ah Devon
wonderful place

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/7358039/Sex-dungeon-found-in-sleepy-Devon-village.html
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 14:19, 105 replies, latest was 16 years ago)

"We are glad to have disturbed this activity and restored normality to the neighbourhood. We would also like to thank residents who reported the activity to us."

Er, why? They're doing no harm to anybody but the willing.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 14:22, Reply)

it's because people are uptight

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 14:23, Reply)

But how do the police have the right to stop them?
if it's not a brothel and they can't prove anybody's taking money for sex?
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 14:26, Reply)

I'd assume
that there were things there that would cause ABH/GBH which in a bondage situation are still technically illegal. They might also have found recordings/films of acts which would certainly give them enough legal ground to do what they have done so far
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 14:35, Reply)

I suppose
I'd have told them to soundproof or ASBO'd them on the noise, and let em get on with it
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 14:37, Reply)

it seems unlikely though
that it was a not for profit institution, given the reports of many different men approaching it apparantly individually.
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 14:49, Reply)

Aw i just feel sorry for them
It shouldn't be illegal
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 14:50, Reply)

I'm torn
my basic instinct is that it should be legal. But I'm also aware of just how difficult it would be to legalise, and the difficulty of drawing lines
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 14:54, Reply)

I know
Maybe consent forms or something.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 14:58, Reply)

"I hereby give my written permission for Mistress She-Wolf (Ms Eileen Dumple-Forchester)
to restrain my genitals in a vice, flog me and probe my rectum with a cattle prod."
(LongJohnBaldry, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 15:03, Reply)

Exactly.

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 15:07, Reply)

but I retain the right to complain
if she cuddles me afterwards
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 15:08, Reply)

quality

(bamboozled Can hear you getting fatter, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 15:10, Reply)

Generally I'd agree with you,
but it was a semi detached. They could have at least put it somewhere with better sound insulation.
(PsychoChomp, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 14:26, Reply)

Ah, I guess so
That kind of disturbance is out of order.
I thought they were just closing it because it was kinky.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 14:27, Reply)

that's how the article reads, as if it were illegal to have handcuffs...I'd been in jail a looooooooong time ago

( Lisette von Falcon, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 14:29, Reply)

I got my first pair at 16 and hung them on my noticeboard
I found them aesthetically pleasing, but my mum was a bit concerned.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 14:30, Reply)

haha my parents were more afraid to know the answer than to ask the question

( Lisette von Falcon, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 14:34, Reply)

a souvenir
from your first prison trip?
(bamboozled Can hear you getting fatter, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 15:13, Reply)

I was only 16
So it must've been Borstal.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 15:18, Reply)

Hehe
There’s a shop in the tiny town that my mum and dad live in that called Punch and Judy. The top floor is bursting with antiques and bric-a-brac, the lower level is an sex shop full of all things leather and S&M. I think that’s funny.
(Flim-Flam the Magnificent "You is talking loco and I like it!", Wed 3 Mar 2010, 14:28, Reply)

Punchandjudylolz!

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 14:32, Reply)

Lolz indeedy

(Flim-Flam the Magnificent "You is talking loco and I like it!", Wed 3 Mar 2010, 14:34, Reply)

I replied to your question
in that there t'other thread, but you might not see it now you've moved on to greener, er, threads.

The answer was yes, but within reason.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 14:31, Reply)

ta
I was mostly just curious. but also considering that I need more stylish suits, and having someone make them would be awesome :-D
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 14:36, Reply)

I've never taken on something like a tailored suit before
I think it might be a bit out of my league. I'm afraid you'd probably be better getting a professional tailor to make you one. Sorry! I can upcycle a readymade suit into something more awesome, but that's about the extent of my capability.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 14:40, Reply)

that's cool
I was daydreaming mostly :-)

one day I will have enough cash to get a wardrobe full of bespoke 3 piece suits though!
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 14:44, Reply)

they're worth it :)
even just one can make all the difference. Same with women and really fantastic dresses
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 14:50, Reply)

If you have an old suit that you don't love anymore
you could send it to me and I'll make it awesome again. Maybe add the Batman logo to the collar.

Or embroider Vipros into the trouser hem.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 14:50, Reply)

my old ones are mainly too big
because I'm no longer a fat bastard

and I at least have one awesome suit
www.b3tards.com/u/48ca4e4a50b7cad28251/dscf1703.jpg
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 14:59, Reply)

That's a sharp suit indeed Vippers.

(Colonel Santiago Introduced surprised kitty to the world., Wed 3 Mar 2010, 15:00, Reply)

ta
I love that suit.

it weren't cheap though, and as such I am wary of wearing it as often as I might like.

Really I need some vintage tweed for every day wear
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 15:01, Reply)

'Cause every girl's crazy 'bout a sharp dressed man.
*swirly hand gesture*
(LongJohnBaldry, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 15:05, Reply)

If it's the hand gesture I'm thinking of,
the boys will love it too...
(Colonel Santiago Introduced surprised kitty to the world., Wed 3 Mar 2010, 15:06, Reply)

I saw a beautiful vintage tweed suit in a retro boutique t'other day.
Tried it on and it's as if it was tailor made for me. PLUS - it was only £40!!!

