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I honestly couldn't give a fuck that some emo wanker has fucked off and died.
What couldn't you give a fuck about today?
(I helped save b3ta! baldmonkey a frothy foul-smelling vaginal discharge, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 14:36, archived)
you.

(I helped save b3ta! sleepybinky, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 14:36, archived)
this empty feeling in the blackest pits of my soul.

(I helped save b3ta! sleepybinky, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 14:37, archived)
i couldnt give a fuck if my skin blistered off and my head exploded.

(I helped save b3ta! sleepybinky, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 14:37, archived)
If my head exploded I think I would still operate with the same level of functionality as I usually do.

(I helped save b3ta! Donkey Gums @mattcomedy, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 14:38, archived)
*hugs more to stop head explodey*

(I helped save b3ta! spangolin - the odds are good but the goods are odd, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 14:42, archived)
A SPANGOLIN HAT?

(I helped save b3ta! sleepybinky, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 14:42, archived)
scoop out her brains and wear it on your head

(I helped save b3ta! Tyronne Get To Falkirk, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 14:44, archived)
YEAH
like a raccoon-skin one but with less tail.
(I helped save b3ta! spangolin - the odds are good but the goods are odd, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 14:45, archived)
can we get you a raccoon suit?

(I helped save b3ta! sleepybinky, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 14:49, archived)
if you like
stripey tails are wintimes!
(I helped save b3ta! spangolin - the odds are good but the goods are odd, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 14:54, archived)
LEMUROLIN.

(I helped save b3ta! sleepybinky, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 15:06, archived)
so she could fly like mario!

(I helped save b3ta! manolith hooray for me, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 15:07, archived)
Dear binks,
I've gone off sex. Should I be concerned?

Yours,
baldmonkey.
(I helped save b3ta! baldmonkey a frothy foul-smelling vaginal discharge, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 14:37, archived)
nah, your mother could do with the rest

(I helped save b3ta! Tyronne Get To Falkirk, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 14:38, archived)
only if your wife can't get it better somewhere else.

(I helped save b3ta! sleepybinky, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 14:40, archived)
If she can't get it better, either her fanny's healed over or she's dead.
I'm shit at sex.
(I helped save b3ta! baldmonkey a frothy foul-smelling vaginal discharge, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 14:40, archived)
I'm happy to act as a friendly placeholder
you can have her back when you feel up to it. Because we are Internet Friends.
(I helped save b3ta! Flapjack I spay a little mare for you, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 14:42, archived)
YOU are a Good Person.

(I helped save b3ta! baldmonkey a frothy foul-smelling vaginal discharge, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 14:43, archived)
HOORAY FOR FLAPS.

(I helped save b3ta! sleepybinky, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 14:43, archived)
I can take or leave them.

(I helped save b3ta! baldmonkey a frothy foul-smelling vaginal discharge, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 14:45, archived)
APPARENTLY SO

(I helped save b3ta! sleepybinky, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 14:50, archived)
pfft

(I helped save b3ta! spangolin - the odds are good but the goods are odd, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 14:46, archived)
Are you taking your pills still? That usually has a lot to do with it.

(I helped save b3ta! Donkey Gums @mattcomedy, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 14:40, archived)
Nothing wrong with being off sex

(I helped save b3ta! Maximinimus you stick around I'll make it worth your while, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 14:46, archived)
My work
I'm only in today then I'm off for TWO WEEKS, motherfucker
(I helped save b3ta! Theoban What of it, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 14:36, archived)
Fucking sweet.

(I helped save b3ta! baldmonkey a frothy foul-smelling vaginal discharge, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 14:37, archived)
Got any HOT DATES set up?

(I helped save b3ta! thealternativefact, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 14:38, archived)
NO.
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
(I helped save b3ta! baldmonkey a frothy foul-smelling vaginal discharge, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 14:40, archived)
The environment.
Using this PC to read b3ta uses over 400W.
(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 14:37, archived)
crisps

(I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 14:38, archived)
It's part of my "Whatever MGT doesn't use, I will use double" policy on climate change.

(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 14:39, archived)
that's the opposite of not caring.

(I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 14:40, archived)
I was hoping you'd pick up on the requirement for infinite energy there.
I am disappointed in your recent decline in pedant skill.
(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 14:41, archived)
I can only say no wonder it's noisy on air cooling.
How much does it draw when it's really working hard?
(I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 14:44, archived)
I haven't measured it when running games. Perhaps I should.
It would use much less at idle, if I wasn't running CUDA apps on the GFX card and other distributed computing things. I think the true idle power is around 200W.
(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 14:48, archived)
WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(I helped save b3ta! baldmonkey a frothy foul-smelling vaginal discharge, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 14:38, archived)
I'm still not sure what "poons" is

(I helped save b3ta! Master Of Turnips. Only gays and morons believe in ghosts., Mon 15 Jun 2009, 14:38, archived)
An emo with tits.

