
family resemblance there, are they by any chance related?
I think we should be told...
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Thu 22 Nov 2007, 12:04,
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I think we should be told...

Has anyone ever seen them in the same place? Maybe they're the same person.
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Thu 22 Nov 2007, 12:05,
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can you not see how Steves shoulder intrudes into the frame of Ians pic?
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Thu 22 Nov 2007, 12:11,
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but I'm not sure where the under-age orgy comes into it. Perhaps because I'm not a priest.
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Thu 22 Nov 2007, 12:09,
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McClaren's job was to make sure England qualified
whereas Blair isn't in charge of making sure people don't get sho--- ah.
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Thu 22 Nov 2007, 12:05,
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whereas Blair isn't in charge of making sure people don't get sho--- ah.

Sir Ian Blair (as far as I know) didn't tell the armed police what tactics to use, he's just the man at the top that signs bits of paper. Whereas McClaren was the one actually telling the team how to play.
I could be wrong though.
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Thu 22 Nov 2007, 12:06,
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I could be wrong though.

Same goes for Alistair Darling in the whole missing CD thing. Just because some junior civil servant saves money by not getting it couriered...
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Thu 22 Nov 2007, 12:08,
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Surely we should be stringing up the twat that thought popping it in a brown envelope with a first class stamp on would work.
We shouldn't be mocking Darling for that, we should be mocking him for his funny name and eyebrow/hair combo!
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Thu 22 Nov 2007, 12:10,
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We shouldn't be mocking Darling for that, we should be mocking him for his funny name and eyebrow/hair combo!

"a secure location"
lest the parents of the United Kingdom find out who they are.
I noticed the Tories calling for Gordon Brown to admit his guilt as well... :/
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Thu 22 Nov 2007, 12:12,
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lest the parents of the United Kingdom find out who they are.
I noticed the Tories calling for Gordon Brown to admit his guilt as well... :/

It's really the IT system and the policies for using it that were to blame; it's obviously not the first time some civil servant didn't follow procedures.
Obviously the bosses there don't care how insecure their systems and policies are, and it's Mr. Darling's job to get them to care. So he failed to do that, and he's therefore culpable.
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Thu 22 Nov 2007, 12:16,
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Obviously the bosses there don't care how insecure their systems and policies are, and it's Mr. Darling's job to get them to care. So he failed to do that, and he's therefore culpable.

My sis used to be a fairly high up civil servant and said she's enver known anything to go missing in the internal mail...
It's all a bit fishy if you ask me. Which you didn't.
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Thu 22 Nov 2007, 12:21,
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It's all a bit fishy if you ask me. Which you didn't.

but they shouldn't need to burn stuff to CD. The issue is, their database is centralised. Obviously they need to share that data with places around the country, but the system has no encrypted data connections anywhere else. So they obviously tend to just email or post the bank accounts of all the people in the country to other places. I'm sure this instance isn't the fist time they've done this; it surely happens all the time because they don't have much choice.
The bosses do know about the insecure system, as does Mr. Darling if he has any competence at his job. So his failure is not to have instigated a drive to improve the security.
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Thu 22 Nov 2007, 12:26,
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The bosses do know about the insecure system, as does Mr. Darling if he has any competence at his job. So his failure is not to have instigated a drive to improve the security.

Unless they don't have one, in which case that's a very serious oversight indeed...
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Thu 22 Nov 2007, 12:29,
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I would be astonished if the procedure specified encryption, trusting instead the courier not to lose/steal it.
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Thu 22 Nov 2007, 12:23,
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someone has to sign for it at the other end, and they can trace who's had the package at any one point...
The REAL cock up is taking several weeks to notice there was something wrong...
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Thu 22 Nov 2007, 12:25,
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The REAL cock up is taking several weeks to notice there was something wrong...