I just don't know if I can pull it off...
(Colonel Santiago Introduced surprised kitty to the world., Wed 3 Mar 2010, 15:05, Reply)

vintage tweed suit in a retro boutiqueyoung boy
(LongJohnBaldry, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 15:08, Reply)

go for it
just do not go the whole hog. A few of my mates have taken a stereotype to heart and gone tweed with cravats, appropriate footwear, handkerchiefs, canes and spectacles. I don't have the heart to tell them they look like twats
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 15:10, Reply)

man, that's the dream
the above suit fit me beautifully straight off the rack and was exactly what I had in mind, which is why I felt justified in almost doubling my suit budget to get it.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 15:10, Reply)

You can get your old suits taken in
to make them sexy again, any tailor would be able to do that quite cheaply.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 15:17, Reply)

not really worth it
one of them cost me £6, one was a cream linen job from Primark for £30 and the other was an ordinary M&S job, with not a lot of style to it.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 15:20, Reply)

Cream linen?
Like a Columbian drug lord?
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 15:41, Reply)

you knows it

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 15:43, Reply)

Kitty is it possible
(since we're asking clothing questions) to get a dress let out at the bust. i.e. to modify a dress that fits perfectly everywhere but the bust?
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 15:21, Reply)

yes, but it depends how much really
because you can only let it out as much as the seam allowance will give. So, if it's a dress with four or five darts in the bust area then it can be let out quite a lot, but if it doesn't have any, it will only allow it to be taken out by the amount of seam there is, usually around a cm or so. Other than that you can only modify it with extra panels of fabric, but depending on the dress that could ruin the look of it.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 15:40, Reply)

Aw.
I was so disappointed to read that it was in a small bedroom. I so wanted it to be in a real dungeon in the basement or something similar. *sads*
(porkylips looks better as the sun goes down., Wed 3 Mar 2010, 14:40, Reply)

FFS, this is bullshit.
So what? I would fucking LOVE to have one of these.
( thealternativefact, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 14:42, Reply)

Me too. A bit
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 14:42, Reply)

But wait...
would you like to have one or visit one?
( thealternativefact, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 14:43, Reply)

I had the perfect basement about a year ago,
just none of the equipment.

That said, I've been to a fair few fetish/dungeon things (Torture Garden in that London, the Bizarre Ball etc) and must say in they flesh, things aren't quite so sexy. Just, kind of wierd.
(Colonel Santiago Introduced surprised kitty to the world., Wed 3 Mar 2010, 14:45, Reply)

yeah, which is why you should have your own
And do it with your own missus and then it's not weird.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 14:46, Reply)

This is true.
The only flaw in that plan is that girls that I fall for/fall for me are not into that sort of thing and the girls that ARE into that sort of thing, from experience, are absolutely pant-shittingly mental.
(Colonel Santiago Introduced surprised kitty to the world., Wed 3 Mar 2010, 14:49, Reply)

Slowly catchy watsit
You'll bring her round to it.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 14:52, Reply)

No fucking chance...
Irish Catholic School (not the dirty variety either) who's a massive prude.

I'm lucky to get a leg over every 6 months.
(Colonel Santiago Introduced surprised kitty to the world., Wed 3 Mar 2010, 14:54, Reply)

I went to a Catholic girls' school
I think Catholic girls are shockingly rude!
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 14:59, Reply)

Not this one...
I guess I don't babysit her often enough though eh?
(Colonel Santiago Introduced surprised kitty to the world., Wed 3 Mar 2010, 15:01, Reply)

Hahahah
She must be very awesome in other ways though if you stick with her, despite having very little sexytiem?

I hope you don't go round doing the dirty on her. I mean that. That is naughty.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 15:04, Reply)

She's probably THE most amazing person I've ever met.
Stupidly intelligent, funny, pretty, and best of all, my bezzie mate.

The lack of sexyteims is the only downside though. I seriously don't know what to do about it though. I don't do the dirty, wouldn't dream of ending the relationship based purely on that alone but can't exactly pressure her to do it can I?

ROCK: me :HARD PLACE
(Colonel Santiago Introduced surprised kitty to the world., Wed 3 Mar 2010, 15:12, Reply)

Therapy?
Counselling?
Rohypnol?
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 15:14, Reply)

To be fair,
judging by a few things she's said recently. I think she needs it. That said, I don't want to bring things up and upset her or appear to be pressuring her into something purely because I want more sex.