(I helped save b3ta! baldmonkey a frothy foul-smelling vaginal discharge, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 14:38, archived)
I'm still not sure what "baldmonkey" is.

(I helped save b3ta! Master Of Turnips. Only gays and morons believe in ghosts., Mon 15 Jun 2009, 14:39, archived)
baldmonkey still does not know what baldmonkey is

(I helped save b3ta! Tyronne Get To Falkirk, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 14:40, archived)
they died?
thats terrible, I could do with a drink.
(I helped save b3ta! Tyronne Get To Falkirk, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 14:38, archived)
didn't you suffer from depression too?
Another moral victory for me.
(I helped save b3ta! GrandmaOfShoes, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 14:39, archived)
Still do.
Still on prozac.
Still wish I was dead.
(I helped save b3ta! baldmonkey a frothy foul-smelling vaginal discharge, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 14:39, archived)
Gmos 1 - 0 Baldmonkey

(I helped save b3ta! GrandmaOfShoes, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 14:41, archived)
pills are rubbish, in my experience,
they're just the doctors way of making you go away.
You need to find out what's wrong with your life, and then change it.
(I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 14:42, archived)
Well, I disagree. But you are right, CBT (or whatever works for that individual) is often necessary as well.
Or just cheering the fuck up.
(I helped save b3ta! baldmonkey a frothy foul-smelling vaginal discharge, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 14:44, archived)
What if it's caused by chronic pain that can't be fixed?

(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 14:44, archived)
I meant anti-depressants, silly.

(I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 14:45, archived)
So did I.

(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 14:49, archived)
Ok well if what's wrong with your life can't be fixed,
then I guess you just have to make the best out of a bad job. Although I found that anti-depressants didn't even cheer me up, they just stopped me caring.
(I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 14:54, archived)
That's what they do.
They're not "happy pills", as many people assume.
(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 14:56, archived)
Yeah,
actually I thought that felt worse. I almost completely stopped functioning when I was on them, I'd just sit for hours staring at the wall because I didn't care about anything enough to do anything, and I really couldn't see how my life was ever going to improve like that. If you want to change things, you've got to care about them. When I eventually stopped them, it was like suddenly I could think again!
(I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 15:00, archived)
What a fucking stupid thing to say.

(PsychoChomp, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 14:44, archived)
*NUT KICK OF AGREEMENT*

(I helped save b3ta! baldmonkey a frothy foul-smelling vaginal discharge, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 14:45, archived)
I studied neurochemistry as part of my degree
I AM RIGHT COZ I WENT TO UNI!
(PsychoChomp, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 14:46, archived)
yeah, how stupid to suggest that actually improving your life
is a better idea than just numbing the pain.
(I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 14:46, archived)
How stupid to suggest that depression is purely based on enviromental factors.

(PsychoChomp, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 14:48, archived)
whats the mix would you say
between environmental factors and genes as causes of depression?
(I helped save b3ta! tickle I was away, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 15:15, archived)
Yes, depressive people should just buck up their ideas
How simple, I don't know how we've missed this simple step for so long.
(I helped save b3ta! Theoban What of it, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 14:48, archived)
You need to remove the cause of the depression,
otherwise you'll be on pills forever. I don't know why this idea seems bizarre to anyone.
(I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 14:51, archived)
You're assuming that all depression is caused by external factors

(I helped save b3ta! Theoban What of it, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 14:51, archived)
I think most of it is,
and I reckon it probably is in Baldmonkey's case here, too. You should certainly at least try to find out, GPs seem to think that the pills will magically make you better irrespective of the cause of it.
(I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 14:56, archived)
perhaps sometimes it is?
she was referring to her personal experience after all, let's not try to lump all depressives together as if it was like the common cold
(I helped save b3ta! spacefish bong!, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 14:58, archived)
60% of the time, it works EVERY time.

(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 14:59, archived)
All I'm saying is that yes, for some people sorting their lives out fixes the problem. But for others pills may be the only thing that helps
I'm trying not to lump all depressives together by saying that 'bucking up' will fix all their ills.
(I helped save b3ta! Theoban What of it, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 15:00, archived)
Come on, it could be worse!
What's to be depressed about?! :-)

:-D
(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 15:01, archived)
I would never say to someone "buck up" or "cheer up",
because I know how dismissive and unhelpful that is. I don't want anyone to think I'm suggesting it's easy here, I had a very hard time of it myself.

