No i'm not suggesting that
that's why I made a point of saying "I'm not suggesting people who pay get special treatment" I'm merely pointing out that it's slightly hypocritical for people to get all self righteous about not getting criticised on their website when they don't contribute to it's upkeep.

I don't think the criticism is unwarranted or particularly harsh but some people do, and if the mods think it is unduly harsh then certainly they should step in regardless of who is making the criticism, but I think the people who moan ought to really stump up some readies for the site before they get on their high horses too much.
(Bazongaloid, Fri 29 Jan 2010, 13:15, 2 replies, latest was 16 years ago)

I think the B3tans who donate should get a gold star and a guided tour round Rob's house.
And maybe a go on his Mrs.
( girlinthehole, Fri 29 Jan 2010, 13:21, Reply)

I think that's very personal and below the belt.
I'll just have a go on Rob instead.
( Sunburn Go on.... It's character building!, Fri 29 Jan 2010, 13:24, Reply)

Threesome then?

( girlinthehole, Fri 29 Jan 2010, 13:27, Reply)

All-riiight!
Who's turn is it to be the gimp?
( Sunburn Go on.... It's character building!, Fri 29 Jan 2010, 13:29, Reply)

*raises hand*

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 29 Jan 2010, 13:40, Reply)

so your saying that if they had donated money,
thye would be more justified in getting upset about being critisised?
( Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Fri 29 Jan 2010, 13:29, Reply)

but at the same time
people who have paid money shouldn't get special treatment.
( Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Fri 29 Jan 2010, 13:32, Reply)

i don't mind if you are saying that,
just please, don't tell me you're not saying that when you are.
( Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Fri 29 Jan 2010, 13:33, Reply)

Don't argue with Al or he'll turn everything you say into a meme.

( girlinthehole, Fri 29 Jan 2010, 13:36, Reply)

he'll be justified in doing that because he has donated though.
not that donating means you should get special privelages.
( Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Fri 29 Jan 2010, 13:37, Reply)

But I'm not saying there should different treatment
I'm simply saying that people moaning about a website they don't pay for ought to make a contribution.
(Bazongaloid, Fri 29 Jan 2010, 13:37, Reply)

how can you not see yourself contradicting yourself here?
*boggles*
( Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Fri 29 Jan 2010, 13:37, Reply)

What contradiction?
1. People get upset and the mods step in. If their upsetment is justified then mods take action. This is fine.
2. If people are getting very involved with the website they ought to really pay, if they don't I don't think it should affect the way the mods deal with any concerns they raise, but it would be nice if they chipped in.
(Bazongaloid, Fri 29 Jan 2010, 13:39, Reply)

you are saying, again, that chipping in will justify their behaviour in some way.

( Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Fri 29 Jan 2010, 13:41, Reply)

which is also what you are saying that you are not saying.

( Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Fri 29 Jan 2010, 13:41, Reply)

however much you try and change the wording
or wriggle away from what you originally said.
( Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Fri 29 Jan 2010, 13:42, Reply)

Hello SSG

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 29 Jan 2010, 13:43, Reply)

DID YOU THREATEN TO OVERRULE HIM

( Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Fri 29 Jan 2010, 13:45, Reply)

I'LL ASK YOU AGAIN

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 29 Jan 2010, 13:49, Reply)

best bit of telly ever.

( Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Fri 29 Jan 2010, 13:49, Reply)

Better than when Frank Butcher
was wearing nothing but a bow tie?
(Bazongaloid, Fri 29 Jan 2010, 13:53, Reply)

Nothing can top the Frank Butcher spinning bow tie incident.

( Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Fri 29 Jan 2010, 13:58, Reply)

that's pretty good.
i'll give you that.
( Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Fri 29 Jan 2010, 14:01, Reply)

My head hurts

( Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Fri 29 Jan 2010, 13:54, Reply)

Mine does too but it's not allowed because I haven't paid
and a headache could be construed as special treatment, oh, wait, only those who have shouldn't receive special treatment so does that mean because I haven't paid I'm special?

I'm confused. I will pay up tonight.
(MichaelS wasn't picked again, Fri 29 Jan 2010, 15:25, Reply)

it took me a while
and I can see why you are saying that, but that isn't quite what he is saying

the gist is, if someone is on here enough to get involved enough to be whinging, then they should contribute.

similarly, if someone were on here enough to applaud someone posting all the time.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 29 Jan 2010, 13:43, Reply)

i just like being paxman.

( Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Fri 29 Jan 2010, 13:45, Reply)

you are doing a bang up job

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 29 Jan 2010, 13:46, Reply)

i give up.
there is a fundamental contradiction in the point, and he has whittled his point down to that which is now irrelevant.
( Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Fri 29 Jan 2010, 13:47, Reply)

Alright last word on the subject
there isn't a contradiction in the point.

The original point I raised is that people who moan pay money, people who over-react to moaning don't pay money. That's all I said.

I have since gone on to say that everyone should pay some money toward the site in order to keep it running.
(Bazongaloid, Fri 29 Jan 2010, 13:49, Reply)

I am going to appear awfully rude here but I would really rather you answered a simple yes or no question,
did you threaten to overrule him?
( Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Fri 29 Jan 2010, 14:01, Reply)

still funny

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 29 Jan 2010, 14:07, Reply)

I got totally sucked in there
I really should follow my own advice more often
(Bazongaloid, Fri 29 Jan 2010, 13:47, Reply)

but did you threaten to overrule him?

( Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Fri 29 Jan 2010, 13:49, Reply)

in off
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 29 Jan 2010, 13:49, Reply)

I could have made this clearer in the original post

(Bazongaloid, Fri 29 Jan 2010, 13:37, Reply)

so you are saying there
that they are justified to whinge
as long as they donate.
but also that donating
does not alter
what people are allowed to do?
( Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Fri 29 Jan 2010, 13:39, Reply)

I'm so dizzy my head is spinning.

( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Fri 29 Jan 2010, 13:41, Reply)

like a whirlpool
it never ends?
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 29 Jan 2010, 13:43, Reply)

I'm not condoing the people complaining about the tedious lies
I accept the argument that everyone is entitled to post what they want.

I think the people that have got their knickers in a twist about the people who complained about the tedious lies have massively over-reacted. However, the mods are there to act as adjudicators and have done so in a reasonably fair manner. Well done mods.

In a separate issue it's interesting to note that the people who complained are the people who have icons and the people who over reacted don't have icons. I think the people who don't have icons ought to contribute some money to the website as it's a fun place to read and post stuff and keeping it going makes me happy.
(Bazongaloid, Fri 29 Jan 2010, 13:43, Reply)

SO THE VERY CRUX of your argument, Mr Geordie
IS NOT IN FACT the ideology that which you originally intended forthwith and fluent truantwithstanding but THE VERY SAME MAN WHO SHOT YOUR OWN MOTHER?!
( Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Fri 29 Jan 2010, 13:46, Reply)

I will pay up tonight when I get home from work (or tomorrow).
When I pay does that make it ok for me to complain that the people that have got their knickers in a twist about the people who have got their knickers in a twist about the people who complained about the tedious lies have massively over-reacted?

This is getting fun!
(MichaelS wasn't picked again, Fri 29 Jan 2010, 15:30, Reply)