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# apologies for the outburst

Also, I know Internet petitions don't work, but I thought I'd do one anyway.....
petitions.pm.gov.uk/food-packaging/ pass it on to anyone else who'd want to sign it.
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Tue 10 Jul 2007, 10:52, archived)
# My ps1 just crashed
(I helped save b3ta! davew27 hevosen kuva!, Tue 10 Jul 2007, 10:53, archived)
# buy a ps2, they're down to $99 now
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Tue 10 Jul 2007, 10:55, archived)
# Pfft, $
I have a ps2, I got it for free, but it's connected to the TV downstairs
(I helped save b3ta! davew27 hevosen kuva!, Tue 10 Jul 2007, 10:59, archived)
# connect it upstairs then you mong ;)
(I helped save b3ta! prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave, Tue 10 Jul 2007, 11:02, archived)
# I will soon
When I've finished smashing up police cars
(I helped save b3ta! davew27 hevosen kuva!, Tue 10 Jul 2007, 11:05, archived)
# But....but....Dave...you LOVE cars...
(I helped save b3ta! NinjaBadger hides in the bushes and gives you TB., Tue 10 Jul 2007, 11:09, archived)
# Imposter!
(I helped save b3ta! Dr Scunner She’s a he, technically, but she’s scalding hot, Tue 10 Jul 2007, 11:31, archived)
# really, what were you playing?
(I helped save b3ta! Jeccius Steam Borderlands 2 junkie, Tue 10 Jul 2007, 10:55, archived)
# Grand Theft Auto
(I helped save b3ta! davew27 hevosen kuva!, Tue 10 Jul 2007, 10:59, archived)
# I loved that game
in fact I love all the GTAs. The best bit about the first one was if you killed enough policemen you got the message COP KILLER! in big letters across the screen and if you did enough pedestrians it comes up with GENOCIDE!
(I helped save b3ta! Afinkawan Yes I can hear you Clem Fandango, Tue 10 Jul 2007, 11:10, archived)
# YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN DRIVING IT WHILST DRUNK
(I helped save b3ta! Damien's Hearse, Tue 10 Jul 2007, 10:57, archived)
# I was driving a bus
(I helped save b3ta! davew27 hevosen kuva!, Tue 10 Jul 2007, 10:59, archived)
# does the phrase 'pissing in the wind' mean anything to you?
(I helped save b3ta! mictoboy shitting in your cunt since, Tue 10 Jul 2007, 10:53, archived)
# wasn't that a del amitri song?
(coobeastie Used to Be in Evil Gazebo, Tue 10 Jul 2007, 10:55, archived)
# no that was
"cum in the milk"
(I helped save b3ta! Aphex The Mink Snackless, Tue 10 Jul 2007, 10:56, archived)
# well nobody's perfect
(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Tue 10 Jul 2007, 10:56, archived)
# i'm sure i don't know, darling
(I helped save b3ta! mictoboy shitting in your cunt since, Tue 10 Jul 2007, 10:57, archived)
# yes, it means wet shoes
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Tue 10 Jul 2007, 10:56, archived)
# 'ning Toasty
I heard a good point on the radio this morning.

The advert about recycling cans says they could be made into a car or a plane . . . surely that would INCREASE my carbon footprint if I recycle a can . . .


(I helped save b3ta! Sir Aunty Grampa Dave the Hat - enjoying a post-meridian muncheon - Ta! Cannaoogim!?, Tue 10 Jul 2007, 10:55, archived)
# Yeah
but everyone has to chip in to help the war effort 'n that.

/early 1940s blog
(I helped save b3ta! NinjaBadger hides in the bushes and gives you TB., Tue 10 Jul 2007, 10:56, archived)
# psst
that carbon footprint stuff is bollocks.

don't get fooled by it.
(coobeastie Used to Be in Evil Gazebo, Tue 10 Jul 2007, 10:57, archived)
# yeah
unless you rub pencil all over youre shoes
(I helped save b3ta! mictoboy shitting in your cunt since, Tue 10 Jul 2007, 10:58, archived)
# ah yes.
but the other meaning is a bit pisspoor isn't it?
how long did it take the monkeys to think up a catchy name like that?

edit:
"A carbon footprint is often expressed as tons of carbon dioxide or tons of carbon emitted, usually on a yearly basis. "

So, like, its not actually anything that could be considered in any way a footprint at all. Lying fuckers.
(coobeastie Used to Be in Evil Gazebo, Tue 10 Jul 2007, 11:00, archived)
# erm
20 years?
(I helped save b3ta! mictoboy shitting in your cunt since, Tue 10 Jul 2007, 11:03, archived)
# 20 years that could have been spent doing something useful

i'm concerned with a different type of gas emission today, as last nights turkey madras is acting up.
(coobeastie Used to Be in Evil Gazebo, Tue 10 Jul 2007, 11:08, archived)
# Hahah!
Alright, my 50p is up now and I don't have any more change, so I'm going back offline.

