the other questions - should you fancy having a go answering themThe community that has developed, and they traits they have, the language they use, and is there still a stigma that there are just sad young men and not 'normal people'?
Do you think anonymity on the internet has any consequences? Do you think there is a darker side, does it change us to hide behind the internet?
What pleasure do people get from creating and sharing memes? Do you think it can be more than just a bit of fun? The programme is presented by Dr Susan Blackmore, who has a theory that ultimately, we are going to be driven by memes, and the need to stay connected online to build bigger and more powerful computers, which will eventually be able to copy, vary and select material by themselves, making us their slaves. How does that make you feel?
Why is the internet obsessed with cats?
What have your dealings with the 'traditional' media been like? Obviously, advertisers would love to 'harness the power of memes', and get people to do their work for them. Have they tried to piggy back on your popularity? Has there ever been any plagiarism? Are people precious about their work?
Should images and videos be free to be edited, changed and passed on, For example, Shepherd Fairey's Obama poster? Wouldn't it have been better for the production company to embrace the downfall meme, rather than remove it from Youtube?
People have argued that the lack of a 'gatekeeper' on the internet is a dreadful thing, that we now have to wade through a sea of unedited crap. Do you think this is really true? Or could it be a good thing that we are exposed to more of everything?
I'll probably also have to ask that awful question along the lines of 'do you think in the future we'll all have to wear tin foil hats to protect ourselves from the technology...'
(Do you think anonymity on the internet has any consequences? Do you think there is a darker side, does it change us to hide behind the internet?
What pleasure do people get from creating and sharing memes? Do you think it can be more than just a bit of fun? The programme is presented by Dr Susan Blackmore, who has a theory that ultimately, we are going to be driven by memes, and the need to stay connected online to build bigger and more powerful computers, which will eventually be able to copy, vary and select material by themselves, making us their slaves. How does that make you feel?
Why is the internet obsessed with cats?
What have your dealings with the 'traditional' media been like? Obviously, advertisers would love to 'harness the power of memes', and get people to do their work for them. Have they tried to piggy back on your popularity? Has there ever been any plagiarism? Are people precious about their work?
Should images and videos be free to be edited, changed and passed on, For example, Shepherd Fairey's Obama poster? Wouldn't it have been better for the production company to embrace the downfall meme, rather than remove it from Youtube?
People have argued that the lack of a 'gatekeeper' on the internet is a dreadful thing, that we now have to wade through a sea of unedited crap. Do you think this is really true? Or could it be a good thing that we are exposed to more of everything?
I'll probably also have to ask that awful question along the lines of 'do you think in the future we'll all have to wear tin foil hats to protect ourselves from the technology...'
rob,
Mon 7 Feb 2011, 9:05,
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the joy of the internet is wading through hours of unedited crapfor all the hours of tedium there are some real diamond pieces.
As for the obsession with cats that is forced upon us by the NWO to try to distract us from looking at the chem trails left behind by the lizard people from outer space
(As for the obsession with cats that is forced upon us by the NWO to try to distract us from looking at the chem trails left behind by the lizard people from outer space
Paul_P http://www.Paul-hub.com,
Mon 7 Feb 2011, 9:13,
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I only come here for the unedited crap.I have no interest in only seeing things some middle class prat in a suit says is allowed.
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Mu Dinofiddler,
Mon 7 Feb 2011, 9:21,
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I'd prefer to have the entire world view, and sort through the shit for myself, rather than having an homogenised template.Being told what's funny will only work on occasion.
I know I feel a sense of pride when some random something on the internet, (which just happened to make me smile), swiftly becomes viral..
.. and I also spit at my monitor when things I hate become globally popular.
But it's all part of the net's rich tapestry, and I wouldn't want it any other way.
(I know I feel a sense of pride when some random something on the internet, (which just happened to make me smile), swiftly becomes viral..
.. and I also spit at my monitor when things I hate become globally popular.
But it's all part of the net's rich tapestry, and I wouldn't want it any other way.
Captain Howdy,
Mon 7 Feb 2011, 9:23,
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The subject of Memes for me first came up as a kid watching a short doc on the sci Fi channelAnd it scared the shit out of me. From later on going on the Internet and encountering this term led me to understand it as an alternative word for injoke and collective reference. I've noticed more here than in other Internet realms the meme is treated with often a bit more regular creative use than used as an image with a black border and words. I suppose that's a b3ta idiocyncracy to avoid a toap. And is that a meme too?
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Christian's Bolt and Ski,
Mon 7 Feb 2011, 9:24,
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Also this Susan blackmore sounds like one of the talking headsIf it was the same lady she seemed to imply they had some independent existence from people, partly why that freaked me out. Which to be honest seemed a bit odd. Wouldn't it be cart before the horse?
( Christian's Bolt and Ski,
Mon 7 Feb 2011, 10:43,
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This is the whole point of memes, in the original sense as a parallel for genesGenes want to ensure their own survival and can be good or bad for the organism; memes, likewise, are replicating units of ideas. Most of them are just ordinary ideas which we discuss, but some of them evade rationality and have means of going uncriticised. We should hunt those ones down and kill them with fire.
