)
Well...It is McDonalds,
Haut Cuisine starts and ends with a "patty". Perhaps in UK we could have them called Cow Patties?
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 19:16, Reply)
McDonalds is quite bleh
there's a dog in my office, Gonz. He's sitting on a chair being all cute and lovely and fluffy
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 19:20, Reply)
PHOTOS !

(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 19:21, Reply)
he's fucked off elsewhere
it was a pomeranian
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 19:42, Reply)
Aww, they're whicked dogs.
Is that the one Clare's Mum has? (from Heroes)
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 19:53, Reply)
I....I don't know...I don't watch Heroes

(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 19:55, Reply)
no
i am poorly

need to get better by tomorrow
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 19:02, Reply)
Yep
I've just returned from the company Crimble lunch at a spanish place in Windsor Station. Not very christmassy, but seeing as I had to drive home, I had to stay sober.

Drinking starts now.
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 19:08, Reply)
Mixed bag really - spent a lovely day in France for my work do
but didn't get the promotion and have another stinking cold. Bah.
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 19:21, Reply)
sad times
*offers Christmas tea*
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 19:36, Reply)
It's all experience
Go for it next time armed with what you've learned and see what happens.
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 19:41, Reply)
thanks I'll remember that

(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 19:42, Reply)
I was aiming for Maladicta but missed
But yes, it's worth remembering. Possibly.
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 19:45, Reply)
you were aiming for another girl but hit me instead
that tends to happen a lot :/
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 19:48, Reply)
But at least you get hit
Just don't see second best syndrome as a stigma.
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 19:54, Reply)
It's usually me who's second best, so I'm quite surprised.

(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 20:01, Reply)
Second best
Is a long way from worst.

Except in cricket - as in "We had to rely on a fucking freak innings from Swann today to keep us only marginally second best."
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 20:09, Reply)
I'm afraid to say I don't speak cricket :(

(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 20:15, Reply)
You're not missing much
Just another demolition.
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 20:20, Reply)
It's never made any sense to me
- just looks like a more complicated version of rounders, which I hated at school (girls weren't allowed to play cricket).
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 20:24, Reply)
Aye, they said it was very close - I only missed out by a couple of points which makes it all the more gutting.
I badly needed that extra couple of grand a year! They have given me A Project instead, though, and I now run my own little department, so I've not lost out completely, I just didn't have the complaints experience needed. Bah.
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 19:47, Reply)
How much experience do you need to deal with complaints?
All you need to do is the opposite of what you've experienced when you've complained and been treated like shit.
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 19:57, Reply)
To go into our customer service policy requires diagrams and all kinds of complicated stuff.
We are all about making them get the warm and fuzzies, and sadly I've spent too long minding envelopes and not long enough listening to them complain.
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 19:59, Reply)
*gulps down Christmas tea and asks for more* thank you love :)
Blocked nose is definitely sad times.
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 19:47, Reply)
tea!
oooh its lovely
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 19:54, Reply)
Tea cures all ills, no matter their cause.

(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 19:56, Reply)
I was suffering from cronic public transport use syndrome
then a cup of strong tea fixed my ills
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 20:08, Reply)
Fortunately getting a bus an hour later than I usually would
solved all my public transport woes - no Crazy Staring Lady and no Man Who Smells Of Wee.
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 20:13, Reply)
Im alright.
extra day with the g/f as her mum cant pick her up for Christmas yet.
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 19:44, Reply)
Aite, G-Dog?
Just on a train, tearing crawling through the countryside, anticipating arriving to a nice pint in a country pub. Maybe ribs will be involved, who knows?
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 19:44, Reply)
I'd say you need to make ribs a definite thing.

(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 19:48, Reply)
Oh, and the tooth thing depends on budget.
Hollywood -CGI, or maybe they are lucky and the actor already lost a tooth, or the actor is a method actor who removes it intentionally...

TV - could be cgi, but most likely a prosthetic tooth for close ups and blacked out for distance shots.

I guess.
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 19:51, Reply)
That makes sense,
And as far as the method acting goes, is presumably why Daniel Day Lewis has never played an amputee.
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 19:53, Reply)
IT'S FUCKING CGI, RIGHT?????

(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 19:55, Reply)
You're CGI.
And so's your finger.
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 19:57, Reply)
FUCKING RIGHT!
Er...
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 19:59, Reply)
:D
What I figured, I'd just rather it was some other artistry.
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 19:58, Reply)
Toothless stunt doubles, I reckon
Shane McGowan has a glittering Hollywood career beckoning.
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 20:00, Reply)
Hmm, deffo the black-out for long shots.
But I just can't see someone like Hollyoaks doing that.