She doesn't think there's a problem.
(Colonel Santiago Introduced surprised kitty to the world., Wed 3 Mar 2010, 15:18, Reply)

I think there are ways of bringing these things up
I'm sure she knows it's a biiit of a problem and it's probably a self-confidence thing, if I know girls. And despite jokes about stereotypes, Catholicism does cause a fair old bit of guilt.
I'm sure in time you could get things a bit better.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 15:22, Reply)

There's a few other factors but I'm sure that's one of them too.
We're very open and talk about things and I have mentioned how I feel. Just don't want to overstate a point, y'know?
(Colonel Santiago Introduced surprised kitty to the world., Wed 3 Mar 2010, 15:33, Reply)

Well I'll get St Jude on the case
and she might turn into a right goer like Vip's missus.
I've had her.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 15:35, Reply)

that sounds remarkably like something I've been through fairly recently
things have changed now however, and I'm not entirely sure why.

not very helpful I'll admit...
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 15:16, Reply)

Wanna swap?
I'll have the happy one and you can work your magic again...
(Colonel Santiago Introduced surprised kitty to the world., Wed 3 Mar 2010, 15:19, Reply)

I'm next on his bird

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 15:20, Reply)

you're a delight!

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 15:25, Reply)

I'd look delightful on her

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 15:28, Reply)

*considers*
*drools a bit*
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 15:29, Reply)

We'd send you on a fool's errand

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 15:31, Reply)

that's unfair
if there's shenanigans going on I should at least get to watch
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 15:32, Reply)

Only through a spyhole
You can't come in
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 15:34, Reply)

I'm not sure I like this arrangement
we all know that you are totally hot for me, and would clearly want me there.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 15:36, Reply)

Yeah but I want to piss you off
So that when you finally burst in on us you're all raging
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 15:38, Reply)

ok, that's fair enough
chances are that I'd get bored of not being able to see much and go smoke a bong or something
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 15:39, Reply)

fuck off then
and shut the door
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 15:40, Reply)

if that's your attitude maybe I won't invite you round...

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 15:42, Reply)

You can't invite me round ever.
I would actually look at her boobs while she was talking, and occasionally flit up to looking at her nose and she would say "Get that fucking weirdo out."
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 15:44, Reply)

hahaha
probably!
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 15:47, Reply)

watch touch myself
(Colonel Santiago Introduced surprised kitty to the world., Wed 3 Mar 2010, 15:34, Reply)

that's a given

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 15:35, Reply)

I'll stick thanks

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 15:20, Reply)

^
this is truth
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 15:03, Reply)

Eeeh I wouldn't visit no weirdos.
I would have my own in the big cupboard which is like a small room.But my flat is rented and the landlord has to go in there sometimes to fix things.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 14:46, Reply)

you need one that is like a super hero's hideout
so you pull a lever or press a button and the walls all spin round or something, displaying all the gear
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 14:48, Reply)

Quickly Clitgirl
to the Cockcave!

*dunnanunnanunnanunna*
(Bret Mong Keys Eggs has wet his weapon, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 14:49, Reply)

'Quickly Clitgirl'
is quite a tongue twister*. Say it out loud 10 times.

* Maybe not the best turn of phrase.
(Colonel Santiago Introduced surprised kitty to the world., Wed 3 Mar 2010, 14:52, Reply)

I'd rather not, the guys in my office think I'm strange enough as it is...

(LongJohnBaldry, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 15:06, Reply)

I said that exact thing to my ex!

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 14:51, Reply)

Ha
like Quagmire

ts ts tss ts ts tss
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 14:56, Reply)

precisely!

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 15:00, Reply)

Next time he comes to fix something,
fix him… fix him good. Put him in your dungeon, unless he is a weirdo… in which case leave him be and possibly consider creating some sort of secret door.
(Flim-Flam the Magnificent "You is talking loco and I like it!", Wed 3 Mar 2010, 14:50, Reply)

Hahah noooo
That's how he got with the landlady!
She once said to me "Don't ever let him put shelves up for you. Before you know it you'll be in York on Valentine's day, looking at a divorce."
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 14:52, Reply)

Hahahaha
What a random thing to say to you. I’d be scared to let him anywhere near the flat.
(Flim-Flam the Magnificent "You is talking loco and I like it!", Wed 3 Mar 2010, 14:54, Reply)

I love the old dude
And he's besotted with her so I reckons I'm safe.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 15:00, Reply)

I have a cellar that would make a perfect dungeon.
Just needs a lick of paint and some hooks.
( girlinthehole, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 15:07, Reply)

I have some hooks and my neighbour's drill
Never got round to putting em up. I'll bring them when I visit ;)
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 15:09, Reply)

I do have a shit load of rope : )

( girlinthehole, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 15:11, Reply)

Me toooo!
The proper stuff!
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 15:13, Reply)

The hard blue stuff that gives you rope burns just by looking at it?
or the soft, rock climbing strong stuff?
(Colonel Santiago Introduced surprised kitty to the world., Wed 3 Mar 2010, 15:15, Reply)

The hard blue stuff.
And some soft black stuff.
( girlinthehole, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 15:16, Reply)

I have the black bondage rope.

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 15:18, Reply)

I even have some string for the skinny blokes.

( girlinthehole, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 15:24, Reply)

I don't do the tying

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 15:25, Reply)

I'm happy as long as someone is tied up really although preferably me.

( girlinthehole, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 15:28, Reply)

I would as a favour but I'd rather it was me too

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 3 Mar 2010, 15:31, Reply)