I don't think this applies to any internet memes, or memes in the sense of fun things to repeat.
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Mon 7 Feb 2011, 11:35,
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I don't think this applies to any internet memes, or memes in the sense of fun things to repeat.
Memes themselves bore me senseless.They are the internet equivalent of an endlessly repeated Little Britain catchphrase. The only purpose they serve is to allow people who dont have original ideas to join in the fun.
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Mon 7 Feb 2011, 10:04,
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Personally I think once memes get out into the wider world they lose a lot of their powerI'd point to Mike Huckabee's "Chuck Norris Facts" election advert or Rick Astley rick-rolling the Macy's Parade as examples - it's almost like the meme "sold out" and it's just not as amusing any more. When I was working deep within the bowels of advertising earlier last year I had representatives of [political party] asking me how to get unflattering Downfall videos removed from YouTube at the same time as their sock-puppets were uploading unflattering Downfall vids about [other political party]. I just think it was funnier when it was bored internerds who were doing it for lols, rather than grasping politicians desperately trying to get one over their opposite number.
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emvee cruor deo cruoris,
Mon 7 Feb 2011, 10:13,
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regarding the cats questionMy missus will just type "kittens" into Google if she wants cheering up
( emvee cruor deo cruoris,
Mon 7 Feb 2011, 10:41,
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So you're saying that every now and then memes....
Afinkawan Yes I can hear you Clem Fandango,
Mon 7 Feb 2011, 11:23,
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I wouldn't say we were normal"creatives" is a better all encompassing word. People who want to make something not just watch tv.
Anonymity can be freeing, you don't worry about drawing cocks on things for a laugh because no one knows you well enough to judge you. It can lead to freer exploration of ideas.
I don't think anyone tries to create a meme, they start as one funny picture like any other but it has something that the crowd maintain.
I think that woman has a different idea to a meme than we do, I can't imagine being driven by the Quo anywhere.
Because cats are better than us
Traditional media is the same as digital, people use your stuff and generally don't give just reward, using you up and spitting you out - unless you're lucky and went to school with the boss or his mate.
Lots of people have reposted my work as theirs and had far more success than I have, hell riverghost has a story about someone pretending to be me to get a shag in a pub once! crazy world that is far more exciting than my own.
If it's not damaging to the original artwork and isn't being used for financial gain then yes. It's flattery and proof of a good source. If the artist is a getting rich or successful off someone elses effort then they should be tarred and feathered.
I think the sea of crap is very true, and the more accessible 2d and 3d creative software is the more half arsed stuff we'll see. But everyone has to start somewhere and its the way of the world. At least with digital stuff you can just press delete.
Tin foil hats are useless against chemtrails and the scientologist hand massage
(Anonymity can be freeing, you don't worry about drawing cocks on things for a laugh because no one knows you well enough to judge you. It can lead to freer exploration of ideas.
I don't think anyone tries to create a meme, they start as one funny picture like any other but it has something that the crowd maintain.
I think that woman has a different idea to a meme than we do, I can't imagine being driven by the Quo anywhere.
Because cats are better than us
Traditional media is the same as digital, people use your stuff and generally don't give just reward, using you up and spitting you out - unless you're lucky and went to school with the boss or his mate.
Lots of people have reposted my work as theirs and had far more success than I have, hell riverghost has a story about someone pretending to be me to get a shag in a pub once! crazy world that is far more exciting than my own.
If it's not damaging to the original artwork and isn't being used for financial gain then yes. It's flattery and proof of a good source. If the artist is a getting rich or successful off someone elses effort then they should be tarred and feathered.
I think the sea of crap is very true, and the more accessible 2d and 3d creative software is the more half arsed stuff we'll see. But everyone has to start somewhere and its the way of the world. At least with digital stuff you can just press delete.
Tin foil hats are useless against chemtrails and the scientologist hand massage
HappyToast Groat froth,
Mon 7 Feb 2011, 10:31,
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This is Ace. I may have to nick it for an award at work...We go on about the 'He's Spartacus' award for spineless blame shifting - this is the ideal e-mail attachment.
Can I nick it? Can I ? Can I? Oh go on pleeease?
(Can I nick it? Can I ? Can I? Oh go on pleeease?
da5id <YOUR SIG HERE>,
Mon 7 Feb 2011, 11:47,
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Actually crying with laughter.....Bravo.
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The only Dave is pushing things forward,
Mon 7 Feb 2011, 13:14,
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"Slaves" doesn't make much sense.Perhaps we would willingly work to serve the meme-devising-computers because we love them so. It's hard to see how a computer can select memes that we'd enjoy, though, without being an artificial intelligence, and there's no reason to assume an artificial intelligence that understands us deeply would be immoral and enslave us. On the contrary, we'd make it one of us, with our values.
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Mon 7 Feb 2011, 11:27,
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