Maybe they have fake teeth'n'gums to put over their real teeth, like the "Goofy Redneck teeth" things that was popular a few years ago, I suppose that might work if stretch your lips down far enough.
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 20:19, Reply)
Sounds good to me, I'm lookin' foward to tomorow.
I think I have to do myself some ribs soon, I love me a baby-back.
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 20:16, Reply)
Evening all.
Braved the cold and ice and nipped out to my local corner shop to pick up a bottle of red with a screw cap rather than searching for a corkscrew in the shit tip that is my flat for the nice bottle I got off my boss.

Messy young 'un housemates!
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 19:51, Reply)
Evenin' Beeks.
Young whippersnappers, eh? They all need haircuts and a good beating and maybe something rational like NATIONAL SERVICE. Then they'll know to leave the corkscrew where they found it!

And how to kill a man
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 19:54, Reply)
Yup,
I'm all for national service now I'm past the age I'd have to do it.

I've got at least 6 years on everyone I live with now and I'm bored being the only one doing the cleaning. Even more guttingly, my girlfriend's moving back to London and I can't quite afford the shared flat with one other scrupulously clean bloke she's leaving behind.
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 19:57, Reply)
How to kill the man who moved the corkscrew.

(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 20:04, Reply)
Or woman
No misogyny in my house :)
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 20:07, Reply)
An equal opportunity massacre!
Yes, this is the way forward.
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 20:08, Reply)
Only fair
Er....
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 20:10, Reply)
Well, if you must kill people for nicking your corkscrews,
you may as well make it fair, right?
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 20:14, Reply)
It's just buried under lots of clutter.
But yes, heads will roll. Heads will roll.
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 20:23, Reply)
I have one, I never use it.
All my wine has screw-top bottles!
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 20:27, Reply)
Mock me why don't you?
Ah well, just the one bottle for me this evening.
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 20:30, Reply)
Nah, just happens to be the way it turns out... I'm not strong enough to get a cork out a lot of the time.
Tonight though the only drinks I want are hot... we had snow this morning when I got up and it was -1 in France.
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 20:41, Reply)
Same
I don't like wine enough to pay more than around a fiver.

/nudges blossom hill with one toe
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 20:37, Reply)
I'm gagging for some mulled wine right now.
I wanted to get some in Lille but my last 6€ went on a rather fetching beret.
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 20:43, Reply)
I have half a loaf of bread, a little cheese, marmite and 9 cans of diet coke to last me til Sunday.
I'll be fine. I hope.
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 20:46, Reply)
You'll be fine hun :) if in doubt, cheese on toast alternating with Marmite.

(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 21:08, Reply)
burned my hand making a sandwich
I think I win in the being-shit-stakes.
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 20:19, Reply)
If it makes you feel better
I set my hand on fire with a cocktail a few months back.
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 20:24, Reply)
I opened my absinthe again last night
I forgot the spout had partially melted due to some twat lighting the stuff while pouring it.
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 20:33, Reply)
Making a SANDWICH?
Girl, I hope to God it was a toasted sandwich, or you need to go home to your mum's right now, and never go out without her ever again...
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 20:35, Reply)
Hello you :)
I was using frozen bread, so had to toast it (in the toaster), but then put marmite and cheese on and grilled it.

My god, I should be like Gonz and start a food blog
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 20:36, Reply)
Start an accident blog instead
I don't think you'll be short of material.
On the day's you're injury-free, I'll stand in ;)
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 20:38, Reply)
My ex was meant to come over today
for a chat. No, really, just a chat. If we get through seeing each other without fucking (which has never happened - unless you count the times where we were just all over each other before we first fucked) it would be a turning point.
He can't make it, and I'm upset, but I understand. I was thinking it would just be supremely awkward.

Though I secretly hoped it would descend into fucking :(
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 20:43, Reply)
Dude. Don't.
Listen to your aunty Roota.
I'm glad he can't make it. I hope he never makes it again, because left to you the fucking might go on forever.
And it'll never be more than fucking.
And don't pretend you don't want more.
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 20:46, Reply)
I don't REALLY want to fuck him.
Part of me wants "one last time", but we're both saying no at the mo. What I fear is that he'll crumble (as he's done so many times in the past) and ask me again. But in those situations I've always said I'd fuck him no matter what. I hope that now I'm saying no, for once, he won't ask.