Probably a lot of depression is caused by something transient, such as a bereavement, and pills just help them through it.
(I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 15:03, archived)
OK I'm sorry, I've got the wrong end of what you were saying there
I do agree that a lot of the time it's situational, it was for me certainly. But I do think the pills helped me personally. I don't think they're magic cures nor that they work for everyone, all I can say is that they helped me sort something out when I needed it.
(I helped save b3ta! Theoban What of it, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 15:05, archived)
They do say psychotherapy works best with the pills as well,
what credit I can give them is that they did seem to remove a lot of the anxiety, which probably helps, but psychotherapy did nothing for me either, to be honest. Most people have better luck with that, I hope, I'm just one of the awkward cases it doesn't work on! But maybe it did do some good, in a round-about sort of way.
(I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 15:09, archived)
The psychotherapy they gave to me ended up with me in hospital for an overdose
So I'll chalk that one up as a 'failure'. But I got better after that.
(I helped save b3ta! Theoban What of it, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 15:12, archived)
One can only presume it works for some people,
otherwise they wouldn't do it. Mine did say it was "a long, slow process," but the way she was going on, it would have taken forever, and I didn't really have forever. Ultimately I came to the conclusion that she wasn't going to be able to fix me and that I'd have to go and do it myself.

It was weird, though. She wouldn't say anything. I'd go in there every week, and she'd just sit there looking at me, and I kept asking her "what do you expect me to say?" and "what am I supposed to say?" and she'd just come back with things like "are you expected to say something?" and "are you supposed to say something?" She was worse than that bloody Eliza program. I tried to start normal conversations, and she'd just go "this is not a normal social interaction." So I was completely at a loss, week after week of half-hour sessions of near silence. It occurs to me perhaps that most people, once the meds have taken away the anxiety, naturally tend to talk about themselves. I don't know, but I know I don't. Some people accuse me of "bottling up", but it's not that, it just rarely occurs to me to say anything.
(I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 15:20, archived)
I just used to lie to them, saying what I thought they'd want to hear
I know that entirely defeats the purpose but I don't like 'opening up'. I'd rather keep it inside where it can't bother anyone.

The woman had me handling stones going 'which one do you most identify with?' Utter nonsense it was.
(I helped save b3ta! Theoban What of it, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 15:25, archived)
haha
that's like some kind of crazy new-age weirdness. My dad does this thing called the Luscher Colour Test, that's quite fun.
(I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 15:27, archived)
I'm sorry if I'm coming across the wrong way
I don't mean to upset anyone.
(I helped save b3ta! Theoban What of it, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 15:01, archived)
sorry, i shouldn't have directed all that solely at you
the whole discussion was getting needlessly two-sided and i just blurted out
(I helped save b3ta! spacefish bong!, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 15:14, archived)
No problem, I just don't like the thought of upsetting anyone
I worry about overstepping the mark on here
(I helped save b3ta! Theoban What of it, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 15:16, archived)
forum banter,
great times.
(I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 15:21, archived)
I don't know. Pills don't fix depression do they, I think that's what she means. They just make you numb so you don't feel anything.
But in my experience it's just something you've got to live with and I don't think anything can ever really fix it. (been with some proper mentals)
(I helped save b3ta! Donkey Gums @mattcomedy, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 14:48, archived)
Speaking personally, the pills helped as a stabilising influence on me to give me the time and the ability to sort myself out
So yes she's partially right, at least in my case, that doing something about my life helped, I can't say I would've got there had I not had the pills to help calm things down in the noggin and give me a bit of space and time to work on what was making me miserable.
(I helped save b3ta! Theoban What of it, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 14:51, archived)
pills are a bandaid,,, the wound still bleeds
I am on meds, but I know they merely hide the problem not solve it. CBT or other Counselling is the better course of action in the long term, but when depression becomes destructive as it did in my case, pills are a good way of helping to keep you alive long enough to work around the root causes.
(I helped save b3ta! DavyBoyInGravyJoy Grey Goose Vodka on Ice, nothing finer, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 14:50, archived)
Man up, you fucking gayers.
I've suffered from depression for years. sometimes really crushing bouts that last for months. Its been worse when there were no particlular outside influences (Great relationship, good job, pretty fucking stress-free life in general). Turns out I have some kind of bad brain chemistry, so no amount of changing things in my life is going to help.
(Spleep Shit, or get off the internet., Mon 15 Jun 2009, 15:38, archived)
You've got to be careful with bran.

(I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 15:44, archived)
I know.
Bad bran has been the absolute PLAGUE of my life.

Shut up, alright. I can spell perfectly.
(Spleep Shit, or get off the internet., Mon 15 Jun 2009, 16:08, archived)
That I've set myself a list of things to do on my day off, starting at 9am.
and I've done none of them.
(I helped save b3ta! Harold Bishop's Love Child some sort of terrifying sex magician., Mon 15 Jun 2009, 14:44, archived)
Oh, ok then, fair enough.

(I helped save b3ta! G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Mon 15 Jun 2009, 14:45, archived)