Play nice y'all.
(I helped save b3ta! Jessie © needs pirate name suggestions, Tue 10 Jul 2007, 10:57, archived)
# Mwwwwah!


(I helped save b3ta! Sir Aunty Grampa Dave the Hat - enjoying a post-meridian muncheon - Ta! Cannaoogim!?, Tue 10 Jul 2007, 10:58, archived)
# Ta ta!
(I helped save b3ta! NinjaBadger hides in the bushes and gives you TB., Tue 10 Jul 2007, 10:59, archived)
# I'm with you
did you know that tetra packs are recyclable. WHERE FACILITIES EXIST! I think there's a facility in Scotland.

Tetrapacks are evil. The guy who invented them is a multi-millionaire and he doesn't give a shit about anything
(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Tue 10 Jul 2007, 10:56, archived)
# ^this^
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Tue 10 Jul 2007, 10:57, archived)
# sigged
(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Tue 10 Jul 2007, 11:00, archived)
# signed
(I helped save b3ta! The King of Hats Cone of shame, Tue 10 Jul 2007, 11:05, archived)
# Done and done
.
(I helped save b3ta! DumbMonkey The penis mightier than the sword, Tue 10 Jul 2007, 11:03, archived)
# to be honest, I think you'd have more signatories if you started a petition entitled:
"We, the undersigned, have in our lifetime, attempted to start an online petition to force the nation/community/world* to ban the use of non-recyclable packaging".

Noble cause and all, but it ain't gonna happen when we're still buying the stuff off the shelves in the first place.

*delete as appropriate
(I helped save b3ta! The Great Architect is still waiting for his account to be deleted on, Tue 10 Jul 2007, 11:04, archived)
# people are stupid and lazy, unless the manufacturers are forced
the spend the extra 0.03p on plastic to use the recyclable sort then yes, we will continue to buy it.

You can't ask people to do things themselves that will upset their life in a teeny, tiny way, which is why the petition actually makes some sense.
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Tue 10 Jul 2007, 11:09, archived)
# not really, as you rely on these lazy, and stupid 'people' (suggesting the majority) to sign the petition in the first place to make the peition big enough to have an effect...
thus they are 'doing it themselves' and not being so stupid, and lazy. If they're stupid and lazy enough to not
care a tinker's cuss when they're actually in the supermarket,
what makes you think a small percentage of them would actually sign an online petition.

people just don't care that much until it's in their back yard, it's driven by greed, not by ethics, and I'll tell you now, there is NO WAY on this Earth
that Gordon Brown will introduce ANYTHING like this in the next few years, as it'll upset the applecart with so many companies and producers,
and he needs all the stabiliy help he can get
to make his tenure as comfortable as possible in these early days
(I helped save b3ta! The Great Architect is still waiting for his account to be deleted on, Tue 10 Jul 2007, 11:11, archived)
# yes, I was suggesting that signing a petition
was less imposing on their lives than suggesting the stop buying cheap, non degrading plastics.
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Tue 10 Jul 2007, 11:14, archived)
# you're sort of reaching for the 'middle england daily express/guardian' route then
as said, nice idea, good cause and all, but so many people have tried this, and it becomes inneffectual in it's approach.
It's a lot easier for downing street to drag all the signatories across into a folder on a computer and conveniently forget about it than it is to open letters, actually have to READ comments and letters. THAT's what is needed. Make someone actually do some friggin' work that end to start making people realise.
(I helped save b3ta! The Great Architect is still waiting for his account to be deleted on, Tue 10 Jul 2007, 11:16, archived)
# The worst thing I ever saw
Was frozen microwave chips (not McCains - I can't remember the brand) but, and you'll have trouble believing this, each chip was basically individually packaged!

Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong!
(I helped save b3ta! Afinkawan Yes I can hear you Clem Fandango, Tue 10 Jul 2007, 11:13, archived)
# Shrink wrapped coconuts.
Morrisons FTW!
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# buy baggier trousers
(I helped save b3ta! The Great Architect is still waiting for his account to be deleted on, Tue 10 Jul 2007, 11:28, archived)
# Badum tish
:D
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# Duly signed.
Gordon'll be quaking in his boots when those 15 signatures hit his desk.
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# :D
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Tue 10 Jul 2007, 11:06, archived)