Where have all the good men gone?
/was playing last night at Truffle Shuffle, 80s night extraordinaire in a club named after an archbishop
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 20:49, Reply)
They're off with girls with better standards than you and me
Keep away from him.
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 20:51, Reply)
He'll keep away from me, don't worry.
And you're not my aunty, surely. More older sister?
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 20:52, Reply)
I just checked your age
I'm your aunty and no mistake.
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 20:57, Reply)
My average guessed age at the bash was 23.
Averaged guessed age everywhere, actually.

This smoking is prematurely aging me :(
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 20:58, Reply)
Shut up
You look like an infant.
Do you like Werther's?
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 21:02, Reply)
LIES.
I don't really. But I do love Clarnico's Mint Creams. They're quite grannyish.
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 21:07, Reply)
*takes note*

(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 21:10, Reply)
The Disappointed GF has just rung me
She's out on her work xmas event.

Her department head has just chucked up all over the table.

One of her female colleagues is wandering around the restuarant topless with her flabby tits wobbling all over the place.

This is the History faculty of Leeds University.

Fuckin' students....
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 20:39, Reply)
Christ almighty
It's like Caligula!
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 20:41, Reply)
They probably see it in those terms
Or at least they will in the morning.

La TD is not too sober and skidded onto her arse in the snow when she went out for a tab and to ring me.

EDIT - not sure about the incest potential though.
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 20:45, Reply)
At least she's ringing you
Which means she ain't carrying on woeful like that lot.
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 20:47, Reply)
Give her time
I mined those nuggets of information from six minutes of giggling.

This is the history department - all I expect them to do is say "See that snot on the pavement - that's your dad, that is."
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 20:54, Reply)
"You know those tents they put up when they're fixing the telephone cables..."

(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 20:57, Reply)
That's your house, that is
Fucking classic comedy.
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 20:59, Reply)
Why can't you get The Mary Whitehouse Experience on DVD?
:(
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 21:03, Reply)
I've not tried - can't you?
When I first met la TD and she told me what she did I was SOOO tempted to do one of those lines but I thought "no, she's heard that 395,000 times".

But she hadn't. And that's a lot of ice-breaking sweet-talk I've wasted.

I'm going to have a look for Mary Whitehouse Experience stuff to buy now.
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 21:13, Reply)
You cannot
I'm assuming it's because Newman and Baddiel fell out big time or something. (I saw them on the History Today tour. *sigh*)
There's a campaign on to get it released.
My mate reckons he has most on his computer but he's not yielding.
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 21:21, Reply)
So it appears
I've been trying on Amazon.

Further giggling update is that someone else has projectile vomited and giggle giggle giggle.

TD "Are you staying with Clare tonight?"

LTD "Giggle giggle burp"

TD "Am I picking you up tomorrow?"

LTD "Tee hee hee burp"

I don't know what that means but I'm sure she'll be fine.
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 21:30, Reply)
Bless her!
Will she be ill tomorrow?
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 21:31, Reply)
I expect so
Will I be sympathetic tomorrow? No.

I've stayed sober tonight, expecting to have to drive into town and pick her up.

I've foregone a redundancy party for six of my staff to do so.

She's staying with Clare. The wine is open.
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 21:40, Reply)
Don't be cross
It all worked out. You have had a reprieve from driving into town and you're on the vino. All is good.
And Clare, well, nobody ever comes to harm when they're with a Clare. Exspecially spelt that way.
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 21:42, Reply)
I'm guessing on the spelling.
My very very first girlfriend (1983) was called Clare with that spelling so it's a sort of default setting.

Not sure about the wine though. Two gobfuls and I'm feeling like I'm ready for bed.
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 21:46, Reply)
Oh, be wary of her until you know whether there's an 'i' or not...

(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 21:47, Reply)
She's putting la TD up for the night.
I can't really ring and say "Hey! If she's got an I in her name you get the last train home girl."
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 21:58, Reply)
Hahah
I know. I just like to pretend Claires with an 'i' are untrustworthy.
WHICH THEY ARE!!!!
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 22:02, Reply)
Should I be worried?
On a scale of 1-10, how worried?

It's snowing again here. A glass of wine isn't over the limit. I have a 4 wheel drive car.

Should I dash through the blizzard to rescue la TD from the evil intentions of Claire with an i, or should I post more shite, try and persuade my kitties that it's too cold to go out, finish the bottle and go to bed?
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 22:11, Reply)
You stay in
She'll be fine. Tell the kitties to stay in too.
I mean, i or no i, at least she's not a Lynsey...
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 22:14, Reply)
I can't be doing with this Frank Lloyd Wright stuff.
Get over here where it's cosy
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 22:17, Reply)
Hey yes.
I'm a bit down the page, just after Blaireau.
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 22:20, Reply)
So long,
Frank Lloyd Wright.
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 22:22, Reply)
Ain't many people
Know who Frank Lloyd Wright was.

