Hah!

Call this a recession? Call this an unfriendly government? You lot don't know you're born! Back in the 80s we KNEW how to do a recession properly, dole queues that stretched round the block, homeless people in proper cardboard cities, real heavy industry being brought down by a proper un-caring Tory administration - not like these namby-pamby call centres being "off-shored"...and where are the strikes? Where's the un-rest?

Kids today...
(Che Grimsdale Best before:, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 9:04, 23 replies)

I'm with you
Computer games? Internet? I made my own bikes from scrap purloined from council tips and spent most of my childhood building 'dens' in the local woods. Kids today are a bunch of puffs.
(frankspencer, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 9:11, closed)

^^^
This.
(oneinthepink is at your cervix m'lady, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 10:56, closed)

Me too
..in fact, one bike I made, I couldn't find a front wheel for, until one day I stumbled across a wheel with a solid rubber fron tyre.

It was useless for jumping "the coffin" - too top heavy. We hand painted it in green hammerite as it the only thing we could scrounge.

[and we used to eat gravel for breakfast]
(dchurch bah, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 16:41, closed)

Recession?
Recession pfft. You dont know what it was like down the mines. Not that we had jobs down the mines... thats where we lived in the 80s. Eating coal we were. And grateful for it.
( enoughblueskyforsailorstrousers, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 9:11, closed)

The worst of it is
That this is presented as the end of the world by so many people. And it just isn't. We don't even have that much heavy industry left to shut down. This/the next recession will lead to the mass-unemployment of disgruntled Office workers. Queues for the Daily Mail stretching around the block as they can't afford the petrol costs of delivery "these prices".

Like you say, dole queues stretching round the block show a proper recession. Not some guys in London screwing up pension funds and getting a few hundred billion to play with as a punishment.

Che, you want Civil Unrest? Lead on!
( uberdeity Wondered why Owen Lars knew of the term "hell" on, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 9:22, closed)

Course, *you* had it lucky
We used t' dream of living in cardboard city.

Aye
( LemonEntryMyDearWatson This time, Moriarty, the hand is on the other foot, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 9:36, closed)

you had it lucky
we had to live in the carcasses of dead dinosaurs or some bollocks or other
( sandettie light vessel automatic New Twitter - @bollocksreally, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 9:42, closed)

All together now:

"What do we want?"

"More fluffeh"

"When do we want it?"

"Tea time"
(Che Grimsdale Best before:, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 10:10, closed)

As long
as there will be cakes. I wont have tea without cakes.
(Bazongaloid, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 10:20, closed)

victory
to the minors.
(apeloverage committed the vile act of onanism on, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 10:29, closed)

no i don't call this a recession. there have not been 2 succesive 3 month periods of downturn. there has until now only been a slowing in the rate of growth. we may be about to enter a period of recession but we're not there yet.

the government may have made "bold moves" to halt the decline but how about something bolder?

i say dismantle the capitalist system now and recognise that it is a flawed economic model with no accomodation of social needs.

the "middle classes" should become a revolutionary class, taking the role envisaged for the proletariat by Marx.

we should unite under the leadership of che and using our access to knowledge, resources and skills, we should shape international processes in our own class interest.
marxism should be revived to stem global inequality.

either that or we could do what we always do and just let things go on without doing anything about them.

Fancy a beer, comrade?
() do bears shit on the wooden pope?, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 10:44, closed)

I do indeed fancy a beer
and may well have one at lunchtime. I will be invoicing you later Mr/Ms Bracket.

As for Marx - I'm a bit of a Harpo-ist as far as that goes. I think we should call for an end to Growth. Aim for sustainability, cut down consumerism and consumption. A company's share price can fall if they announce £1.5bn in profit, if that is 3% down on last year - madness!

We all want a little more each year, but we should be rewarded for re-using stuff - I want people at the Council dumps fining people for chucking out perfectly good stuff.

[Rant over...for now]

More camaraderie, less dogma! And bring back flat caps. Flat caps FTW!!
(Che Grimsdale Best before:, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 11:03, closed)

Non-Rubbish...
We took a load of bags of green waste to the tip the other day (a branch from the neighbours willow had landed across our apple tree and hen house, so we cut it up, retained the large pieces to use for the fire once they dry out).
We used the bags from the bark chippings we have in our duck run to carry them in, and then emptied them out at the tip so we could reuse them, probably for compost.

Whilst we were there we saw:
An open back truck arrive with 3 ikea wardrobes on. There appeared to be nothing wrong with them.
White van man with a 3 piece suite.
A car with about 4 bin bags full of video's.

FFS have none of these people heard of charity shops?

Or what about freecycle.org ? Still in working order but you're replacing it? Advertise it on freecycle, and keep an eye open for things YOU want too.
The vast majority of our video's went to a special needs school, both for keeping and reselling.
Old clothes and material went to a local school for dress up and play.

Or even go do a bloody boot sale... You'll have a few hours in the fresh air, maybe get some money in your pocket, and other people will get what they think is a bargain.

Sorry Che, carried your rave on...
(paof2 Nude might not be rude, but rude could be nude..., Fri 10 Oct 2008, 14:44, closed)

We did a car-boot just the other week
Made around £130 flogging all our CDs, some old plates, and sundry other stuff and junk. Or rather I did, Mrs G. sat in the front listening to the Archers omnibus and Desert Island Discs!

As luck would have it, that very same afternoon the car wouldn't start, called the AA - battery fucked (car's done over 200k miles), had to get new one from Halfords - £80 and I knackered myself carrying the bastard home.

Still quids in though and got the battery for 'nothing'.

I hate those idiots that chuck away perfectly good stuff when, as you say, you could give it to a charity shop for the same price! I guess they don't know what a charity shop is...

Grrrrr
(Che Grimsdale Best before:, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 15:48, closed)

car boots can be great
i did one last year, got rid of a load of stuff i had no further use for and came home richer by £290
( Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 18:24, closed)

Bring back
cat flaps?
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Sun 12 Oct 2008, 19:27, closed)

'tis all media hype I tell thee.
.
(oneinthepink is at your cervix m'lady, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 10:58, closed)

.
I was thinking about this. There hasn't even been a good May Day riot in ages, everyone has gone soft.
( browser still relating boring anecdotes into a void on, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 11:22, closed)

When ah were a lad
We had to walk 8 miles uphill in't snow, both ways. Gotta love them Escheresque commutes to work.
( mistaspakkaman and the inedible shifting caterpillars, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 11:50, closed)

wait until...
...interest rates go back to 15% (yay nigel lawson), repossession rates peak at levels that make today's look like 'zero homelessness' and unemmployment among 18-25 yr olds hits 25% - welcome to 20 years ago

recession? hah
( writerblock ... embedding disabled by request on, Fri 10 Oct 2008, 14:32, closed)

Revolution!
Led by a man named Che!

What can go wrong?

Lead on, comrade!
(EffinDoubt is breaking glass on, Tue 14 Oct 2008, 15:38, closed)