Thanks.
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 22:26, Reply)
Evening Gadgee!
fettle?
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 20:47, Reply)
Topper

(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 20:57, Reply)
Are we over here yet?
Lets see.
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 22:18, Reply)
Oh god.
Ours, with a photo of my lady boss's cleavage ("get yours out too Maladicta, we'll have a competition"), suddenly seems a lot more civilised...
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 20:42, Reply)
Drink!
Our works do is tomorrow night - I'm not going because I probably won't make it back the 25miles from venue to home if it continues to snow like it has.

Also - the fact that a large group of Train Drivers, in a room with a free bar and the knowledge none of us has to work for the next few days means that there will be at least one fight, several people being sick and the evening will end with someone getting very close to being arrested and stuck in the cells for the night.

On second thoughts... I might find a way to turn up...
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 21:42, Reply)
What is it with railway staff and alcohol?
We're shocking; 25% of the budget goes on food and ice sculptures and the rest on the booze...
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 22:31, Reply)
It's these things that make me feel better about all of the stupid things I've done when drunk

(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 20:43, Reply)
Hiya Gonz
Nigel Havers is on fuckin Corrie!!
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 20:43, Reply)
I could never get into that show.
I'm watchin' Heston Bloomingtile at the moment, he's fucking amazing.
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 21:16, Reply)
Corrie's shit
But sometimes I watch it for comfort
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 21:25, Reply)
Emmerdale FTW
It's so shit it's hilarious.

I've become quite the Emmerdale fan recently for the irony value and discovered that the fanclub meeting:-

www.emmerdale.net/

is in a hotel about five miles from me.
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 21:35, Reply)
Don't go!
Pigs eat everything. They won't even find your bones.

The programme on ITV right now is so shit. But last week there was Adam Garcia in a school uniform and this week he HAD to take his t-shirt off to fix a leak, then got sprayed with water on his naked torso.
I can't change channels.
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 21:38, Reply)
I don't think
That the Emmerdale animals are allowed into the fan club party.

Unless they wear ties, obviously.

There is a conspicuous lack of creatures generally on Emmerdale - it's not Emmerdale Farm any more, see.

There is a vet, but he just goes about drinking and looking greasy.
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 21:49, Reply)
Course it's Emmerdale Farm
I like nothing better than settling down after cleaning up with the Jif, putting some Oil of Ulay on my face, and cracking open the Opal Fruits and Marathons, then watching Emmerdale Farm.
No?
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 22:19, Reply)
I drive home
In my Cortina especially to watch it.

And if I could grow Amos sideburns I'd die an even happier man than I already am.
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 22:23, Reply)
I'm getting a crick
So I'll talk about ol' Frank here.
I don't know millions about him.
I think the guy who designed lots of Liverpool tenement blocks may have been influenced by him,but I never got round to checking the dates.
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 22:32, Reply)
He was the man
Who first established how to build upwards. He developed the principle of skyscrapers.

He also designed the Tribune building in Chicago which is the most stunning bit of architecture I've ever seen.

Of greater immediate significance is that little kitty has got out and will be very cold. I need to lure her back in.
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 22:40, Reply)
Put some butter in the microwave til it's runny and waft it out of the door
EDIT: and where I'm from was based on the Karl Marx-Hof complex, but always reminded me of the Guggenheim.
Most people laugh when I tell them this.
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 22:42, Reply)
You're just on the right
After the tech college, heading via Kensington to Old Swan.

Am I right? I navigate Liverpool by pubs.

Little kitty is still out but at least tonight the catflap isn't frozen solid like it was last night.

No more giggling updates.
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 22:53, Reply)
Aw my tenements aren't there any more.
Very similar to Myrtle Gardens/Minster Court near the Oxford Pub, behind the uni. Both the work of Sir Lancelot Keay.
1930s.Very pretty and art deco at points and in their day. But not like that in the 1980s!
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 22:58, Reply)
Think I roughly know where you are
The Oxford is a big, angular Georgian boozer. I think.

Anyway - I'm far more concerned about little kitty now, who must have scuttled out when I was having a tab on the doorstep. She's never encountered snow before so she's probably a bit confused.

'Night.
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 23:16, Reply)
Dude I hope she hurries home
She'll be fine though because cats are wellard.
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 23:20, Reply)
Right!
Little kitty is back home.

Giggling person is in the back of a car going to Clare/Claire's house.

I'm not worried about the spelling; it'll be fine and now I can go to bed.
(, Fri 18 Dec 2009, 23:55, Reply)

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